Ashley Cain's daughter (1 Viewer)

[chiefdave]

Why is this such a big story? Obviously it tragic but sadly its not that uncommon.

 

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[Nick]

Why is this such a big story? Obviously it tragic but sadly its not that uncommon.

Again, the Telegraph jumped on when people on social media were talking about it to try and "adopt it" as their thing. Absolutely rinsing everything about it every time one of the parents breathed because reality stars were posting about her on social media.

 

[SBT]

Again, the Telegraph jumped on when people on social media were talking about it to try and "adopt it" as their thing. Absolutely rinsing everything about it every time one of the parents breathed because reality stars were posting about her on social media.

Haven’t seen the CT stories, but I’m guessing they’re doing them for the same reasons you posted a thread about it in the first place - because it’s a story that resonates with people, and one that’s got people talking on social media. Seems fair enough to me?

 

[Grendel]

Andy turners logged on I see

 

[Nick]

Haven’t seen the CT stories, but I’m guessing they’re doing them for the same reasons you posted a thread about it in the first place - because it’s a story that resonates with people, and one that’s got people talking on social media. Seems fair enough to me?

Here we go.

No, they jumped on because they saw reality stars on social media talking about it and thought they could get a piece of the pie. They have then fired out at least 3 articles most days about every time somebody has farted.

Maybe have a look at the stories being mentioned first yeah? The blind defence is weird.

 

[SBT]

Here we go.

No, they jumped on because they saw reality stars on social media talking about it and thought they could get a piece of the pie. They have then fired out at least 3 articles most days about every time somebody has farted.

Maybe have a look at the stories being mentioned first yeah? The blind defence is weird.

I mean....they’re putting out stories on a public figure, which is literally their job, and because people apparently want to read/talk about that stuff. At least, that’s why you posted about it in the first place - don’t recall any other threads from you about sick children of former players, but maybe that’s a coincidence, you tell me.

Once again you moan endlessly about the CT and social media, when you seem to be the most rabid consumer of both. They must love you! (Except for all the angry letters)

 

[Nick]

I mean....they’re putting out stories on a public figure, which is literally their job, and because people apparently want to read/talk about that stuff. At least, that’s why you posted about it in the first place - don’t recall any other threads from you about sick children of former players, but maybe that’s a coincidence, you tell me.

Once again you moan endlessly about the CT and social media, when you seem to be the most rabid consumer of both. They must love you! (Except for all the angry letters)

It's their job to put out multiple stories a day about every movement made by the parents?

Again, do you actually have a clue what you are defending? Course you fucking don't, again.

 

[SBT]

It's their job to put out multiple stories a day about every movement made by the parents?

Again, do you actually have a clue what you are defending? Course you fucking don't, again.

Yes, it’s their job to write stories that people will read and talk about. It appears they have an audience (although as we’ve already established, it’s not me).

Probably best to leave it there, I think.

 

[Nick]

Yes, it’s their job to write stories that people will read and talk about. It appears they have an audience (although as we’ve already established, it’s not me).

Probably best to leave it there, I think.

Yet you haven't seen the stories we are talking about but just blindly defend it? OK then.

 

[Walsgrave]

The way I see it is:

.Ashley Cain's family and friends have every right to grieve in whatever manner they wish to help them to cope with their awful loss. If that means taking to social media and getting condolences, then so be it.

.However, media people tend to think they have the right to use people's grievances for stories in the name of 'journalism'. They will do anything they can to make money (see Caroline Flack, Princess Diana etc). Morals have gone right down the pan in the industry - both nationally and locally. The justification that they use to rinse people like Ashley Cain (that they are 'public figures') just does not hold weight. Not all journalists and media people of course, but an awfully large number of them.

 

[Winny the Bish]

The way I see it is:

.Ashley Cain's family and friends have every right to grieve in whatever manner they wish to help them to cope with their awful loss. If that means taking to social media and getting condolences, then so be it.

.However, media people tend to think they have the right to use people's grievances for stories in the name of 'journalism'. They will do anything they can to make money (see Caroline Flack, Princess Diana etc). Morals have gone right down the pan in the industry - both nationally and locally. The justification that they use to rinse people like Ashley Cain (that they are 'public figures') just does not hold weight. Not all journalists and media people of course, but an awfully large number of them.

The justification is that people click on them. Cov Tel aren't writing stories about Ashley Cain because it's hard-hitting journalism, but because right now it's what people are clicking on - even if they do have to invent a new story every time he posts on social media.

Welcome to the new world of journalism, where no-one is willing to pay for actual good content and all writers get judged on clicks.

 

[Walsgrave]

The justification is that people click on them. Cov Tel aren't writing stories about Ashley Cain because it's hard-hitting journalism, but because right now it's what people are clicking on - even if they do have to invent a new story every time he posts on social media.

Welcome to the new world of journalism, where no-one is willing to pay for actual good content and all writers get judged on clicks.

Yep, I agree with you there. I think they use the term 'because they are public figures' because it is a way to gloss over the actual reason why they are doing it - for clicks and money. No journalists or media person wants to admit that their job involves writing about other people 'for clicks and money' so they dress it up by using nonsense terms like 'it's in the public interest'.

Which in reality means 'its in our private/money making interest', but we're just too ashamed of ourselves to admit it.

 

[NortonSkyBlue]

I get the cynicism but surely however unpalatable you think the Cain Family are, the real story is a baby was sick and eventually died, caught the imagination of the wider public and 1.6 million was raised to support her treatment and was used to pay for her funeral and now a foundation in her name.
It happened on the Coventry Telegraphs patch in Nuneaton, I would be surprised if they hadn't covered a news story that was and is followed nationally and internationally.