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Yes they did, but this latest statement appears that Wasps are adamant.
SISU or Otium or whoever were aware of the implications, should they continue with their likely latest fruitless request for an appeal.
They did say that last time...
Yes they did, but this latest statement appears that Wasps are adamant.
SISU or Otium or whoever were aware of the implications, should they continue with their likely latest fruitless request for an appeal.
Isn't there some point where they can see the amount of times they've lost an appeal and just lol them out of the building forever instead of giving them 28 days to respond and start again?
We're now in a position where we have to hope that Wasps bluff has been called, and they relent and do a deal. How determined are they to stick to the "no talks with legal action going on" stance are they? For the sake of our club, let's hope their resolve can be bended a little.
Either way, the fans are the ones who suffer yet again. Just when things were looking up on the pitch, this foolishment rears its ugly head yet again. They're gambling with our clubs future, and they're not doing it very well.
Lets face it, if you were Wasps you wouldn't engage with them until right at the death. If they still need us then they do a deal but the more the hold out the higher those rent costs go.We're now in a position where we have to hope that Wasps bluff has been called, and they relent and do a deal. How determined are they to stick to the "no talks with legal action going on" stance are they? For the sake of our club, let's hope their resolve can be bended a little.
Either way, the fans are the ones who suffer yet again. Just when things were looking up on the pitch, this foolishment rears its ugly head yet again. They're gambling with our clubs future, and they're not doing it very well.
We're now in a position where we have to hope that Wasps bluff has been called, and they relent and do a deal. How determined are they to stick to the "no talks with legal action going on" stance are they? For the sake of our club, let's hope their resolve can be bended a little.
Either way, the fans are the ones who suffer yet again. Just when things were looking up on the pitch, this foolishment rears its ugly head yet again. They're gambling with our clubs future, and they're not doing it very well.
Think we still need to step back and see what happens, first let’s see if this appeal goes ahead, then when, also let’s get a clear statement from Wasps that they won’t negotiate. The PR damage to them could be massive, they won’t want that. Wasps will have various sponsors who might not like their name linked to one sporting organisation screwing another causing it to close down, Of course sisu are as much if not more to blame for this whole debacle but we can’t get at them as we can Wasps and it is the Wasp threat threatening the existence of our football club.
You still earn far more than me, so quit your moaningaccording to CWR the council have spent £619K on JR 1 and £324K on JR 2 so far
Add to that Wasps have spent £500k so far
always knew i should have been a lawyer not an accountant !
It so weird, technically the clubs statement is spot on but ultimately the club are owned by the same people, this argument doesn't have legs with the fans
and I am surprised that they still roll these words out but not sure what else they do.. Also does anybody have an idea on how long this latest appeal might take ?
Is there a danger that it goes beyond the end of the current season?
No surprise - I am starting to become concerned now for our future (under statement of the day)
Could be weird going forward. How will club generate income from next year's season ticket sales, if where we play remains unresolved? Fecking annoying to put it mildly, and makes a mockery of the role TF plays, if he can't influence those above him. Also gives a nice easy get out regarding players/MR et al if our future remains unresolved. Could SISU sell all our players, cash in whatever they can, then just disband the club? Dramatic and unlikely, I know, but like the other poker analogies have suggested, they seem to be betting everything, knowing they have a shit hand, and hoping that Wasps will fold under a wave of 'love for CCFC'. If it all goes wrong, those involved will have a lot to answer for.
In the press the fact SISU were suing Wasps will be a sidenote to the real story. The real headline will be 'Rugby Club kicks ex-F.A. Cup winners out the EFL'. The national backlash they could receive would be detrimental to the Wasps. For instance, commercially what sponsor is going to want to be associated with a club who's so negatively in the media spotlight, what player is going to want to play for a club who's financial situation is precarious due to the latter and thirdly and perhaps most importantly why would their main backer continue his association with them when he's losing even more money and his own rugby club is being nationally attacked.
This isn't even including the local backlash they'd receive.
Not that easy to sell players nowadays even harder forcthe right money when a potential buyer sniffs a bit of desperation. As for TF what is his roll now at ccfc ? Yes I know he’s our chairman but there not been a word from him regarding this, he’s the chairman ffs ! I’m fairly confident there will be a deal probably short term but there are a lot of very worried supporters out there. Our chairman should make a statement as to where we stand officially.Could be weird going forward. How will club generate income from next year's season ticket sales, if where we play remains unresolved? Fecking annoying to put it mildly, and makes a mockery of the role TF plays, if he can't influence those above him. Also gives a nice easy get out regarding players/MR et al if our future remains unresolved. Could SISU sell all our players, cash in whatever they can, then just disband the club? Dramatic and unlikely, I know, but like the other poker analogies have suggested, they seem to be betting everything, knowing they have a shit hand, and hoping that Wasps will fold under a wave of 'love for CCFC'. If it all goes wrong, those involved will have a lot to answer for.
