Anyone heard any rumours recently (13 Viewers)

wingy · Apr 6, 2017

Thing Is.
Fisher in his Sky Interview was categorical no offers had been made through him.
I've heard a former employee at senior level put three potential suitors in touch with Sepallla on the basis of talks around £10M, only to be scared off by a hike of a further £10M once contact had been initiated.
I'm also still of the opinion Anderson was trying to broker something other than rent deals.
Intriguing If Hoffman now acts as the middle man.

clint van damme · Apr 6, 2017

wingy said:
Thing Is.
Fisher in his Sky Interview was categorical no offers had been made through him.
I've heard a former employee at senior level put three potential suitors in touch with Sepallla on the basis of talks around £10M, only to be scared off by a hike of a further £10M once contact had been initiated.
I'm also still of the opinion Anderson was trying to broker something other than rent deals.
Intriguing If Hoffman now acts as the middle man.

I posted on another thread that they'd pull that stunt if they got an offer, they've done it 3 times! Do they never learn?

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 6, 2017

clint van damme said:
I wondered if this would have any bearing on how this plays out. Success in the rest of their portfolio helping them to crsytalise losses elsewhere. Can it work like that?

Years ago I did a bit of digging around what else is in their portfolio, one was in a Chinese pharma company, others were in steel. All over the world in all sorts of industries. If CCFC were their only business interest I suspect they would have cut it loose by now. For now though it might be serving a purpose to help with their other interests.

John_Silletts_Nose · Apr 6, 2017

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Years ago I did a bit of digging around what else is in their portfolio, one was in a Chinese pharma company, others were in steel. All over the world in all sorts of industries. If CCFC were their only business interest I suspect they would have cut it loose by now. For now though it might be serving a purpose to help with their other interests.

How would CCFC serve a purpose with other interests?
Found it very hard to find out any information on the SISU protfolio or investors.
Did you investigate their previous investments as well?

John_Silletts_Nose · Apr 6, 2017

dubed said:
They listen to what you say and turn this into PowerPoint slides that tell you what you said, only in a way that allows you to pass this off to your director as meaningful work and progress.

Your director will similarly employ management consultants to bundle up all his reports to his CEO, whilst your CEO will have whole swathes of consultants working on communications to the members of the board or to the government minister/permanent secretary. Much of your tax money goes on this shite - the figures are quite eye-watering.

This is a very cynical view of the work of consultancies.
As you state, most companies employ them and some are better than others, McKinsey and Boston Consulting Group being top examples, Accenture, KPMG and PWC being highly rated as well. If they did not add significant value then they would not be used, even if its just to validate a decision which the director or CEO may have already preferred.
If KPMG were involved when SISU bought CCFC then they should have flagged up the high rent as a cause for concern or did they think it was acceptable?

letsallsingtogether · Apr 6, 2017

wingy said:
Thing Is.
Fisher in his Sky Interview was categorical no offers had been made through him.
I've heard a former employee at senior level put three potential suitors in touch with Sepallla on the basis of talks around £10M, only to be scared off by a hike of a further £10M once contact had been initiated.
I'm also still of the opinion Anderson was trying to broker something other than rent deals.
Intriguing If Hoffman now acts as the middle man.

I heard the same thing.
He is now reluctant to put others forward as it gives him a bad name.
He has already turned one club's fortunes around this season.

mrtrench · Apr 6, 2017

Wait until the law suits have been exhausted. Then they will sell.

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Apr 6, 2017

mrtrench said:
Wait until the law suits have been exhausted. Then they will sell.

We'll all be dead by then

ccfc92 · Apr 6, 2017

Lots of activity on facebook saying club to be sold by May.

Will believe it when I see it.

Randeep94 · Apr 6, 2017

italiahorse said:
There will be willing buyers but only for what it's worth.
Unfortunately Sisu want to the buyer to clear most the debt and there lies the problem.

Didn't they clear debt a few years ago? If I remember rightly they converted into shares.

ccfc92 · Apr 6, 2017

Randeep94 said:
Didn't they clear debt a few years ago? If I remember rightly they converted into shares.

Who knows what they've actually done.

Randeep94 · Apr 6, 2017

Chipfat said:
If Hoffman has been asked by Sisu to find a buyer that is massive news. It's a big if but what we do know is that things can't carry on as they are. We as a club need a new direction and no matter what Fisher says the owners can't keep watching the club fail and have to fund its running.

