Hang on nick, you can't now use the people 'other commitments' argument, because that's not what either BHSB or myself have challenged you on. Your stance was that 'it won't do any good, which we challenged that, you now have to demonstrate a scenario where doing nothing has been for the betterment of mankind. Like BHSB said less than 600 people at the fans forums is poor, its no wonder TF can keep avoiding questions and saying things like 'a considerable number of fans have said they will travel outside the city' because he and SISU think we as a group of fans don't give enough of a shit. Now if you want to sit and be fed shit and accept it, that's your decision, but I don't. Its the same when people say 'the Trust doesn't represent my views' and then moan about what they are doing, don't just sit there complaining to the computer. Join up and go to the meetings, tell them that you don't like their stance, and influence them to the way you think.
No, I was replying to the bit about going to forums and not many people turning up, that is why I used other commitments. You are mentioning numbers of people going to forums and protests etc which is why I mentioned people having other things to be doing.
If you want to go all the way to London to put a letter in a letterbox as it makes you feel better for giving enough of a shit then fair play to you, it isn't for everybody and neither is going to a fans forum. Maybe at the forums if there weren't people asking stupid questions there would have been more time for people who know what they are talking about to quiz them and get some answers, instead people shouting "just go Tim" give Fisher a way out as he could deal with those questions in his sleep.
Again, why wouldn't the trust take onboard feedback via forums? Would a lot of people feel comfortable going into a pub where a group of people they don't know are and saying "I think you are doing it wrong". They would probably just get told "At least we are doing something", like they do on here.
I haven't said doing nothing is the best form of action, but then again I am not running a fans trust am I? Why not try to get feedback from members to see what they think will make a difference and communicate a bit more rather than saying everything has to be done at a pub?
How about live web chats and more interaction with members that way rather than saying you only have a say if you go to the pub? I am pretty sure most members would say it isn't a good idea to go to a place where nobody will be to hand over a letter in terms of making an impact?