Grendel
Well-Known Member
Yes its gone from 58th to 51st in the League Tables this year -- well done. Almost as impressive as Ron's wage, crime and unemployment statistics.
And the university goes from strength to strength.
A large number? If there are any (and I never see them) it will be in desperate attempt to redress the balance and inject a little common sense against overwhelming odds and overwhelming fanatasism. but thanks.
Don't make me name them all! You know who I mean. They are anything but balanced. If they were balanced, they would sometimes criticise SISU. They don't, until it's pointed out that they never do it-like FP did above and another did last week. I'd love to see them actually be critical of SISU with the vigour that they attack other parties with, but it will never happen because-guess what?-they're totally unbalanced.
"Overwhelming odds and overwhelming fanatasism."? What a total load of wank that comment is!
A large number? If there are any (and I never see them) it will be in a desperate attempt to redress the balance and inject a little common sense against overwhelming odds and overwhelming fanatasism. but thanks.
Just for grendal:
Average Wages:
Coventry
Rank 97 of 390:
Workers have a median annual
gross wage of £22,931
compared to the
UK average of £22,044.
http://www.cityam.com/206242/where-can-you-earn-most-uk-pay-london-much-higher-any-other-part-uk
Unemployment:
Coventry has a rate of 8.1% (which I'll grant you is above the UK average of 7%) but is lower than all other Midlands cities.
http://www.cityam.com/1410951149/how-high-is-unemployment-in-your-area
Crime:
The UK average is 6.57 crimes per 100 residents, Coventry is 4.78 crimes per 100 residents.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/crime-statistics-for-coventry-3217263
Why did you use a link regarding crime to prove my point for me?
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/coventry-named-one-best-student-8173845
Reading the article I'm not really clear from Higgs statement how they are claiming to have been in no way involved in the sale of ACL to Wasps. I would have thought SISU were absolutely right to says Higgs were an interested party in the sale given they owned 50% of ACL.
Don't make me name them all! You know who I mean. They are anything but balanced. If they were balanced, they would sometimes criticise SISU. They don't, until it's pointed out that they never do it-like FP did above and another did last week. I'd love to see them actually be critical of SISU with the vigour that they attack other parties with, but it will never happen because-guess what?-they're totally unbalanced.
"Overwhelming odds and overwhelming fanaticism."? What a total load of wank that comment is!
To quickly name 4 posters, Chiefdave, Duffer, Ashdown and Astute as 4 who have very critical of Sisu but have also been critical recently of CCC. Now the posters who I imagine SBK refers to and we know who we are talking about only ever really batter CCC. As I have said some like to put in the little I hate Sisu caveats but then only ever have a go at the Council. Some of them only really ever pop up when we get the threads about what the Council have or have not done like Godiva or Ian 1779. Also, do we really need people to redress the balance on some of the stunts Sisu have pulled?
Yes its gone from 58th to 51st in the League Tables this year -- well done. Almost as impressive as Ron's wage, crime and unemployment statistics.
I meant to include the engineering part of the university which is ranked 34 and yes, it is something to be proud of. In a world where everyone moans that things are getting worse, should a Coventrian not be proud that something like our Uni is getting better?
To quickly name 4 posters, Chiefdave, Duffer, Ashdown and Astute as 4 who have very critical of Sisu but have also been critical recently of CCC. Now the posters who I imagine SBK refers to and we know who we are talking about only ever really batter CCC. As I have said some like to put in the little I hate Sisu caveats but then only ever have a go at the Council. Some of them only really ever pop up when we get the threads about what the Council have or have not done like Godiva or Ian 1779. Also, do we really need people to redress the balance on some of the stunts Sisu have pulled?
I think balance is always good in a debate, don't you? Otherwise its not a debate, just a lot of people ranting.
I like to sum it up as this.
Sisu - King t*ssers
Seppala - Queen T*sser
Fisher - Bullshit T*sser
Ann Lucas - Chief Council T*sser
Mutton - Secondary Council T*sser
PWKH - Up his own backside t*sser
Bryan Richardson - Started this mess and sold Highfield Road T*sser
Byng - Train spotting t*sser
Elliott/Hoffman - Great pretender t*ssers
Wasps - Franchise T*ssers
We don't get the same from some of the people me and SBK are talking about.
You are more likely to be a victim of robbery, sexual attack, violent attack, vehicle crime -- but hey its low on anti social behaviour - I guess as all the anti social behaviourists are too busy molesting, beating up people robbing them or nicking your car.
The devil is always in the detail. Only one area in Coventry boosts wages to barely above minimum and we all know why that is.