They have controlled and are to blame for the current situation in regards to what they have overseen. The club is a money pit and as of Saturday will become a very expensive weight and burden. They know it, and it would make sense for them to look to get out.

Let's hope for some truth in this story, we all need it. And anyone following should learn from past mistakes made by the current ownership. Build relationships, connect with local businesses and the local council, inform fans of a plan a target to aim and involve us. Promise nothing but hard work and truth about intentions short mid and long term.

Build a 1st team while carrying on the great work the academy are doing in producing young talent. Work with not fight a council that will gladly help in securing land that will become a club asset not a anchor that rent has to be paid.

This club has massive potential and it can be turned round if we get people with the knowledge to tap into the area. It's waiting for a hero and as long as the new people have a controlled plan like a Southampton, Swansea, Bournemouth or even Burton themail club can be developed and progress. Sometimes you have to let something break before you rebuild it, we maybe this case.

Fact of the matter is alot of these things work in cycles. Look at football in the West Midlands as whole, not much happening apart from West Brom in the Prem.

Look at coastal teams Bournemouth, Southampton, Brighton and so on. All on the rise, reaping the rewards of good ownership and a positive fan base. And not so long ago all three were enduring hardships albeit very different to ours.

Although we have had abysmal luck in the last 20 years, we're not entitled to anything in football. Just ride the storm, and eventually it will come good.

olderskyblue · Apr 7, 2017

I've also heard a few interesting rumours about CCFC and a potential sale.

No idea if they're true or not

Source? I read them on here....

Nathccfc · Apr 7, 2017

Twitter has been going mad the last day or so, with rumours of new American owners! Fellow cov fans have been mentioning of hearing rumours but I can't seem to find the source or even the person who has released the rumours. However I am hearing of similar rumours for about 3 different people, too many people know things for it not to be true

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clint van damme · Apr 7, 2017

Nathccfc said:
Twitter has been going mad the last day or so, with rumours of new American owners! Fellow cov fans have been mentioning of hearing rumours but I can't seem to find the source or even the person who has released the rumours. However I am hearing of similar rumours for about 3 different people, too many people know things for it not to be true

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you do understand how a rumour works mate?!

Deleted member 5849 · Apr 7, 2017

It's all about ze Russians and their eggs...

Nathccfc · Apr 7, 2017

clint van damme said:
you do understand how a rumour works mate?!

Yeah I do, but I mean I can't find on twitter who has said the rumour. IE, "I have been told by someone related to the club, blah blah, that an american guy and his advisors were seen visiting fishface" If you know what I mean.

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clint van damme · Apr 7, 2017

Nathccfc said:
Yeah I do, but I mean I can't find on twitter who has said the rumour. IE, "I have been told by someone related to the club, blah blah, that an american guy and his advisors were seen visiting fishface" If you know what I mean.

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let's just hope there is some truth in it mate but I'm very sceptical.

Deleted member 5849 · Apr 7, 2017

If an infinite number of monkeys are placed at an infinite number of typewriters for an infinite amount of time, one of them will correctly predict a CCFC change of ownership, eventually.

Nathccfc · Apr 7, 2017

clint van damme said:
let's just hope there is some truth in it mate but I'm very sceptical.

I hope so to, thing is with twitter there is a lot of shit on there. However on the odd occasion something is true. News travels to twitter faster than even the actual news on the TV most of the time.

Fingers crossed that something is happening, did all seem strange when robins agrees to come back. So dare I say that it seems as if something may have been in the water since then.

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superskyblue · Apr 7, 2017

Nathccfc said:
I hope so to, thing is with twitter there is a lot of shit on there. However on the odd occasion something is true. News travels to twitter faster than even the actual news on the TV most of the time.

Fingers crossed that something is happening, did all seem strange when robins agrees to come back. So dare I say that it seems as if something may have been in the water since then.

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Doubt Robins return has anything to do with a takeover. More that his reputation was damaged and he needed a job to pay the bills.

shmmeee · Apr 7, 2017

Deleted member 5849 said:
If an infinite number of monkeys are placed at an infinite number of typewriters for an infinite amount of time, one of them will correctly predict a CCFC change of ownership, eventually.

Let's leave the CT and Observer out of this.

