Although, after this positive spin on events, Thorn was soon told that it was October, and that no new players could be brought in. He then took fisher by the throat, and everyone cheered.Thorn continued: 'Tim's still assured me that he is doing all he can to get the embargo lifted and finally I'll be able to wheel and deal for the players we need to get us out of this dogfight. As soon as it's lifted, bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang, we'll be firing our way up the table.'
As above grendel, if we lose the players I think we will. If we then only get 0 to 4 replacements I expect to get relegated. Then it becomes very hard to judge.
If it looks to me like the team then are not trying. If he repeatedly has better players on the bench than those on the pitch. That's probably about the only time, in those circumstances I could. Or if you start hearing loads of murmurings of discontent from the changing room
I think that change would then be carsley. Which would be the ruin of another young English manager. IMO. Just think in the current business plan. Until you hit league 2, which is where are youngsters may shine you are on a hiding to nothing as a manager.
Unless SISU surprise and invest money in a new manager instead of promoting from within.
Are you sure you are nit a bloke called KDuffy in disguise
Ha ha, no, no new message. Really is this you! Or are you winding me up. Thats very funny. I genuinely had no idea
Ha ha, thought u had been a bit quite recently. I have to use the phone a lot which is a pain. The predictive text is a nightmare.
Hope you get it sorted.
I thought your son had come on here. I was struggling to comprehend that someone else could possibly have such outlandish views
Expect he had the lowest budget of any of the Premiership sides last season, though Lambert may have ran him close.
According to MMM, budget is all though, if you have a bottom three budget, then it doesn't matter who you are, you will finish in the bottom three.
Plenty of teams disprove that.
No. You obviously don't read. Let's try again.
There is, across sport, a huge correlation between investment and performance. Some teams buck the trend, but they're exceptions. There may be 'plenty' although you're stretching it to use that particular word. There are some. I agree with that.
My point is whether you, or anyone else has the right to expect someone to over perform; and judge them poorly if they can't do the exceptional.
My view is that you can't.
It's the same point I've made a hundred times, but I'd you're still struggling I'll happily draw pictures
But what is the relevance of context?
At what point does context become irrelevant and the view is we need a change of manager to see if it makes a difference? You cannot for certain say that a new manager would not have made a difference no one can
Remember when Norwich got relegated and lost their first game 7 or 8-1. :laugh:
So in your view if the budget was deemed not likely to achieve good performance you would stick with the same manager until that changed - even if it was a decade - regardless of what the league position of the club was. 10 relegations later you still would not want a change?
The relevance of context is to understand if that if our peers have bigger squads of better players, they're ever liable to do better than us. That's to understand our context without our contemporaries.
So you advocate changing managers to see if it makes a difference. Might we not be better served by giving our existing manager at least a mid-table budget and line up, and seeing of he does better or worse than mid-table? Then we'll know of he's good or bad before throwing yet another onto the scrap heap. I think we're tried that one before, and it's led us to a spiral of ever-diminishing returns. Still, great idea. No, really...
That's no more a crazed notion than ridding yourself of a manager who's never had the resources to prove himself or not.
That's like hiring a brickie, only giving his potatoes to build with and then sacking him when your wall falls over
Except the brickie in question isn't one at all is he? He's not even a hod carrier.
I think you'll find he is now
Oh yes got his badges - wonderful I am sure that will make all the difference. I don't care what quality bricks AT has got I wouldn't want him to build my house I'd feel safer in a tent put up in the middle of the M6.
Is kduffy now Grendel?
I'm happy to help you with that move....
No. You obviously don't read. Let's try again.
There is, across sport, a huge correlation between investment and performance. Some teams buck the trend, but they're exceptions. There may be 'plenty' although you're stretching it to use that particular word. There are some. I agree with that.
My point is whether you, or anyone else has the right to expect someone to over perform; and judge them poorly if they can't do the exceptional.
My view is that you can't.
It's the same point I've made a hundred times, but I'd you're still struggling I'll happily draw pictures
But what is your point? Once or a hundred times still difficult to see that it is anythiung more than:
Budget = Success
Whoever has the most money will win, the least will lose, and managers are irrelevant.
It is valid though, which explains why Leicester and West Ham walked away with the Championship last season, and why Swansea and Norwich are back down, after Newcastle narrowly avoided the drop.
Do you have some crayons handy?
Look at the top two divisions; no, make that most divisions in Europe The teams who spend the most succeed. There are exceptions in both directions, but it's about 15% of the league. Which is why they're known as exceptions. Following so far?
But you don't have the right to expect an exception. Statistically, it'll be every one in 7 or 8 managers. Exceptions. Exceptional. You have no right to rule someone as poor f they're not exceptional
So if our budget is reasonable in League One terms, then any success will not be due to Thorn, but to Sisu?
Can see that line going down well on here.
Yes and it's no wind up. I have been unable to properly access for a week except by phone. I think I know why and what to do but can't look at it until Thursday. I can't keep using the phone so had to change e mail address and therefore user name. Wasn't trying to trick you - thought the sisu dollar comment would have give it away.
what kind of phone do you use? You managed to "like" a post yesterday. I have two phones and can't do that. Am on here on my phone whilst at work half of the time so could do with a phone like you have
what kind of phone do you use? You managed to "like" a post yesterday. I have two phones and can't do that. Am on here on my phone whilst at work half of the time so could do with a phone like you have
Like under my other ID?
Yes..........
Odd I thought I last used Sunday. I can use it but it creates some issues with my work firewall and have to keep switching it on and off. Do you know if you can change a user ID's e-mail account - it is that that is the problem - I need to use a private account.
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