David O'Day
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Technically he was out, but it's not the done thing usually is it and it's not in the spirit of the game. Not in cricket.Just me that doesn’t get the fuss? Bairstow just started walking. Didn’t ground his bat, umpire didn’t call over and he didn’t confirm with Carey the ball was dead
Bairstow 100% at fault there
The spirit of the game is a load of crap. This is elite sport. It’s currently the difference between the two sides. They’re ruthless we’re not.Technically he was out, but it's not the done thing usually is it and it's not in the spirit of the game. Not in cricket.
Many Aussie commentators saying that Cummings should have withdrawn the appeal.
As Jonathan Agnew said on the BBC website, the Aussies should have at least warned Bairstow first.
I know it's happened before, but the last one I remember, the non batsman was trying to make ground before the bowler had bowled and was out of this crease. That was trying to gain an advantage.
Bairstow wasn't trying to gain any advantage.
It was stupid and sloppy of Bairstow though for sure.
It's just caused a lot of bad blood now.
Crap? They literally have a Spirit of Cricket awards.The spirit of the game is a load of crap. This is elite sport. It’s currently the difference between the two sides. They’re ruthless we’re not.
I personally don’t think Carey meant it. They’re right Bairstow shys it at the stumps, most wicket keepers do it.
Bairstow is an international cricketer - an experienced one at that. It’s basic that you ground the bat
bairstow shys if the batsman is looking at running, not when the batsman thinks it's overThe spirit of the game is a load of crap. This is elite sport. It’s currently the difference between the two sides. They’re ruthless we’re not.
I personally don’t think Carey meant it. They’re right Bairstow shys it at the stumps, most wicket keepers do it.
Bairstow is an international cricketer - an experienced one at that. It’s basic that you ground the bat
Last year's winner was a wicket keeper who refused to run out a player.Crap? They literally have a Spirit of Cricket awards.
Winner of the 2021 ICC Spirit of Cricket Award revealed
ICC Awards
New Zealand's Daryl Mitchell has been named the recipient of the ICC Spirit of Cricket Award after his gesture in the 2021 ICC Men's T20 World Cup semi-final against England in Abu Dhabi.
Mitchell becomes the fourth New Zealand player to win the award, following the footsteps of Daniel Vettori, Brendon McCullum and Kane Williamson. Mitchell wins the award for refusing to take a single in the high-pressure T20 World Cup semi-final against England in Abu Dhabi on November 10, 2021.
"It’s an honour to receive the ICC Spirit of Cricket Award," Mitchell said. "To be part of that T20 World Cup in UAE was an amazing experience, and to receive an award like this is pretty cool.
"It’s something that we pride ourselves on as New Zealanders, the way we go about playing our cricket, and yes, the Spirit of Cricket side. Personally, I felt I got in the way and we wanted to win on our own terms, and didn’t want to be controversial in such a big game.
"It paid off in the long run that we won the game. Looking back, it all happened pretty quickly."
This spirit is described in the preamble to the laws of cricket: "Cricket is a game that owes much of its unique appeal to the fact that it should be played not only within its laws but also within the spirit of the game. Any action which is seen to abuse this spirit causes injury to the game itself."
What happened
In the first semi-final of the 2021 ICC Men's 2021 T20 World Cup at the Sheikh Zayed Stadium in Abu Dhabi, England and New Zealand were locked in a tight battle to reach the summit clash. Batting first, England had posted a competitive 166/4 on the board courtesy of Moeen Ali's half-century.
New Zealand were on course for the run chase with a well-settled Mitchell establishing a partnership with James Neesham, who was in blistering form. The incident occurred on the first ball of the 18th over bowled by Adil Rashid, with the score at 133/4.
Neesham bashed the ball down the ground and it would have been an easy single. But Mitchell, at the non-striker's end, refused to take the run, conceding that he had impeded Rashid – in a high-pressure chase, with a place in the World Cup final at stake, Mitchell's gesture oozed class.
Nasser Hussain, who was live on commentary during the contest, was full of praise for Mitchell saying, "That is very good. That is so New Zealand, it really is. So easy to take a run there. But the non-strike said, 'No, I've got in the way of Adil.' Anything sums up New Zealand cricket – it was that."
