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Otis

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  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #771
Nick said:
Would be a bit late then.

As liquid gold has said, it's about the showing of the teeth of it.
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I'm not sure you can boycott now when we need a deal from them and if we were to approach them now and threaten to boycott in the future unless they gave us a deal, kind of comes across as blackmail.
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #772
Otis said:
I'm not sure you can boycott now when we need a deal from them and if we were to approach them now and threaten to boycott in the future unless they gave us a deal, kind of comes across as blackmail.
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And?
 

usskyblue

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  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #773
Otis said:
I'm not sure you can boycott now when we need a deal from them and if we were to approach them now and threaten to boycott in the future unless they gave us a deal, kind of comes across as blackmail.
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That’s sorted then m8
 
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usskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #774
Let’s hope it does better than NOPM m8
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #775
Otis said:
I'm not sure you can boycott now when we need a deal from them and if we were to approach them now and threaten to boycott in the future unless they gave us a deal, kind of comes across as blackmail.
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How does what they are doing come across?
 

Otis

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  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #776
What I would like to know, following Specs' post is, how many City fans also attend Wasps.

I think there could be a lot of pressure there if Wasps ST holders, who are also City fans said they would give up going if the Sky Blues are found to be homeless.
 

Otis

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  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #777
Nick said:
How does what they are doing come across?
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Not blackmail.

Wasps need the council onboard I think. They see them as some kind of allies at the moment. I think that is why they are toeing the line they are toeing.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #778
Otis said:
Not blackmail.

Wasps need the council onboard I think. They see them as some kind of allies at the moment. I think that is why they are toeing the line they are toeing.
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So drop the legals against the council and we will do a deal isn't but do a deal else city fans will give you a headache isn't?

That's exactly why wasps and the council piss themselves.
 
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SkyBlueZack

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  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #779
Drop the legals or we won’t do a deal. Do a deal or we won’t buy tickets for your games. How are they different? They are both ultimatums.
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #780
Otis said:
Not blackmail.

Wasps need the council onboard I think. They see them as some kind of allies at the moment. I think that is why they are toeing the line they are toeing.
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Bizarre given the stance on legal action
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #781
Otis said:
What I would like to know, following Specs' post is, how many City fans also attend Wasps.

I think there could be a lot of pressure there if Wasps ST holders, who are also City fans said they would give up going if the Sky Blues are found to be homeless.
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Yeah, when the trust are going to the national media to say how great an event one of their first games was. I can't see it happening.
 

Otis

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  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #782
Nick said:
So drop the legals against the council and we will do a deal isn't but do a deal else city fans will give you a headache isn't?

That's exactly why wasps and the council piss themselves.
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Big difference to my mind, if Wasps are just wanting to keep the council sweet. That is not of their own volition and they would be just taking onboard the advice from elsewhere.

I am of course just guessing their reasoning, but that seems to be the only reasoning possible doesn't it? That the council have advised Wasps not to deal with Sisu whilst the legals are going on.

That's not just Wasps doing so off their own back, that is with pressure from the council, whom they wish to keep onboard.

Quite clear difference to me.

The council and Sisu are the two main players here.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #783
Otis said:
Big difference to my mind, if Wasps are just wanting to keep the council sweet. That is not of their own volition and they would be just taking onboard the advice from elsewhere.

I am of course just guessing their reasoning, but that seems to be the only reasoning possible doesn't it? That the council have advised Wasps not to deal with Sisu whilst the legals are going on.

That's not just Wasps doing so off their own back, that is with pressure from the council, whom they wish to keep onboard.

Quite clear difference to me.

The council and Sisu are the two main players here.
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So wasps are being blackmailed by the council to blackmail us?
 

Otis

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  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #784
SkyBlueZack said:
Drop the legals or we won’t do a deal. Do a deal or we won’t buy tickets for your games. How are they different? They are both ultimatums.
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I am saying one is different, because it is a kind of forced upon them stance.

If there is blackmail it is from the council. If Wasps have development plans they need the council on side.
 

Otis

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  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #785
Nick said:
So wasps are being blackmailed by the council to blackmail us?
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Isn't that what you think? There is no other reason for Wasps stance is there?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #786
Otis said:
I am saying one is different, because it is a kind of forced upon them stance.

