Ann Lucas (2 Viewers)

ccfc1234 · Feb 4, 2015

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11434464

read the hollow all about me words of the woman who sold our clubs ground to a sporting franchise. If this is not the definition of disingenuous I am not sure what is. People who vote for her political grandstanding and moral high ground games deserve what they get; a shoddy councillor who values her PR in the public eye as priority number 1.

I personally don't think sport and politics mix well but it seems Ann has no trouble using us to try and raise her national do gooder profile, so I hope CCFC fans respond in kind at the ballot box. Even if you don't vote normally get down there as It would be superb to see her face when she realises she has messed with the heritage of thousands of people from a city proud to be sky blue.

lordsummerisle · Feb 4, 2015

One of the things that I agree with her wholeheartedly about.

ccfc1234 · Feb 4, 2015

lordsummerisle said:
One of the things that I agree with her wholeheartedly about.

Your missing the point!!! It's the way she talks about her love for the club etc I am highlighting not the MK issue.

lordsummerisle · Feb 4, 2015

ccfc1234 said:
Your missing the point!!! It's the way she talks about her love for the club etc I am highlighting not the MK issue.

Do get what you mean, it's like most of the ones who called her a publicity seeking slag when she quite rightly wasn't happy about King, now think she's some sort of hero for selling the Ricoh to Wasps.

skybluetony176 · Feb 4, 2015

Some peoples obsession with outside influences is so ridiculous that they're dragging out year's old statement's about something she was right about in a very poor attempt to discredit her.

And I'm supposed to be the hysterical shouty one.

Sky Blue Pete · Feb 4, 2015

Her number 1 passion is for the city of coventry and its people

Mary_Mungo_Midge · Feb 4, 2015

ccfc1234 said:
Your missing the point!!! It's the way she talks about her love for the club etc I am highlighting not the MK issue.

I'll tell you what's disingenuous. All the people on here who now finally acknowledge and laugh at Fishers seeming inability to tell the truth, or stick to any coherent policy; yet harshly judge the council and its officers for not being able to cut a deal with him. He's building a new stadium, remember?

AndreasB · Feb 4, 2015

Sky Blue Pete said:
Her number 1 passion is for the city of coventry and its people

We are indeed lucky to have her.

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Moff · Feb 4, 2015

Sky Blue Pete said:
Her number 1 passion is for the city of coventry and its people

Sorry I think that a bag of crap. Anyone that attends a new conference and simpers that it isnt all about her and implies that the previous days discussions were, in relation to the sale of the Ricoh, has her head significantly up her own arse.

Sky Blue Pete · Feb 4, 2015

That's cool and you are absolutely entitled to that opibion that's what living in a democracy abd freedom of expression is all about

Moff · Feb 4, 2015

Sky Blue Pete said:
That's cool and you are absolutely entitled to that opibion that's what living in a democracy abd freedom of expression is all about

I totally agree on that point. Thank you for the reasoned response!

Sky Blue Dal · Feb 4, 2015

Sky Blue Pete said:
Her number 1 passion is for the city of coventry and its people

Now don't get carried away!

torchomatic · Feb 4, 2015

Christ, some of your posts on the two Lucas threads are absolutely nauseating. Reign it in a little before I'm sick!

Sky Blue Pete said:
Her number 1 passion is for the city of coventry and its people

torchomatic · Feb 4, 2015

I agree actually. Doesn't stop people from saying "three weeks" and "batter people in court" despite SISU losing all theirs recently, does it.

I am really surprised, considering SBT is one of the last bastions of truth and morality that people don't want to know the full story behind the loan, value of ACL, sale to Wasps, etc. After all despite anyone who mentions it being told "yeah, but what about SISU" - which again I don't disagree with - if anyone should be whiter than white and open and transparent it's the council and its officers.

I don't think it's a bad thing for the Observer to ask questions, though Reid isn't helping himself with the style.

There is certainly an attitude of ignoring any possible wrongdoing by the Council and I really don't understand why. After all, we all support CCFC don't we, not the Council, or SISU. We just want what's right for our Club and if that means highlighting mistakes or underhand tactics on either side then we should know about them.

skybluetony176 said:
Some peoples obsession with outside influences is so ridiculous that they're dragging out year's old statement's about something she was right about in a very poor attempt to discredit her.

And I'm supposed to be the hysterical shouty one.

Sky Blue Pete · Feb 4, 2015

Sorry torch!

I just feel strongly about those who volunteer for the greater good.

I will stop now. I would love to know the full story but i trust ann more than Tim or joy and that enables conclusions to be drawn

JimmyHillsbeard · Feb 4, 2015

lordsummerisle said:
One of the things that I agree with her wholeheartedly about.

Yep I thought she was right about King, and I was depressed by the club's pursuit of, and employment of, him on the basis that he'd be a good player for us. Over on GMK this created a pretty major squabble - I seem to recall Capt M, me and you being in the minority.

To be fair to her (in this instance) I suspect that *this* is the reason she now described herself to Shane O'Connor the other week as someone who "used to be a fan" the Football Club.

torchomatic · Feb 4, 2015

Fair enough, but they get a nice reward to for "the greater good". £34K in Ann's case.

Sky Blue Pete said:
Sorry torch!

I just feel strongly about those who volunteer for the greater good.

