Another Stabbing last night (2 Viewers)

[clint van damme]

I don't want to glorify violence. My life was years of fighting and violence, 4 prison sentences for violence. In and out of prison, do you want to have a fight ? I would take you on. I got beat up ended in hospital, come out and do it again. What gets me is people getting aggressive online and on social media, but do they know what violence means ?

fucking hell B, I knew you'd served time but I didn't realise you had 4 sentences.
Your customers windows must have been fucking filthy by the time you got out.

 

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[clint van damme]

Not with my tried and tested technique.

DM on way

 

[bringbackrattles]

I had a drink recently with a hard lad in Coventry and we both done time in Stafford prison together. He is now a reformed character as we both are. He would fight anybody but now he walks away. Fuck all about age but common sense.

 

[bringbackrattles]

fucking hell B, I knew you'd served time but I didn't realise you had 4 sentences.
Your customers windows must have been fucking filthy by the time you got out.

First sentence aged 20 last one 40. 25 years out. Not proud at all in fact ashamed, but I know about violence. Mixed with some hard people but does anybody on here really know about violence ?

 

[clint van damme]

First sentence aged 20 last one 40. 25 years out. Not proud at all in fact ashamed, but I know about violence. Mixed with some hard people but does anybody on here really know about violence ?

40?! fucking hell mate, that's brutal. Had a few fights myself but nothing that serious, handbags really.
A few of my mates have served time for violence but mostly when they were younger. It took you a long time to learn your lesson mate but at least you're on the straight and narrow now and enjoying life, good for you mate.
Lets hope you've got a promotion to celebrate at the end of the season.

 

[Otis]

fucking hell B, I knew you'd served time but I didn't realise you had 4 sentences.
Your customers windows must have been fucking filthy by the time you got out.

4 sentences is more than CC4L can manage.

 

[Otis]

DM on way

I love em and went to the cinema to see their new movie last Thursday.

Always been a big fan.

 

[clint van damme]

I love em and went to the cinema to see their new movie last Thursday.

Always been a big fan.

you're going to have to explain that one to me mate!

 

[bringbackrattles]

You’ve mentioned that on here before and from when we used to see you before games for a beer etc I had no idea. Bit of a shock when you mentioned it as you don’t come across like that at all anymore.

Last sentence I did 2 years. A screw who knew me in Ranby Nick in Nottingham said see you again. I said you will never see me again. I was that bad a prisoner in there he thought I was a regular. But I am a ex con who shows you can change.

 

[bringbackrattles]

Saturday nights in Stafford prison. Cov lads, Stoke lads, Forest and Grimsby lads.
You think it's aggressive now, they let us out all together on association . One mass punch up. People on here don't know anything !

 

[clint van damme]

Saturday nights in Stafford prison. Cov lads, Stoke lads, Forest and Grimsby lads.
You think it's aggressive now, they let us out all together on association . One mass punch up. People on here don't know anything !

you're well out of it mate.
Time to chill out and put some tunes on.

 

[bringbackrattles]

you're well out of it mate.
Time to chill out and put some tunes on.

I just want to say people can change. 3 years ago I went to a psychology session at Walsgrave Hospital, and I was the main person they talked about. I sat there with all these educated people talking about me. I sat there sweaty and nervous, and they all said after an hour I was a miracle and someone who will get better etc.

 

[chiefdave]

Meanwhile, in Birmingham
Cinema on lockdown after gang with machetes brawl | Metro News

 

[bringbackrattles]

I just want to say does anybody on here really know about violence ? It's okay talking about it online, but have you been involved in it ?

 

[Otis]

you're going to have to explain that one to me mate!

Reach out, touch faith.

 

[Otis]

I just want to say does anybody on here really know about violence ? It's okay talking about it online, but have you been involved in it ?

Nope, never.

 

[Macca]

Meanwhile, in Birmingham
Cinema on lockdown after gang with machetes brawl | Metro News

Ah Star City the Westfield Centre of Birmingham. How long can we keep throwing old fashioned coppers into these situations like lambs to the slaughter? Walk around with a machete you should expect the risk of a bullet in the head. Times have changed

 

[Otis]

Ah Star City the Westfield Centre of Birmingham. How long can we keep throwing old fashioned coppers into these situations like lambs to the slaughter? Walk around with a machete you should expect the risk of a bullet in the head. Times have changed

I certainly think tasers should be more readily deployed.

