Back to being the biggest club in Coventry? (40 Viewers)

chiefdave · Nov 19, 2015

italiahorse said:
Errr Wasps are running it and there profile is bringing in the money .
CCFC need to get on the radar first.

Not sure I agree with this. What profile do Wasps have?

I'm pretty certain if you went to any town centre and asked 100 people where Coventry City played a lot more would know the answer than if you asked where Wasps played. Similar if you asked who played at the Ricoh I'm sure more people would answer Coventry City than Wasps.

Rugby is not a mainstream sport in the way football is. Lets look at the facts. We are playing in the third tier yet are getting bigger crowds than Wasps playing in the top tier.

Even at our level there is regular prime time coverage on free to view TV and multiple live matches shown every week on Sky Sports. I don't think rugby even has a free to view equivalent of MOTD for the top level let alone lower levels and the live matches are on a much smaller channel in BT Sport.

italiahorse · Nov 19, 2015

chiefdave said:
Not sure I agree with this. What profile do Wasps have?

I'm pretty certain if you went to any town centre and asked 100 people where Coventry City played a lot more would know the answer than if you asked where Wasps played. Similar if you asked who played at the Ricoh I'm sure more people would answer Coventry City than Wasps.

Rugby is not a mainstream sport in the way football is. Lets look at the facts. We are playing in the third tier yet are getting bigger crowds than Wasps playing in the top tier.

Even at our level there is regular prime time coverage on free to view TV and multiple live matches shown every week on Sky Sports. I don't think rugby even has a free to view equivalent of MOTD for the top level let alone lower levels and the live matches are on a much smaller channel in BT Sport.

Basically agree but it seems things like corporate seem to sell out more. Other incomes seem to happen at higher levels of each sport.
We need to get in the Championship and back on the radar.

Grendel · Nov 19, 2015

italiahorse said:
Basically agree but it seems things like corporate seem to sell out more. Other incomes seem to happen at higher levels of each sport.
We need to get in the Championship and back on the radar.

More spin and bullshit with no evidence.

The wasps PR machine is very active at the moment.

Interesting isn't it?

italiahorse · Nov 19, 2015

Grendel said:
More spin and bullshit with no evidence.

The wasps PR machine is very active at the moment.

Interesting isn't it?

Unable to buy Corporate for Wasps this weekend is a clue.
Check the corporate for us and it's non existent.
We need to get out of this league and raise our profile.

Interesting how you keep talking but actually say nothing.

Grendel · Nov 19, 2015

italiahorse said:
Unable to buy Corporate for Wasps this weekend is a clue.
Check the corporate for us and it's non existent.
We need to get out of this league and raise our profile.

Interesting how you keep talking but actually say nothing.

Today I received an E Mail from CCFC advertising tickets at full retail price. I also received two from Wasps - one advertising a substantial discount and the other offering tickets for the next game for £1 if you attend the one at the weekend.

Instead of acting like a cheap whore for Richardson and Eastwood and desperately defending their PR machine, start acting in the interest of the football club. Your are rapidly becoming an "In the Know" figure on this forum. Time to show where your real interest lies.

As for unable to buy corporate tickets -- really? I've been offered free packages by two different sources. Word is they literally cannot give them away.

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Nov 20, 2015

italiahorse said:
Unable to buy Corporate for Wasps this weekend is a clue.
Check the corporate for us and it's non existent.
We need to get out of this league and raise our profile.

Interesting how you keep talking but actually say nothing.

This is the sort of fixture that will attract the rugby neutrals for Wasps as it will be one of the headline fixtures for Rugby this weekend and I'd imagine many corporate figures will be making an appearance as a sign of solidarity with France given the opposition this weekend.

14,000 Coventry fans for a league 1 fixture, a fixture which in the bigger picture of world football doesn't even scratch the surface, or 15,000 neutrals for a game which will be one of the headline fixtures for its sport.

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out, Wasps are near the top of there sport and big in the world of rugby. In the wider sporting world they are an unknown.

skybluetony176 · Nov 20, 2015

Grendel said:
Today I received an E Mail from CCFC advertising tickets at full retail price. I also received two from Wasps - one advertising a substantial discount and the other offering tickets for the next game for £1 if you attend the one at the weekend.

Instead of acting like a cheap whore for Richardson and Eastwood and desperately defending their PR machine, start acting in the interest of the football club. Your are rapidly becoming an "In the Know" figure on this forum. Time to show where your real interest lies.

As for unable to buy corporate tickets -- really? I've been offered free packages by two different sources. Word is they literally cannot give them away.

So, if you're in the Wasps mailing list for tickets presumably you must have purchased some Wasps tickets at some point?

Grendel · Nov 20, 2015

skybluetony176 said:
So, if you're in the Wasps mailing list for tickets presumably you must have purchased some Wasps tickets at some point?

No Tony nice try - you only have to view the site to attract interest. Always good to see what is going on.

skybluetony176 · Nov 20, 2015

Grendel said:
No Tony nice try - you only have to view the site to attract interest. Always good to see what is going on.

