As I said, the issue isn’t the sample size but the sampling method. There’s a good argument that only those that agree with the sites overall position stick around and therefore they are the only ones who see it. The Internet is great a siloing people off into hive minds.
Not attacking it, just steel manning the argument in case it’s raised. It’s worth thinking about how you will respond.
I think you’ve missed my point.
Those that disagree may have written the site off long ago and therefore aren’t here to respond at all.
I think it’s perfectly legitimate to say that forums generally have higher levels of commitment to the subject matter then standard facebook groups. A classic example of this is Piston Heads
So it is more likely the people on this forum will be more committed than casual observers say on twitter and Facebook
so it’s reasonable to say the response is representative of the views of the subscribers who are more likely than not to be committed supporters
Yeah, no. It’s really not reasonable to say that. With the Internet it’s easy to split off as a group of likeminded people and engage with your bubble rather than stick around and argue. For example there are two U.K. Labour subreddits, one for moderates and one for hard core Corbynistas. Both equally committed. There are several online avenues for CCFC discussion FB, here and Twitter for example.
Also the Internet itself is self selecting. Some people simply don’t use it or don’t use it to discuss CCFC.
Again, just raising points to think about. It’s not an attack.
It is legitimate to say that members of forums generally have more commitment to the brand in general. Plenty of research will validate that. Yes we could have asked respondents how many attend games but there is research that says it’s more likely they will or at least have commitment to the product. That’s the point - forum members are more associated than say Facebook groups who will be more transient
obviously there’s not 7,500 members but there is not 2,700 trust members either as the vast majority will have lapsED
Tweeted Dublin and Huckerby because of their links to Coventry and now the mainstream media.
Irked me abit when someone immediatly said 7500 and the % that voted. Essentially though, it's the message that is important and that even a sample size of 370 or whatever - the vast majority agree. It's a reasonable assumption that the vast majority of others, away from the forum agree as well.
No please do I had many slight amendments suggested and take great comfort that the trust comments were so balanced compared to what they could have said and just this morning I stopped myself from asking simon why no one questioned their statement of 2700 member when they hadn’t asked any of them whether they agreed. Really need to try and unite everyone we can and that includes listening to different points of view and acknowledging that we have many different opinions on the past. Just cause we are urging wasps to remove the need it doesn’t l mean we think Sisu have managed this situation well and just cause the trust Seem biased at the moment it doesn’t mean that we aren’t grateful for the March that was organised when in Northampton or the q and a with key stakeholders for supporters to talk toYeah, no. It’s really not reasonable to say that. With the Internet it’s easy to split off as a group of likeminded people and engage with your bubble rather than stick around and argue. For example there are two U.K. Labour subreddits, one for moderates and one for hard core Corbynistas. Both equally committed. There are several online avenues for CCFC discussion FB, here and Twitter for example.
Also the Internet itself is self selecting. Some people simply don’t use it or don’t use it to discuss CCFC.
Again, just raising points to think about. It’s not an attack. Feel free to ignore me if you’re happy they won’t be raised.
No please do I had many slight amendments suggested and take great comfort that the trust comments were so balanced compared to what they could have said and just this morning I stopped myself from asking simon why no one questioned their statement of 2700 member when they hadn’t asked any of them whether they agreed. Really need to try and unite everyone we can and that includes listening to different points of view and acknowledging that we have many different opinions on the past. Just cause we are urging wasps to remove the need it doesn’t l mean we think Sisu have managed this situation well and just cause the trust Seem biased at the moment it doesn’t mean that we aren’t grateful for the March that was organised when in Northampton or the q and a with key stakeholders for supporters to talk to
Tweeted Dublin and Huckerby because of their links to Coventry and now the mainstream media.
I tried David Meyler as well. Not with us for long but still an ex-player who seems to have his head screwed on with a 200k followingThey're quite active on there, also Whelan + Froggatt
Well written by at least 30 individualsThis is important! Just because people dont agree it doesn't mean we shouldnt engage with them and listen...this is what we were crying out for ourselves. The important things to remember are that, ultimately, we all want the same thing so we need to respect each other here and on other platforms. If we start mud slinging and get silly we'll lose credibility.
Fair, reasonable and inclusive - just like the statement written by Pete.
They're quite active on there, also Whelan + Froggatt
I tried David Meyler as well. Not with us for long but still an ex-player who seems to have his head screwed on with a 200k following
This is important! Just because people dont agree it doesn't mean we shouldnt engage with them and listen...this is what we were crying out for ourselves. The important things to remember are that, ultimately, we all want the same thing so we need to respect each other here and on other platforms. If we start mud slinging and get silly we'll lose credibility.
Fair, reasonable and inclusive - just like the statement written by Pete.
If people disagree then of course it's about asking them what they disagree about and why.
I see some guy questioned the response rate and membership I’ve tried to answer it
If people disagree then of course it's about asking them what they disagree about and why.
Have you got a link?
Agree re Meyler, definitely more in hope than anything but hopefully he'll see it as a wider issue. Hadn't considered the vlogger angle, that's a good shout. Hopefully this scattergun approach by us all gets us somewhere!Yeah, I've gone after a lot of ex players. Bobby Gould I'm confident will share.
Wouldn't hold out much hope for Meyler. Some of the grief some of our 'fans' gave him after Willis left to join Sunderland was unreal.
I've been tweeting people like that Thogden and his Dad as well...massive followings so hopefully they can help us.
Sure but we just need to be reasonable with it. Not always the case when the topics in question are being debated.
Wasn't someone threatening Grendel and saying he knew where he lived?
Will be interesting to see if any of that comes about due to this statement. If it does then we can be sure that feathers are well and truly ruffled.
Bit of a curveball, has anyone thought about tweeting local MP's? Not living locally I wouldn't know who they are but it might be another avenue.
Has anybody spoken to Richard Keys?
On a serious note, what about Graeme Hawley?
What was your reply Grendel on the numbers issue
simon Gilbert accepted the numbers too
frankly 370 replies in a few days is pretty impressive
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