I will stop now. I would love to know the full story but i trust ann more than Tim or joy and that enables conclusions to be drawn

Sky Blue Pete · Feb 4, 2015

I saw that and was surprised. I need to research what that means practically and will stop referring to it as a non renunerated position

italiahorse · Feb 4, 2015

torchomatic said:
I agree actually. Doesn't stop people from saying "three weeks" and "batter people in court" despite SISU losing all theirs recently, does it.

I am really surprised, considering SBT is one of the last bastions of truth and morality that people don't want to know the full story behind the loan, value of ACL, sale to Wasps, etc. After all despite anyone who mentions it being told "yeah, but what about SISU" - which again I don't disagree with - if anyone should be whiter than white and open and transparent it's the council and its officers.

I don't think it's a bad thing for the Observer to ask questions, though Reid isn't helping himself with the style.

There is certainly an attitude of ignoring any possible wrongdoing by the Council and I really don't understand why. After all, we all support CCFC don't we, not the Council, or SISU. We just want what's right for our Club and if that means highlighting mistakes or underhand tactics on either side then we should know about them.

It's easy, why waste money.
Sisu thought nobody else could use the stadium and moved CCFC to Northampton and waited for ACL to fold and take over the freehold at the expense of CCC ratepayers.
Sisu upped the stakes by saying they are building a new stadium and CCC matched the stakes by saying that ACL was doing okay.
The lack of tenant lowered the value of ACL from £12M down to £6M as noted in the JR.
Wasps offered that figure and due to Sisu history with CCC and the talk of a new stadium the same deal was not offered to them.
The alternative of not excepting the Wasps offer and waiting for Sisu to complete the JR and forget the new stadium was a huge risk that CCC would be fools to take.

A small amount of fans are hoping that Sisu win the JR or perhaps some local Council review in the hope that the loan is withdrawn, Wasps have to refinance and then fall over.

LB87ccfc · Feb 4, 2015

Unsure why many on here are up in arms about her winning an award, after all I was the first on here during our ridiculous move to Northampton that the council would end up playing a major part in the Ricoh row and fuck us over, and no one gave a fuck then, so why is everyone up in arms now.

italiahorse · Feb 4, 2015

LB87ccfc said:
Unsure why many on here are up in arms about her winning an award, after all I was the first on here during our ridiculous move to Northampton that the council would end up playing a major part in the Ricoh row and fuck us over, and no one gave a fuck then, so why is everyone up in arms now.

As a matter of interest what should the council have done ?

hill83 · Feb 4, 2015

Sky Blue Pete said:
Sorry torch!

I just feel strongly about those who volunteer for the greater good.

I will stop now. I would love to know the full story but i trust ann more than Tim or joy and that enables conclusions to be drawn

"Volunteer"

Fucking hell.

Edit: Just seen your other post. I'm still reserving the right to laugh at you though.

Haigha · Feb 4, 2015

Councillors aren't 'volunteers', they get paid 'allowances' by Coventry City Council.

The council have to publish details of the 'allowances' Councillors are paid - details for the Tax Year 2013-14 can be found here: http://www.coventry.gov.uk/downloads/file/13719/members_allowances_2013_-_2014

Ann Lucas got £34,794.58 and Philip Townshend got £29,705.19

Mary_Mungo_Midge · Feb 4, 2015

Haigha said:
Councillors aren't 'volunteers', they get paid 'allowances' by Coventry City Council.

The council have to publish details of the 'allowances' Councillors are paid - details for the Tax Year 2013-14 can be found here: http://www.coventry.gov.uk/downloads/file/13719/members_allowances_2013_-_2014

Ann Lucas got £34,794.58 and Philip Townshend got £29,705.19

Ah. But they volunteer to be paid, you see. Ahem...

Haigha · Feb 4, 2015

Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
Ah. But they volunteer to be paid, you see. Ahem...

They put themselves forward for election in the knowledge that if successful they will be paid 'allowances', which is a bit different to 'volunteering' isn't it?

Ashdown · Feb 4, 2015

What did she say at the press conference with Wasps ' Yesterday was my day' in referring to the sale ?! She may have convinced herself it was the right thing to do but my word did she enjoy taking the 'credit' !

hutch1972 · Feb 4, 2015

Ashdown said:
What did she say at the press conference with Wasps ' Yesterday was my day' in referring to the sale ?! She may have convinced herself it was the right thing to do but my word did she enjoy taking the 'credit' !

And hopefully she will take what's due to her when it all goes tits up.

hill83 · Feb 4, 2015

Haigha said:
They put themselves forward for election in the knowledge that if successful they will be paid 'allowances', which is a bit different to 'volunteering' isn't it?

covcity4life · Feb 4, 2015

nick why dont you just ban the council clowns? they never talk about football.

Sky Blue Pete · Feb 4, 2015

Don't be daft everyone on the thread comments on football all the time

covmark · Feb 4, 2015

covcity4life said:
nick why dont you just ban the council clowns? they never talk about football.

Well if we're nominating people to ban. I nominate you for posting constant shite.

covcity4life · Feb 4, 2015

covmark said:
Well if we're nominating people to ban. I nominate you for posting constant shite.

you dont get to nominate biatch

Brighton Sky Blue · Feb 4, 2015

italiahorse said:
As a matter of interest what should the council have done ?

Offer the same deal to the club on the same terms.

italiahorse · Feb 4, 2015

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Offer the same deal to the club on the same terms.

I thought they did but Sisu put in conditions so it got rejected.
Also Sisu did not want to take on the loan according to TF.

Do you know why the value was so low when Wasps bought it ?

The Gentleman · Feb 4, 2015

covcity4life said:
you dont get to nominate biatch

I wish he did though

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