So do you have to give them your email address to view the site then? That would be unusual if not unique.

Grendel · Nov 20, 2015

skybluetony176 said:
So do you have to give them your email address to view the site then? That would be unusual if not unique.

I receive offers via an alternate source who do have my E-Mail address -- offers which I have previously posted on here.

Why on earth would I buy tickets for Wasps? Unlike Italia if I wanted to go (which I do not) I would just take advantage of the free offers.

As I rejected the offer of the World Cup Final including overnight stays etc. I think its safe to say this sport does not register on my zone of interest.

Nice attempt at diversion though.

skybluetony176 · Nov 20, 2015

Grendel said:
I receive offers via an alternate source who do have my E-Mail address -- offers which I have previously posted on here.

Why on earth would I buy tickets for Wasps? Unlike Italia if I wanted to go (which I do not) I would just take advantage of the free offers.

As I rejected the offer of the World Cup Final including overnight stays etc. I think its safe to say this sport does not register on my zone of interest.

Nice attempt at diversion though.

You seem confused. First you only have to view the site to attract interest and then when questioned you come up with a completely different reason why you get emails from Wasps, then you start protesting too much about why you wouldn't go while trying to divert attention to Italia.

I don't know what that smell is in the air but it's familiar around your posts and extra strong on this one.

italiahorse · Nov 20, 2015

Grendel said:
Today I received an E Mail from CCFC advertising tickets at full retail price. I also received two from Wasps - one advertising a substantial discount and the other offering tickets for the next game for £1 if you attend the one at the weekend.

Instead of acting like a cheap whore for Richardson and Eastwood and desperately defending their PR machine, start acting in the interest of the football club. Your are rapidly becoming an "In the Know" figure on this forum. Time to show where your real interest lies.

As for unable to buy corporate tickets -- really? I've been offered free packages by two different sources. Word is they literally cannot give them away.

Prove it. Otherwise remain the bullshi77er you are !!
Wasps corporate is sold so it must be the Land Rover box tickets your boss teased you with in his office

Easy to say but lets see if its difficult to prove.

For your assistance here is the sold out link
https://www.eticketing.co.uk/wasps/default.aspx

Top prize for continued bull5hit

Grendel · Nov 20, 2015

italiahorse said:
Prove it. Otherwise remain the bullshi77er you are !!
Wasps corporate is sold so it must be the Land Rover box tickets your boss teased you with in his office

Easy to say but lets see if its difficult to prove.

For your assistance here is the sold out link
https://www.eticketing.co.uk/wasps/default.aspx

Top prize for continued bull5hit

Nope other sources have the offers. What do you want me to do record the conversation?

Exeter sold out? What in the Legends area - are you sure?

italiahorse · Nov 20, 2015

Grendel said:
Nope other sources have the offers. What do you want me to do record the conversation?

Exeter sold out? What in the Legends area - are you sure?

So your source is a conversation ? .......................hmmmm

skybluetony176 · Nov 20, 2015

Grendel said:
Nope other sources have the offers. What do you want me to do record the conversation?

Exeter sold out? What in the Legends area - are you sure?

That's it, you keep changing your story. It's bound to make it more believable.

That's version 3 now.

italiahorse · Nov 20, 2015

CCFC said:
This is the sort of fixture that will attract the rugby neutrals for Wasps as it will be one of the headline fixtures for Rugby this weekend and I'd imagine many corporate figures will be making an appearance as a sign of solidarity with France given the opposition this weekend.

14,000 Coventry fans for a league 1 fixture, a fixture which in the bigger picture of world football doesn't even scratch the surface, or 15,000 neutrals for a game which will be one of the headline fixtures for its sport.

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out, Wasps are near the top of there sport and big in the world of rugby. In the wider sporting world they are an unknown.

Is anybody actually saying that Wasps are bigger on this thread ?
I don't think Wasps care if they are bigger than CCFC or not.
This thread has been raised by a sad individual who has got his arse in his hands and keeps feeding bull5hit into the argument that is easily shot down.

italiahorse · Nov 20, 2015

skybluetony176 said:
That's it, you keep changing your story. It's bound to make it more believable.

That's version 3 now.

I think he needs to write down some notes so he can refer to his latest bu77shi7.
He's picking a fight with Wasps and their fans but they don't care.

Nick · Nov 20, 2015

Wasps people cared enough to sign up on here in fairness..

chiefdave · Nov 20, 2015

The Wasps ticket offers are back out in force, posted an example earlier in this thread.

As for comparing corporate take up there is definitely a fair chunk of free hospitality at Wasps games, of course they can do that at cost in the hope of bringing in future business, a model which doesn't work for CCFC.

The problem we are having with corporate was explained by the club at the start of the season. Unless we block book and pay Wasps up from we can't guarantee availability which limits what we can offer.

italiahorse · Nov 20, 2015

chiefdave said:
The problem we are having with corporate was explained by the club at the start of the season. Unless we block book and pay Wasps up from we can't guarantee availability which limits what we can offer.

