Brighton Sky Blue
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Correct it’s obviously not derelict. But the ground isn’t even 20 years old and Wasps neglected it by basically ignoring all maintenance.
Arena dilapidation costs - £12.9m over next 3 years (1 Viewer)
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MalcSB
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The first rumour I heard was £13m, got hyped from there.
Londonccfcfan
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Fucking consultants rip buildings apart to justify their jobs. Work with them everyday in central london. (I'm a Chartered Engineer and work in Insurance).
Alot of these are nice to have. They say everything has a life of 15/20 years for spare parts etc.
This makes it looks alot worse than it is. These are worst case scenarios. And alot of the the things like the lifts etc can and will easily last another 15 years.
You wanna see the dilapidated stadiums we been to following city around the country.
skybluetony176
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Can’t say I’m totally shocked. Most elements of any installation has a design life and in my experience it’s typically 20 years (give or take) so a major refurbishment of the things we wouldn’t really notice like fire alarms etc was always going to be on the cards around now. Couple that with Wasps not having the money to maintain it fully with all the debt they were trying to service meaning routine maintenance such as the things we do notice such as leaking roofs, shabby paintwork etc wasn’t getting done.
So basically a lot of the major costs were always going to be on the card’s around now simply because things were coming naturally to the end of their design life and clearly they were behind on general maintenance too, assume cash flow related.
The interesting thing for me is what if the council had have bailed them out of their financial mess. Wasp’s still wouldn’t have had the money to pay for these repairs so would they have been straight back to the council cap in hand again?
It’s pretty clear that there was no other option but for ACL to change hands and whoever was taking it on needed deep pockets.
So basically a lot of the major costs were always going to be on the card’s around now simply because things were coming naturally to the end of their design life and clearly they were behind on general maintenance too, assume cash flow related.
The interesting thing for me is what if the council had have bailed them out of their financial mess. Wasp’s still wouldn’t have had the money to pay for these repairs so would they have been straight back to the council cap in hand again?
It’s pretty clear that there was no other option but for ACL to change hands and whoever was taking it on needed deep pockets.
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Yeah, usually hate the house analogies but it is like a buildings survey. They'll obviously find everything wrong, you have to weed out the important stuff from the stuff you'd never notice usually to get the true practical cost of repairs.
Sky Blue Pete
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Went to Solihull moors last night with my lad for a ref thing. The arena is fabulous was so excited for him to progress
tisza
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actually just over 20% of construction value. Project value was 120m ish - stadium build & furb around 59m.
I was talking overall project cost. You can't ignore the cost of getting out of the ground. It would be 20% of the rebuild cost.
Brylowes
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Certainly won’t be a shock to Ashley, they spent the last 2 weeks or so completing due diligence didn’t they.
What do you think we'd have done about it in league two.
Come on stay rational.
clint van damme
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I had some dealings with dilapidation in my old job. More to do with returning a leased buildings to their original state. The costs in the initial reports were always eye watering and the work always got completed for a lot less.
Absolutely, total over reaction by jobs worths and health and safety Nazis
shmmeee
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Do you make a survey available to everyone who bids on your house?
(I mean that should be law, but it’s not)
Londonccfcfan
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You wonder how Lutons Kenilworth Road gets a safety certificate. Its a hazard getting to your seat never mind trying sitting in it. So many trip hazards even in the aisles.Absolutely, total over reaction by jobs worths and health and safety Nazis
Took about 10 mins to get out single file. I wonder what their fire evacuation procedure is?
Congregate on the pitch.
Brylowes
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So that’s what Millwall were up to all those years ago, it was a fire drill.
shmmeee
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Not a bidders due dil then? Bit weird.
Bugsy
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MalcSB
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You do in France, whole purchase system far better there,
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"SISU move club to Scotland"
Senior Vick from Alicante
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Marlon King asked her on a date?
robbiethemole
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Item 35: sewerage cost £120k, maybe Hill should be sent the invoice for this? Hahaha
SW-Sky Blues
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Speakers are vital due to safety.
shmmeee
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And yet the stadium has been running for 17 years and classed as safe.
Grendel
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I’m assuming this is an internal RAG chart prioritising work to be done isn’t it?
shmmeee
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Yeah I’d guess so. the idea it needs £13m tomorrow or is going to be shut down is a bit wide of the mark is all. Looks more like a few mill is needed and most of the rest is stuff that will be replaced over time as it wears out.