Esoterica · Apr 7, 2017

Deleted member 5849 said:
If an infinite number of monkeys are placed at an infinite number of typewriters for an infinite amount of time, one of them will correctly predict a CCFC change of ownership, eventually.

Wouldn't happen...

fernandopartridge · Apr 7, 2017

dubed said:
They listen to what you say and turn this into PowerPoint slides that tell you what you said, only in a way that allows you to pass this off to your director as meaningful work and progress.

Your director will similarly employ management consultants to bundle up all his reports to his CEO, whilst your CEO will have whole swathes of consultants working on communications to the members of the board or to the government minister/permanent secretary. Much of your tax money goes on this shite - the figures are quite eye-watering.

Earn hundreds of millions from the taxpayer through hefty contracts while simultaneously advising companies how to avoid tax.

Gave toxic banks a clean bill of health leaving the taxpayer to clean up the mess

They (like the other of the big 4 / 6) are staffed by people who think life is all from a text book. Wankers.

ajsccfc · Apr 7, 2017

Went on Twitter first thing and that 'you may have missed...' feature was just different people talking about takeover rumours. Nothing any more specific than some American at Wembley who was blown away by what he saw, but that could be in reference to the price of beer in the concourse.

clint van damme · Apr 7, 2017

ajsccfc said:
Went on Twitter first thing and that 'you may have missed...' feature was just different people talking about takeover rumours. Nothing any more specific than some American at Wembley who was blown away by what he saw, but that could be in reference to the price of beer in the concourse.

thanks, it was a special day that's why I made the effort.

ajsccfc · Apr 7, 2017

I thought top hat and tails was overkill, but you may just have saved the club

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Apr 7, 2017

Deleted member 5849 said:
If an infinite number of monkeys are placed at an infinite number of typewriters for an infinite amount of time, one of them will correctly predict a CCFC change of ownership, eventually.

Right we've already got the monkeys, what's a typewriter?

Flying Fokker · Apr 7, 2017

Nathccfc said:
Yeah I do, but I mean I can't find on twitter who has said the rumour. IE, "I have been told by someone related to the club, blah blah, that an american guy and his advisors were seen visiting fishface" If you know what I mean.

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Another red herring.

fernandopartridge · Apr 7, 2017

John_Silletts_Nose said:
This is a very cynical view of the work of consultancies.
As you state, most companies employ them and some are better than others, McKinsey and Boston Consulting Group being top examples, Accenture, KPMG and PWC being highly rated as well. If they did not add significant value then they would not be used, even if its just to validate a decision which the director or CEO may have already preferred.
If KPMG were involved when SISU bought CCFC then they should have flagged up the high rent as a cause for concern or did they think it was acceptable?

Aren't you the fella who came on here trying to brag about how much you were paid as an accountant....

mrtrench · Apr 7, 2017

Nathccfc said:
Twitter has been going mad the last day or so, with rumours of new American owners! Fellow cov fans have been mentioning of hearing rumours but I can't seem to find the source or even the person who has released the rumours. However I am hearing of similar rumours for about 3 different people, too many people know things for it not to be true

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Facebook is full of people saying that Trump attacked Syria with chemicals to give himself an excuse to invade. Too many people for it not to be true.

mrtrench · Apr 7, 2017

fernandopartridge said:
Earn hundreds of millions from the taxpayer through hefty contracts while simultaneously advising companies how to avoid tax.

Gave toxic banks a clean bill of health leaving the taxpayer to clean up the mess

They (like the other of the big 4 / 6) are staffed by people who think life is all from a text book. Wankers.

You are a very negative person. However, on this occasion I kind of agree with you that consultancies are useless. You get to see someone at the start who is knowledgeable about your business but once they are in the door they flood you with people who are clueless and are measured by their company by how many more people they can get through the door. Their focus is presentation over content and they looooove spending days and days using Powerpoint.

I wouldn't hire them.

covcity4life · Apr 7, 2017

i cant believe we are gonna have new owners by kick off tomorrow! wohoooooooooooooo

hutch1972 · Apr 7, 2017

I noticed earlier that the post regarding this has been removed from Facebook.
Probably had 2nd thoughts about creating another takeover storm and creating even more division amongst supporters.

Monners · Apr 7, 2017

There is no takeover - heard it here first

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