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[dongonzalos]

So spending £18,000 a week on a striker in the championship who cost £5 million wasn't supporting the manager?

I can't remember who we sold the season before other than Keane but his replacement cost £6 million and was an instant hit the following season.

He bacane obsinate and ran out of ideas. Anyway it was obvious the team were floundering so he should have been sacked regardless of circumstance.

Sorry you can't argue with Mick Gynn its against the rules

 

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[shmmeee]

Not sacking a manager early after going down?

So you'd have kept strachan?

There at his final game were you? The board wouldn't have got out the next game alive if he had been in charge.

Dammit! I said I didn't want to summon Grendel!

I didn't want to bring Thorn in as I think info that's known now shows the guy needed to go. But I stick by my point that in general the first few months down are a bad time to make long term judgements. Everyone is acclimatising, not just the manager.

 

[shmmeee]

Can I just say thanks to everyone for keeping on topic and giving me a bit of an insight into what fan feeling was like. Seems that maybe from the outside Strachan seemed like he was worth a chance, but the climate wouldn't have allowed him to stay even if we wanted to and perhaps circumstance allowed Strachan to be seen as better than he was. Is that right?

 

[torchomatic]

I think there was certainly an air of "...but it's Gordon Strachan!" about his time here. I know we'd had Neal and Butcher by then but he was the first big "name" footballer to have anything to do with us, so I think some held him in awe a little. For me he was too inflexible and rigid in his approach. Ultimately he cost us our place in the Premiership. Really, with the squad and resources he had at his disposal we should never have struggled like he did. I mean, how much money did he pump into the Honduran economy!?

Can I just say thanks to everyone for keeping on topic and giving me a bit of an insight into what fan feeling was like. Seems that maybe from the outside Strachan seemed like he was worth a chance, but the climate wouldn't have allowed him to stay even if we wanted to and perhaps circumstance allowed Strachan to be seen as better than he was. Is that right?

 

[dongonzalos]

Dammit! I said I didn't want to summon Grendel!

I didn't want to bring Thorn in as I think info that's known now shows the guy needed to go. But I stick by my point that in general the first few months down are a bad time to make long term judgements. Everyone is acclimatising, not just the manager.

Thing is whoever the manager is they have had the summer to shape the plans for the season.

Then after a very short period of time a new manager comes in. Changing dynamics relationships, playing styles training methods. Coaching staff and possibly playing staff. Potentially what happened in the summer goes down the pan and you are starting again.

I prefer a bit of consistency myself do your sackings at the end of the season or if you must just before the January transfer window

 

[dongonzalos]

I think there was certainly an air of "...but it's Gordon Strachan!" about his time here. I know we'd had Neal and Butcher by then but he was the first big "name" footballer to have anything to do with us, so I think some held him in awe a little. For me he was too inflexible and rigid in his approach. Ultimately he cost us our place in the Premiership. Really, with the squad and resources he had at his disposal we should never have struggled like he did. I mean, how much money did he pump into the Honduran economy!?

The Hondurans certainly was a strange one

 

[torchomatic]

True, which is why he should have gone either before relegation or in the dressing room at Villa Park. Unfortunately, Richardson didn't have the balls.

Dammit! I said I didn't want to summon Grendel!

I didn't want to bring Thorn in as I think info that's known now shows the guy needed to go. But I stick by my point that in general the first few months down are a bad time to make long term judgements. Everyone is acclimatising, not just the manager.

 

[Godiva]

The Hondurans certainly was a strange one

Weren't they forced upon him?
Could it have something to do with the original purpose of ccfc limited ... third party player ownership?

 

[torchomatic]

Mmm...that rings a bell. I try to blot the Richardson Years from my mind though.

Weren't they forced upon him?
Could it have something to do with the original purpose of ccfc limited ... third party player ownership?

 

[SkyBlueSid]

We were relegated from the Premier League with a team that should have been comfortably mid-table. But in that season Strachan never got the best out of them, whether it was poor team selection, poor tactics, stubbornly refusing to change anything, or trying to show the fans he knew what he was doing. By the end of the season he had lost it completely and we went down with barely a whimper. What a contrast with previous relegation battles!

The time to sack Strachan was after the Everton debacle when we were 0-3 down to a scratch team in half an hour. It was obvious then that he had lost the players and the plot. A new manager then could have ensured survival. Yes, we were in debt, but that is about when the real gravy-train started so history could have been very different with the income it would have generated. Relegation was an absolute disaster for which we are still suffering, but it was very preventable.

 

[dongonzalos]

Weren't they forced upon him?
Could it have something to do with the original purpose of ccfc limited ... third party player ownership?

Sounds murky

 

[henry the wasp]

The honduran economy made fuck all. I'm quite sure Rene Houseman made a few quid though. Whatever happened to Walter Zevallos? He had a squad number.
All very strange the south american thing.

 

[Davs]

Strachan is, in my opinion an appalling manager, nit just at Cov, but everywhere he has been. The only thing about him managing Scotland is that he cannot make them worse.

There is not a single team/club that has been in a better state after his tenure than they were before he came.

I remember him being unwilling or unable to make substitutions, keeping Magnus on the pitch after he had knocked himself out and clearly had no idea which City he was in, let alone which ground.

This is just one of a list of crackpot decisions that he made, like playing people out of position, telling the fans that it was their fault we were struggling.

The list goes on.

 

[Grendel]

Weren't they forced upon him?
Could it have something to do with the original purpose of ccfc limited ... third party player ownership?

The Hondurans and Zuniga were signed by Richardson. Strachan actually said Richardson went to South America rang him and told him I've signed this goalscorer from South America.

There was also i think investigation conducted as we were paying an Eastern European scout who claimed he'd never heard of the club. I'm sure that was a story unearthed by Patrick Collins. You have to question a lot of the signings -Moldovan, Evotshuk, Normann, Johannson etc. most hardly ever played.

 

[Godiva]

The Hondurans and Zuniga were signed by Richardson. Strachan actually said Richardson went to South America rang him and told him I've signed this goalscorer from South America.

There was also i think investigation conducted as we were paying an Eastern European scout who claimed he'd never heard of the club. I'm sure that was a story unearthed by Patrick Collins. You have to question a lot of the signings -Moldovan, Evotshuk, Normann, Johannson etc. most hardly ever played.

I have to admit I liked Moldovan and even thought Zuniga could be great.
Mind you - we could use both on Sunday!

 

[The Gentleman]

The Hondurans and Zuniga were signed by Richardson. Strachan actually said Richardson went to South America rang him and told him I've signed this goalscorer from South America.

There was also i think investigation conducted as we were paying an Eastern European scout who claimed he'd never heard of the club. I'm sure that was a story unearthed by Patrick Collins. You have to question a lot of the signings -Moldovan, Evotshuk, Normann, Johannson etc. most hardly ever played.

Ray Clarke was involved with a few signings around that time, spent time in Europe and South America.