 

[The coventrian]

Meanwhile, in Birmingham
Cinema on lockdown after gang with machetes brawl | Metro News

I wonder what the common denominator is I wonder? What a great liberal shitfest our country has become.

 

[stupot07]

I wonder what the common denominator is I wonder?

10 years of austerity.

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[itsabuzzard]

that's what you told your family, my money's on a wanking injury.

You'd have to be going it some to break your hand!

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[covcity4life]

Disgusting scenes at star city

Peolle will bring up race but for me its no different to if it was white chav gang tooled up. These kids r like feral animals and their parents need to be held accountable

Need harsh sentences. Dnt give a fuck abiut rehabilitation. First off need to scare ithers feom doing it. The early prisoners will have to pay the price

 

[The coventrian]

10 years of austerity.

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Yes of course it all. Let's blame everything on the conservative party.

 

[clint van damme]

Yes of course it all. Let's blame everything on the conservative party.

Are you suggesting cutting the police by 20000 isn't a factor in the rise in crime?

If that's the case why bother with the current recruitment drive?

 

[stupot07]

Are you suggesting cutting the police by 20000 isn't a factor in the rise in crime?

If that's the case why bother with the current recruitment drive?

Cutting police,
Cutting youth provision
Cutting youth offending service provision in particular the preventative work
Cutting court time
Wrecking the probation service
Cutting education budgets - decrease in pastoral care and lack of specialised / alternative education for those that need it.
Lack of access to mental health services - huge waiting lists for diagnosis of things like Autism, ADHD, etc.
Increasing child poverty
Cutting of early intervention services
Universal credit
Pushing to make both parents work - latch door kids.
Brexit and the general attitude towards minorities since then.


I could go on and on, but it all has a huge impact on society and young people living in poverty feeling marginalised and getting into trouble.


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[The coventrian]

Cutting police,
Cutting youth provision
Cutting youth offending service provision in particular the preventative work
Cutting court time
Wrecking the probation service
Cutting education budgets - decrease in pastoral care and lack of specialised / alternative education for those that need it.
Lack of access to mental health services - huge waiting lists for diagnosis of things like Autism, ADHD, etc.
Increasing child poverty
Cutting of early intervention services
Universal credit
Pushing to make both parents work - latch door kids.
Brexit and the general attitude towards minorities since then.


I could go on and on, but it all has a huge impact on society and young people living in poverty feeling marginalised and getting into trouble.


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Yes that's all well and good saying all that but at what point should people start taking responsibility for their own actions? Going to a cinema mob handed with machetes? You think this is all down to cuts in services? Really? More like a total lack of respect for anyone and anything. These arsewipes would still do the same regardless of police cuts or not.
Feral dragged up scum that need eliminating from society.
The problem we also have these days is to many do gooders making excuses for them. Carrying a knife should be a minimum of 10 years in prison imo.
And don't these cuts affect everybody? Funnily enough when I finish work at 2 today I've no plans to put a tracksuit and hoody on and go tooled up with a machete up town.

 

[covcity4life]

Yes that's all well and good saying all that but at what point should people start taking responsibility for their own actions? Going to a cinema mob handed with machetes? You think this is all down to cuts in services? Really? More like a total lack of respect for anyone and anything. These arsewipes would still do the same regardless of police cuts or not.
Feral dragged up scum that need eliminating from society.
The problem we also have these days is to many do gooders making excuses for them. Carrying a knife should be a minimum of 10 years in prison imo.
And don't these cuts affect everybody? Funnily enough when I finish work at 2 today I've no plans to put a tracksuit and hoody on and go tooled up with a machete up town.

I agree

But do u agree thr scum like this isnt exclusive to immigrants?

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

Cutting police,
Cutting youth provision
Cutting youth offending service provision in particular the preventative work
Cutting court time
Wrecking the probation service
Cutting education budgets - decrease in pastoral care and lack of specialised / alternative education for those that need it.
Lack of access to mental health services - huge waiting lists for diagnosis of things like Autism, ADHD, etc.
Increasing child poverty
Cutting of early intervention services
Universal credit
Pushing to make both parents work - latch door kids.
Brexit and the general attitude towards minorities since then.