All true but this feels different, I suspect we will get an 11th hour deal with neither party really happy. Once the legals have gone away if they doIn the press the fact SISU were suing Wasps will be a sidenote to the real story. The real headline will be 'Rugby Club kicks ex-F.A. Cup winners out the EFL'. The national backlash they could receive would be detrimental to the Wasps. For instance, commercially what sponsor is going to want to be associated with a club who's so negatively in the media spotlight, what player is going to want to play for a club who's financial situation is precarious due to the latter and thirdly and perhaps most importantly why would their main backer continue his association with them when he's losing even more money and his own rugby club is being nationally attacked.
This isn't even including the local backlash they'd receive.
Not locally because they have the Telegraph in their pocket but nationally there would be a lot of press about how we were kicked out of the football league because they refused to deal with us even though we were asking for a deal.It wouldn't get spun like that though.
It wouldn't get spun like that though.
All true but this feels different, I suspect we will get an 11th hour deal with neither party really happy. Once the legals have gone away if they do
what options do SISU have then though? Whilst they still have the legals I guess they have hope (in their world)
This is not at all far fetched - a very possible scenario - ultimately the football club will suffer for certain, panic sales easily on the agenda.playing devils advocate for a minute...............
We get to March and the legals are on going possibly for no other reason than lack of court time. SISU confirm they will not withdraw the court action by SBS&L, ARVO & Otium. The CCFC/Otium cannot give the required notice of home ground for 2019/20 season to the EFL. There are no other options in the region acceptable to EFL and the fans of CCFC are unlikely to travel in sufficient numbers to make out of Coventry viable. CCFC teetering on the brink of extinction. Wasps at last moment offer a day rent on a game by game basis that equates to £1m per annum with no F&B access but undisclosed as to the amount due NDA. Without funds from the owners CCFC can not really afford it, players would have to be sold making the playing squad weaker and survival in the division unlikely, finances are squeezed. EFL are happy for one season at least and favour the deal. Wasps by making the offer gain positive not negative PR. Legal action continues.It can all be spun as SISU's fault. CCFC crashes and burns
What is the way out? Who is it that takes the club down? Who is it that ends CCFC?
Why wouldn't it? That's the real story out of this mess. Where's the story in 'bad owners mismanage club'. If that were the case the majority of the clubs in the FL would be in the press on a regular basis. A Rugby Club (the rival sport to football) causing an ex-Premier League and F.A. Cup winning football club to go bust due to a stadium dispute. I'd be astounded if that wasn't published in at least one of the nationals.
Had the same thought as soon as the EFL said they wouldn't allow the club to play out of Coventry. Wasps can ask for anything they want in terms of rent and the club has no option but to accept.playing devils advocate for a minute...............
We get to March and the legals are on going possibly for no other reason than lack of court time. SISU confirm they will not withdraw the court action by SBS&L, ARVO & Otium. The CCFC/Otium cannot give the required notice of home ground for 2019/20 season to the EFL. There are no other options in the region acceptable to EFL and the fans of CCFC are unlikely to travel in sufficient numbers to make out of Coventry viable. CCFC teetering on the brink of extinction. Wasps at last moment offer a day rent on a game by game basis that equates to £1m per annum with no F&B access but undisclosed as to the amount due NDA. Without funds from the owners CCFC can not really afford it, players would have to be sold making the playing squad weaker and survival in the division unlikely, finances are squeezed. EFL are happy for one season at least and favour the deal. Wasps by making the offer gain positive not negative PR. Legal action continues.It can all be spun as SISU's fault. CCFC crashes and burns, crowds down, poor results, no money
What is the way out? Who is it that takes the club down? Who is it that ends CCFC? All about perception i guess
Always been the case though, hasn't it. The problem is it's never been black and white anyway (nothing ever is, tbf).What is the way out? Who is it that takes the club down? Who is it that ends CCFC? All about perception i guess
In the press the fact SISU were suing Wasps will be a sidenote to the real story. The real headline will be 'Rugby Club kicks ex-F.A. Cup winners out the EFL'. The national backlash they could receive would be detrimental to the Wasps. For instance, commercially what sponsor is going to want to be associated with a club who's so negatively in the media spotlight, what player is going to want to play for a club who's financial situation is precarious due to the latter and thirdly and perhaps most importantly why would their main backer continue his association with them when he's losing even more money and his own rugby club is being nationally attacked.
This isn't even including the local backlash they'd receive.
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