Mitchell, explaining why he refused to take the single, added: "It was a pretty tigagainst England in that semi-final, with only a few overs to go. Neesh (Jimmy Neesham) hit a single down to long-off I think it was, and I felt like I’d obstructed Rashid from getting to the ball.
"The game that we play, we play it because we love it. Yes, we want to win as much as we can, but we don’t want that to come about from doing things that go against the values of cricket. Spirit of Cricket is vitally important. It sets a platform for kids in the future, who will go about playing the game in the right way.
"At the end of the day, it is a game, it’s something that we love. So obviously we’re so lucky to do that."
Eventually, New Zealand ended up winning the contest, chasing the total down with an over to spare. Mitchell who opened the batting proved to be the match-winner, playing a memorable knock of 72* in only 47 deliveries, hitting the winning runs.
New Zealand would end up as the runners-up in the tournament, falling short at the final hurdle against Australia who won the match by eight wickets.
And the player there literally says how vitally important the spirit of cricket is.
not the same, the NZ player out of his crease in the middle of an over and the ball is clearly live. He was just confused as there was an LBW appeal and never made it back to his crease (which bairstow did)What’s the difference here?
Isn't the difference he was trying to ground his bat to show he was still in and Bairstow believed the play was over, because it had gone straight through to the keeper and was not trying to gain any advantage.What’s the difference here?
what happened was DGH played a shot which took him out of the crease and his it his pads, england appealed for LBW which wasn't given but DGH didn't make any attempt to return to his creaseIsn't the difference he was trying to ground his bat to show he was still in and Bairstow believed the play was over, because it had gone straight through to the keeper and was not trying to gain any advantage.
I get your point, but seems to me that the play here was still on and Grandhome could have gone for another run had there be one on. Seems to me he was down the pitch a little in case there was still a run available.
not the same, the NZ player out of his crease in the middle of an over and the ball is clearly live. He was just confused as there was an LBW appeal and never made it back to his crease (which bairstow did)
I watched their players yesterday after the Bairstow incident and they were all celebrating not 1 questioning voice to me clearly shows the way they intend to play.
I would hope not, but you might be right.You do wonder whether England batsman would stand if he edged the ball with 2 to win and they had no more reviews. I bet social media would be full of “whatever it takes” comments
Broad literally did this in 2013, and said before this series he’d do it againI would hope not, but you might be right.
Few players walk anymore unless it's blatant. Consensus seems to be it's up to the umpire, not the player. Disputed catches similar. Majority of the time catchers know whether they caught it cleanly or not - still force umpires to make the decision.You do wonder whether England batsman would stand if he edged the ball with 2 to win and they had no more reviews. I bet social media would be full of “whatever it takes” comments
What’s the difference here?
Last year's winner was a wicket keeper who refused to run out a player.
No, I agree. Cricket does set itself apart from other elite sports at times though and this spirit is still there to be found at times.Broad literally did this in 2013, and said before this series he’d do it again
spirit of cricket awards are nothing in the grand scheme of things - you may be seen as a good guy but ultimately it doesn’t win you the ashes
But with exception of a Kiwi we have been a bit shit and JB is having a bit of a shocker. Lot of nonsense going on. Broad who stood on a blatant edge, Stokes wants to win properly unless it’s a World Cup Final with massive help from his helmet ( so to speak). We threw that match away regardless of Aussie shenanigans.
When was this? I can't remember it.It doesn't change the fact that others play to win and frankly I don't see much wrong with it
I am surprised if you want a direct comparison and a team reversing the appeal no one has mentioned the Bell run out v India which is an almost identical comparison
He thought he hit it for 4 and stood in the middle of the pitch the Indian fielder threw it to Dhoni who stumped bell - brainless that wasWhen was this? I can't remember it.
Dhoni then withdrew the appealHe thought he hit it for 4 and stood in the middle of the pitch the Indian fielder threw it to Dhoni who stumped bell - brainless that was
Have to add, I am always for fair play. Whichever team, theirs or ours. I don't even like the City shithousing to win a game.When was this? I can't remember it.
Exactly. I think it's 7 of the current side were also playing in the 'sandpaper' Test (which they all must have known about). All the stuff they then spouted about changing the way they were going to play has now been proven to be BS (which everyone knew anyway).I would say it is against the Spirit of the Game rule. And for this Aussie team, that is trying to rehabilitate its image after one of the most high-profile cheating incidents in the history of the game a few years ago, that is not a good look.
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