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shmmeee

shmmeee

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Don’t know him but know people that do from work, from what I hear his health has been very bad since he had a stroke and he’s hardly in a position to defend himself. Not sure how I feel about it TBH. Obviously my sources are biased but never got the impression he’s particularly evil.
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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My old nan is not in great health but the news he is unwell will perk her up as she will want to outlive him so she can dance on his grave
 
SkyBlueDom26

SkyBlueDom26

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shmmeee said:
Don’t know him but know people that do from work, from what I hear his health has been very bad since he had a stroke and he’s hardly in a position to defend himself. Not sure how I feel about it TBH. Obviously my sources are biased but never got the impression he’s particularly evil.
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Shock he’s from the Labour Party and shock you are defending him
 
rob9872

rob9872

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Hmm interesting the Mail should begin hounding a retired Labour politician

'A couple of black eyes': Johnson and the plot to attack a reporter

Channel Four allegations reveal a darker side to Boris Johnson

Judges in Ball vs Boris Johnson Brexit bus legal case face complaint | Metro News
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None of which are relevant to this.
All three articles (from equally unbiased sources of course) may or may not be true. Whether they are or not, does not excuse what GR is alleged to have done. Deflection rather than dealing with the facts presented is a typical politician's way - have you ever considered a career change BSB?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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rob9872 said:
None of which are relevant to this.
All three articles (from equally unbiased sources of course) may or may not be true. Whether they are or not, does not excuse what GR is alleged to have done. Deflection rather than dealing with the facts presented is a typical politician's way - have you ever considered a career change BSB?
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GR on the evidence presented looks as guilty as sin. What I object to is the ill advised comment about dancing on his grave and then the Johnson cock sucker Dim accusing others of partisan loyalty.
 
Astute

Astute

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Hmm interesting the Mail should begin hounding a retired Labour politician

'A couple of black eyes': Johnson and the plot to attack a reporter

Channel Four allegations reveal a darker side to Boris Johnson

Judges in Ball vs Boris Johnson Brexit bus legal case face complaint | Metro News
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If he was a Tory you would have been all over it. You would have said about how the rich Tories get richer by fraud. You would say how much he should be prosecuted. You would give your reasons why you shouldn't trust a Tory. Look at the details. Dodgy financial deals have shadowed him for years.

But hold on....Labour MP for nearly 50 years. Let's change the subject. Let's attack someone from the Tories.

Deflect deflect deflect.

This is what is wrong with the Labour party these days. Activists like yourself have ruined our party. You make out we should be extremely left wing as that puts us against those with money. But you ignore those who are rich in the Labour party. You say we should stop private education but make excuses for those running the Labour party that had a private education.

People like yourself are making my party unvotable. I have been saying it for years on here. But what do we get?

Deflect deflect deflect.

This shouldn't be about what party someone is affiliated to. Commit a crime do the time. Chase his assets like you enjoy having happen to a Tory.

I want my party back. I want a party I can be proud of. I don't want to have to rely on people like yourself to defend the undefendable.

And I await more deflect deflect deflect.
 
Astute

Astute

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shmmeee said:
Don’t know him but know people that do from work, from what I hear his health has been very bad since he had a stroke and he’s hardly in a position to defend himself. Not sure how I feel about it TBH. Obviously my sources are biased but never got the impression he’s particularly evil.
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Not evil.

But a fraudster. Someone fraudulently taking money from the state. Someone taking money from the taxpayer in a fraudulent way. Someone that if he was a Tory you would have gone for the throat.

He didn't need the money. It was total greed.

Do you really think that these are the only frauds committed by him?

Presently I am in a country similar to the UK 40 years or more ago. Very militant. But much safer. Everyone has been on strike since I got here. Even the pupils at my 18 year old daughters school. It is all about the unaffordable state pensions. 16% of the GDP goes on state pensions. And it is going up.

The one thing very similar to France and the UK is ideals. But we are niw more realistic in the UK. But I agree that the French have a point on promises made.

You should move here. You would love it. The majority would be on your side.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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Astute said:
If he was a Tory you would have been all over it. You would have said about how the rich Tories get richer by fraud. You would say how much he should be prosecuted. You would give your reasons why you shouldn't trust a Tory. Look at the details. Dodgy financial deals have shadowed him for years.

But hold on....Labour MP for nearly 50 years. Let's change the subject. Let's attack someone from the Tories.

Deflect deflect deflect.

This is what is wrong with the Labour party these days. Activists like yourself have ruined our party. You make out we should be extremely left wing as that puts us against those with money. But you ignore those who are rich in the Labour party. You say we should stop private education but make excuses for those running the Labour party that had a private education.

People like yourself are making my party unvotable. I have been saying it for years on here. But what do we get?

Deflect deflect deflect.

This shouldn't be about what party someone is affiliated to. Commit a crime do the time. Chase his assets like you enjoy having happen to a Tory.

I want my party back. I want a party I can be proud of. I don't want to have to rely on people like yourself to defend the undefendable.

And I await more deflect deflect deflect.
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I’m not a party activist. I’ve said on the available evidence this dude’s guilty. But for Dim to go on about defending him no matter what is the biggest pot kettle black I’ve ever seen.

Roll on the Astute straw man arguments
 
SkyBlueDom26

SkyBlueDom26

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
You saying that others will defend someone no matter what is as hypocritical as it gets.
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chiefdave

chiefdave

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SkyBlueDom26 said:
Ah yes but you are missing 2 key words, he isn't!
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You must have missed my post on here the other day. Looks like Johnson might be heading back to court on the misconduct in public office charge.

It has emerged Judge Supperstone, who threw the case out before it was heard in front of a jury, 'accidentally' forgot to declare he accepted a £35K payment from Johnson for 'consultancy services' and is a member of a private club with Johnson's father, Rees-Mogg and Gove.
 
Astute

Astute

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
I’m not a party activist. I’ve said on the available evidence this dude’s guilty. But for Dim to go on about defending him no matter what is the biggest pot kettle black I’ve ever seen.

Roll on the Astute straw man arguments
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After you post this in reply to a longstanding Labour MP committing different frauds

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Hmm interesting the Mail should begin hounding a retired Labour politician

'A couple of black eyes': Johnson and the plot to attack a reporter

Channel Four allegations reveal a darker side to Boris Johnson

Judges in Ball vs Boris Johnson Brexit bus legal case face complaint | Metro News
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Yes. Nothing to do with the Labour MP. All about a Tory.

Would you like to explain how this isn't deflection?

Yes Boris is a twat. He only got in because you have the Labour party you want. A party the majority won't vote for.
 
SkyBlueDom26

SkyBlueDom26

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chiefdave said:
You must have missed my post on here the other day. Looks like Johnson might be heading back to court on the misconduct in public office charge.

It has emerged Judge Supperstone, who threw the case out before it was heard in front of a jury, 'accidentally' forgot to declare he accepted a £35K payment from Johnson for 'consultancy services' and is a member of a private club with Johnson's father, Rees-Mogg and Gove.
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Its just an agenda against him
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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Astute said:
After you post this in reply to a longstanding Labour MP committing different frauds

Yes. Nothing to do with the Labour MP. All about a Tory.

Would you like to explain how this isn't deflection?

Yes Boris is a twat. He only got in because you have the Labour party you want. A party the majority won't vote for.
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Stop coming out with the straw men and maybe we can have some kind of discussion. Actually buddy it doesn’t really matter what I say you will find some way to argue with yourself.
 
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