I like to sum it up as this.
Sisu - King t*ssers
Seppala - Queen T*sser
Fisher - Bullshit T*sser
Ann Lucas - Chief Council T*sser
Mutton - Secondary Council T*sser
PWKH - Up his own backside t*sser
Bryan Richardson - Started this mess and sold Highfield Road T*sser
Byng - Train spotting t*sser
Elliott/Hoffman - Great pretender t*ssers
Wasps - Franchise T*ssers
What about Appleton - Smug Picture Pose Tosser
You go right ahead and name them if you like, it won't make you any more right. You don't think those with a more balanced view are massively in the minority? You don't think the '100% SISU to blame' possy are blinded by hatred and cannot be objective? and there's no need to be rude, you'll upset Shmmeee.
Please, for the love of God please, for your on sake don't lump yourself in with SBK
Anyway, given you namechecked Godiva, I actually find their perspective kind of valuable. Sure, is mostly from the SISU perspective, but is always unfailingly polite, and their posts do allow for understanding.
Not sure it's entirely fair to link in with the ranting nonsense certain posters (RFC knows who they are) come up with!
No, I won't name them, it's self-evident. I don't think there is a massive "100% SISU to blame" element on here-on the CT comments, sure. I can't stand the comment "blinded by hatred". You can hate SISU and still be correct when you say that they are by far the most culpable party for the mess that we are in!
Hatred is a perfectly normal human emotion of course, but not one that inspires reason, even handedness, understanding or a good debate.
Please, for the love of God please, for your on sake don't lump yourself in with SBK
Anyway, given you namechecked Godiva, I actually find their perspective kind of valuable. Sure, is mostly from the SISU perspective, but is always unfailingly polite, and their posts do allow for understanding.
Not sure it's entirely fair to link in with the ranting nonsense certain posters (RFC knows who they are) come up with!
but that wouldn't stop me sitting with them and having a beer (yes even RFC, well he does need a good talking to).
What about a passionate reaction to injustice? That's hatred inspired by reason.
So Higgs have said 'There is a new action brought by Sisu against Coventry City Council in which the Trustees have been named as Interested Parties. This is factually incorrect and has no basis at all. We are neither directly nor indirectly involved in the time frame set out nor in the Decision (October 2014) of the City Council with which Sisu take issue.
The Decision concerns the loan from Coventry City Council to Arena Coventry Ltd. When this action was brought the Trustees were no longer anything to do with ACL as they had sold their interest in ACL'.
If this statement is all correct then they would be right not to want to be dragged into the matter, presumably no one has an issue with this.
Don't remember calling them wankers..
When they stepped in to help out the club they got something for their money remember, it's not like they gave the club the money for free.
They chose to decline the club's offer for a 50% share. They chose to sell to Wasps... for less than they were previously offered.
And before you wheel out the conditons line... if we are going to play the 'children's charity' card.. then the offer that got more money was the only one to pick.
And we know that wasn't Wasps.
Sorry to revive this, but I can’t agree and it’s an important point. I genuinely don’t get the repeated claim that SISU offered more than Wasps.
Let’s just suppose for a moment that the judge was completely wrong, and SISU could actually have persuaded the bank to take a £10 million hit on the loan. Even in that pretend world, they fell short of Wasps. Yes, their initial offer in 2012 was more than Wasps ended up paying, but that offer was subsequently drastically reduced, AND it was subject to unacceptable conditions. How can you just wish the latter away?
Following due diligence, SISU did not wish to offer the price set out in the Indicative Term Sheet, being willing to offer only closer to £2m than £5.5m. This difference between the price SISU were prepared to offer and the price the Trustees were prepared to accept was (a) irreconcilable and (b) in itself, a showstopper …
… By the end of August 2012, SISU buying into ACL by purchasing Higgs Charity’s share was simply not an option: SISU were unwilling to pay anywhere near the option price, or anywhere near the price the Trustees would have found acceptable, for the 50% share; nor were they willing to give security for future payments that the Trustees, on advice, would have been willing to accept.
Didn't the sale to Wasps including the loan part happen before Higgs had to offer the 50% share to SISU...
Didn't the sale to Wasps including the loan part happen before Higgs had to offer the 50% share to SISU...
Yes, and I'm all for that. I'm just suggesting that it is hard to have a conversation with someone who is constantly enraged. Yes it may be warranted but it makes people unreasonable. There is far to much ranty shouty shit on here and any challenge is met with a completely black and white Neanderthal anti SISU scream of defiance
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