I could go on and on, but it all has a huge impact on society and young people living in poverty feeling marginalised and getting into trouble.


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Yeah, but APART from that ...!

 

[The coventrian]

Of course I do. I'd actually argue the point that the immigrants aren't actually responsible for the large percentage of crime that they're blamed for.
A lot of this is a home grown problem. Young out of control gangster wannabes with no respect for anyone and anything. Imo a lot of this could be nipped in the bud from the home.

 

[The coventrian]

I agree

But do u agree thr scum like this isnt exclusive to immigrants?

My last reply was to you.

 

[Otis]

Yes that's all well and good saying all that but at what point should people start taking responsibility for their own actions? Going to a cinema mob handed with machetes? You think this is all down to cuts in services? Really? More like a total lack of respect for anyone and anything. These arsewipes would still do the same regardless of police cuts or not.
Feral dragged up scum that need eliminating from society.
The problem we also have these days is to many do gooders making excuses for them. Carrying a knife should be a minimum of 10 years in prison imo.
And don't these cuts affect everybody? Funnily enough when I finish work at 2 today I've no plans to put a tracksuit and hoody on and go tooled up with a machete up town.

I think the length of the sentence should also be governed by the size of the knife you carry. Any carrying of a knife in such circumstances, a sentence, but a machete, a much, much longer sentence imposed.

 

[covcity4life]

Of course I do. I'd actually argue the point that the immigrants aren't actually responsible for the large percentage of crime that they're blamed for.
A lot of this is a home grown problem. Young out of control gangster wannabes with no respect for anyone and anything. Imo a lot of this could be nipped in the bud from the home.

100% agree

And i dibt care if i sound like an old fuddy duddy, this country losing its family values and morals


Look at love island. Its softcore porn. Never ever would have been in telly in 80s and 90s. Kids are growing up to be gangsters or sluts as their aspirations

 

[Astute]

First sentence aged 20 last one 40. 25 years out. Not proud at all in fact ashamed, but I know about violence. Mixed with some hard people but does anybody on here really know about violence ?

I was a twat when I was younger. Would never start anything but would go flying in if anyone I was with or knew got attacked. Got away with it the few times I got my collar felt because it was down to self defence. Then the last time I didn't. The judge said I was going to get a custodial sentence. The only thing to decide was for how long. My family didn't even know I was in court. You will know that feeling when the blood drains out of you in a second. But the truth came out. I kept my freedom.

Just after that my little brother got attacked by 3 blokes. He held his corner until his mates joined in. It ended up being a riot. He got 30 months for inciting a riot. And ut was him that got attacked. Two reality checks in about 2 months.

Yes you get wiser as you get older. Only had one fight since. That is in about the last 15 years. I got chinned from the side. Didn't see a thing. Then luckily he dived on top of me giving me a chance to realise what was happening. I had just managed to get him in a hold as the police came in the pub.

The good thing is word got round. He got the sack from working the doors there for attacking other people. I was new in the area but had instant respect. Not even had an argument since.......other than when this young lad tried pushing me over. I hardly moved but he went backwards. And he got kicked out :smuggrin:

Fighting is for idiots. I still train. But I have to. My youngest lad is 10 today. I need to be able to sort him out if he needs it when he is older when I am in my 60's. He is going to be a big lad. He is already taller than his Nanna. And my shortest lad so far is 6'2"

 

[bringbackrattles]

My son does charity boxing and he's got a fight in December. Best thing he's ever done as it channels his aggression, and he trains hard in the gym too. I found when I started playing rugby it kept me out of trouble, sport definitely helps I reckon. Plus seeing a psychologist regularly too !

 

[Otis]

My son does charity boxing and he's got a fight in December. Best thing he's ever done as it channels his aggression, and he trains hard in the gym too. I found when I started playing rugby it kept me out of trouble, sport definitely helps I reckon. Plus seeing a psychologist regularly too !

Plus SBT, which in its own way is therapy.



Of sorts.