If there is blackmail it is from the council. If Wasps have development plans they need the council on side.
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It's forced upon the fans, they want their club to exist.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #787
Otis said:
Isn't that what you think? There is no other reason for Wasps stance is there?
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As the legal row goes on, it probably stops them signing much needed sponsorship contracts.
 

Otis

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  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #788
It's the same with Jon Sharpe isn't it?

Why won't he deal with Sisu?
 

Nick

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  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #789
Deleted member 5849 said:
As the legal row goes on, it probably stops them signing much needed sponsorship contracts.
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In what way? People won't sponsor them because of legal action against the council?
 

Otis

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  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #790
Deleted member 5849 said:
As the legal row goes on, it probably stops them signing much needed sponsorship contracts.
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Yeah, fair point, that.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #791
Otis said:
If we are kicked out it should be full throttle on trying to get people to boycott Wasps games and for us all to protest.
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It should be full throttle boycott anyway. How anybody could have the audacity to whine about SISU but embrace Eastwood and co is beyond me
 
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Otis

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  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #792
Nick said:
In what way? People won't sponsor them because of legal action against the council?
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Because it involves the Ricoh I presume.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #793
Nick said:
In what way? People won't sponsor them because of legal action against the council?
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While there's doubt over what happens with the stadium, would you sign a long-term deal to sponsor it?

I wouldn't!
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #794
Deleted member 5849 said:
While there's doubt over what happens with the stadium, would you sign a long-term deal to sponsor it?

I wouldn't!
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Nope. Same here.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #795
Deleted member 5849 said:
While there's doubt over what happens with the stadium, would you sign a long-term deal to sponsor it?

I wouldn't!
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Surely the only doubt is if we are there or not? That's only the naming rights of it.

Surely they just do a deal based on us not being there and the sponsor gets a bonus if we are.
 

Otis

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  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #796
fernandopartridge said:
It should be full throttle boycott anyway. How anybody could have the audacity to whine about SISU but embrace Eastwood and co is beyond me
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No, I agree. I just cannot see people getting off their backsides and doing so until we are homeless though.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #797
Otis said:
No, I agree. I just cannot see people getting off their backsides and doing so until we are homeless though.
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Which comes back to the point that everybody gets fired up about sisu by the media and fans groups and ignores everybody else.
 

Otis

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  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #798
Nick said:
Which comes back to the point that everybody gets fired up about sisu by the media and fans groups and ignores everybody else.
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Yes, but I do think many believe Wasps hold the cards and don't want to piss them off.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #799
Otis said:
Yes, but I do think many believe Wasps hold the cards and don't want to pass them off.
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Surely even worse to let them and the civil l council do whatever?
 

Otis

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  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #800
Nick said:
Surely even worse to let them and the civil l council do whatever?
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As I keep saying, it's Sisu and the council that need to be the main targets.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #801
Otis said:
As I keep saying, it's Sisu and the council that need to be the main targets.
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Why?

Surely it should be anybody who can either make a decision or influence one?

You leave one out, they can take the piss.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #802
fernandopartridge said:
It should be full throttle boycott anyway. How anybody could have the audacity to whine about SISU but embrace Eastwood and co is beyond me
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Goes two ways .

Funny those shouting about the inbalance are the ones who have done nothing.
Get off your arses organise something we are waiting to join in.
 
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CJ_covblaze

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  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #803
Grendel said:
CJ has already said he is totally opposed to the idea of boycotting Wasps
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To clarify I said I am personally against the idea of telling people how they shouldn’t be spending their money. What gives you, I or anyone else the right to do that? I didn’t go to Sixfields but it angered me that so many had a go at those that wanted to support their team. Is that wrong?
 
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CJ_covblaze

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #804
Specs WT-R75 said:
Can the Trust fund a simple survey of CCFC fans.

Q. Have you attend a Wasps game (Y/N)
Q. If yes, in the event that Wasps do not give CCFC a deal to remain at the Ricoh will you continue to attend any further Wasps games

We need a way to highlight to them the potential damage that they may cause not only ACL due to lack of revenues, but also Wasps due to fans that shun them as a result. Maybe the outcome of such survey would show negligible numbers, however it may help focus Wasps minds on the commercial impact of their decision. Money talks, bullshit walks and all that...

Specs
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I will put this forward and add it to the list that we’ve published
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #805
Luton is a great choice to stage a protest. Tommy Robinson's home town. Gives all his fan boys extra incentive to crack the smoke bombs out, get the yellow vests out and... protest against all sides
 
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