Any businessman worth his salt would be able to predict this.
I would not use it as an excuse for not getting booking.

We need to get in the Championship to get on the radar again.

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Nov 20, 2015

italiahorse said:
Is anybody actually saying that Wasps are bigger on this thread ?
I don't think Wasps care if they are bigger than CCFC or not.
This thread has been raised by a sad individual who has got his arse in his hands and keeps feeding bull5hit into the argument that is easily shot down.

Well you were just bragging about how Wasps high profile was bringing in the money and how hey sold out the corporate tickets, not sure what point you were trying to make.

chiefdave · Nov 20, 2015

italiahorse said:
Any businessman worth his salt would be able to predict this.
I would not use it as an excuse for not getting booking.

Don't agree with that at all. Success on the pitch has a big impact. Don't care how good a businessman you are you wouldn't have been predicting a large demand for tomorrows game for example above games earlier in the season.

Block booking would be a risk and a potential loss if the hospitality wasn't resold.

italiahorse · Nov 20, 2015

CCFC said:
Well you were just bragging about how Wasps high profile was bringing in the money and how hey sold out the corporate tickets, not sure what point you were trying to make.

No I was responding to Grendel who said they couldn't give corporate away.
I'm only putting the facts on the table.

italiahorse · Nov 20, 2015

chiefdave said:
Don't agree with that at all. Success on the pitch has a big impact. Don't care how good a businessman you are you wouldn't have been predicting a large demand for tomorrows game for example above games earlier in the season.

Block booking would be a risk and a potential loss if the hospitality wasn't resold.

Not sure how much notice you need to give so I'll agree with you.
I guess we are talking hotel rooms here for on the day conversion so probably the reason that the balcony is empty.

SkyBlueZack · Nov 20, 2015

Raise our profile? We got to be one of the biggest names in this division. We're a one club city with 300k plus people living here. We was in the top flight for years and won the fa cup. Wouldn't agree champ football would raise our profile but it would make it more appealing in the sense people find wasps appealing because of the level ofrugby.

SkyBlueZack · Nov 20, 2015

You do seem very negative of the club yet overly positive of wasps I think that's what grates more than anything else.

italiahorse · Nov 20, 2015

SkyBlueZack said:
You do seem very negative of the club yet overly positive of wasps I think that's what grates more than anything else.

Why am I negative of the club ?
Where have I been overly positive of Wasps ?
I'm just putting the facts on the table of this Wasps swatting thread !!

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Nov 20, 2015

italiahorse said:
No I was responding to Grendel who said they couldn't give corporate away.
I'm only putting the facts on the table.

You brought it up first though so that is a lie.

Grendel · Nov 20, 2015

italiahorse said:
No I was responding to Grendel who said they couldn't give corporate away.
I'm only putting the facts on the table.

I bet you can't even lie straight in bed can you?

Moff · Nov 20, 2015

italiahorse said:
I think he needs to write down some notes so he can refer to his latest bu77shi7.
He's picking a fight with Wasps and their fans but they don't care.

You clearly do, as does Tony. Quite telling really.

Moff · Nov 20, 2015

italiahorse said:
Prove it. Otherwise remain the bullshi77er you are !!
Wasps corporate is sold so it must be the Land Rover box tickets your boss teased you with in his office

Easy to say but lets see if its difficult to prove.

For your assistance here is the sold out link
https://www.eticketing.co.uk/wasps/default.aspx

Top prize for continued bull5hit

The irony of you calling Grendel a bullshitter, is lost on you, the man who continually posts his opinion, based on little or no fact.

italiahorse · Nov 20, 2015

CCFC said:
You brought it up first though so that is a lie.

I bought it up to say that incomes like corporate will increase as we get a higher profile regardless of the sport.
Grendel said that Wasps couldn't give corporate away so I corrected him.

If you want to sit there being fed bulls8it then good look to you.

Moff · Nov 20, 2015

italiahorse said:
I bought it up to say that incomes like corporate will increase as we get a higher profile regardless of the sport.
Grendel said that Wasps couldn't give corporate away so I corrected him.

If you want to sit there being fed bulls8it then good look to you.

I would prefer good LUCK that you stop posting all the bullshit then

italiahorse · Nov 20, 2015

Moff said:
The irony of you calling Grendel a bullshitter, is lost on you, the man who continually posts his opinion, based on little or no fact.

All opinions on here are exactly what they are, opinions.
Just because my opinion is different to yours doesn't make it wrong.
If your opinions are based on facts then your a better man than I am.

At least I try to offer an explanation which is more than your irritating squeaking over Grendels shoulder does.

If Grendel says Wasps have not sold out corporate for this Sunday do you believe him or me ?

italiahorse · Nov 20, 2015

Moff said:
I would prefer good LUCK that you stop posting all the bullshit then

You'll be printing my name soon you irritating little man.

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