Back to being the biggest club in Coventry? (19 Viewers)

[Grendel]

Didn't they get 22k for the same fixture last season, that's a 27% reduction within 12 months.


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Someone on the phone in said they only got 16,000 and Linnell said that was because it wasn't against big opposition.

He also laughed at the suggestion they give lots of tickets away saying "it's simply not true"

 

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[italiahorse]

Didn't they get 22k for the same fixture last season, that's a 27% reduction within 12 months.


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Its called the new stadium effect.
Cant you remember when we had it?

 

[italiahorse]

Someone on the phone in said they only got 16,000 and Linnell said that was because it wasn't against big opposition.

He also laughed at the suggestion they give lots of tickets away saying "it's simply not true"

The free tickets are nothing new, its when you want them regularly it becomes a problem.
Its a tester for people and if you like what you see you will probably commit to a season ticket.
Also they tend to be in the corners.

If your not bothered you may think you can get them anytime.
Our local school gets them via the headmistress but they are limited, not every match and on a rota.
Although she does go most times they are available.:thinking about:

 

[stupot07]

Its called the new stadium effect.
Cant you remember when we had it?

It took 6-7 years and facing relegation to lose that many fans.


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[SkyBlue_Bear83]

Its called the new stadium effect.
Cant you remember when we had it?

Is the Ricoh a new stadium? Hardly comparable to us moving into the Ricoh.


I'd call it, the new team effect.

 

[italiahorse]

It took 6-7 years and facing relegation to lose that many fans.


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Is the Ricoh a new stadium? Hardly comparable to us moving into the Ricoh.


I'd call it, the new team effect.

It's slightly different in respect that a lot of people would also be taking a tester of a different sport.

As you may know football is fairly easy to follow and most people can see what is going on all the time.
Rugby seems quite tactical to me, the ball can't be seen at times and unless you are 'into it' you can soon loose interest quite quickly.
I'm surprised how many children maintain interest during matches.

I must say that the Rugby, even for me as a novice, has been exciting this weekend.
The open play in thrashing Leinster would even have pleased the hardest of football fans

 

[ranstone]

Didn't they get 22k for the same fixture last season, that's a 27% reduction within 12 months.


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Taking into account it was a dead game for Leinster .... Not surprising there was a drop with hardly any visiting fans.

 

[Grendel]

Taking into account it was a dead game for Leinster .... Not surprising there was a drop with hardly any visiting fans.

Ah the wasps fans are here to quell the negativity.

 

[Nora Barnacle]

16,519. Biggest Champions Cup crowd of the weekend. Next biggest Clermont, 15,702.

 

[Grendel]

16,519. Biggest Champions Cup crowd of the weekend. Next biggest Clermont, 15,702.

That's interesting "Nora" - how's the average Premier league crowd going versus say Leicester or Northampton?

First post on here is it?

Fuck off.

 

[Moff]

16,519. Biggest Champions Cup crowd of the weekend. Next biggest Clermont, 15,702.

Of course it was, Tigers and Saints were away.

 

[duffer]

16,519. Biggest Champions Cup crowd of the weekend. Next biggest Clermont, 15,702.

Indeed, although of course I believe Leicester, Northampton and Gloucester were playing away...

At home Leicester pulled in over 19,000 last week and that was against Treviso, who will have brought considerably less fans than Leinster.

Let's not pretend, Wasps aren't exactly the massive draw that some would have us believe - and the evidence is clearly that they're losing fans when compared even to last season.

With both Coventry City and Coventry RFC having away games a long way from home on Saturday, and this being a must-win game for Wasps, you might have expected a bit of a pick-up in interest. Clearly there wasn't one.

If they haven't given up enough free tickets now to spike an interest, then one has to doubt that they ever will. For a few big games, they'll get a half-decent attendance - but for everything else it looks like it's already on the wane. God forbid they should have a bad run of form, eh, especially with a huge interest payment to find every year before they can even think about paying down debt...

 

[Nick]

16,519. Biggest Champions Cup crowd of the weekend. Next biggest Clermont, 15,702.

Somebody who runs a Wasps site, with their second account. ointlaugh:

I quote:

In the middle of last month, I put out an appeal for photographs, for use on the Wasps FC page which I compile for London Wasps programmes. Unfortunately, I have been anything but snowed under. The ladies section have been very helpful, but there has hardly been anything else.

 

[italiahorse]

Somebody who runs a Wasps site, with their second account. ointlaugh:

I quote:

So if you are a Wasps fan you can't post ?
Or, if you can post you deserve to be ridiculed ?

 

[Moff]

So if you are a Wasps fan you can't post ?
Or, if you can post you deserve to be ridiculed ?

Or if you start a second user id to promote your teams cause, you deserve the ribbing.
Its like Grendel trolling on the Wasps site. I noticed you werent as forgiving of that.

 

[italiahorse]

Or if you start a second user id to promote your teams cause, you deserve the ribbing.
Its like Grendel trolling on the Wasps site. I noticed you werent as forgiving of that.

Theres a difference between trolling and putting a fact on the table.

"16,519. Biggest Champions Cup crowd of the weekend. Next biggest Clermont, 15,702"

Grendel was very insulting because he can't debate.

 

[torchomatic]

Didn't they get 20k?

I thought they got 16k. Ah well...

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[Moff]

Theres a difference between trolling and putting a fact on the table.

"16,519. Biggest Champions Cup crowd of the weekend. Next biggest Clermont, 15,702"

Grendel was very insulting because he can't debate.

If thats the case why did our Wasps friend Nora Barnacle start a second user account just to put this point across.

Whatever way you look at it, it looks like trolling to me, different to Grendels but still trolling.

 

[italiahorse]

If thats the case why did our Wasps friend Nora Barnacle start a second user account just to put this point across.

Whatever way you look at it, it looks like trolling to me, different to Grendels but still trolling.

Should admin use their privileges to aid their argument ?

 

[Moff]

Should admin use their privileges to aid their argument ?

Hey its his site, he can do what he wants.

To be fair neither me nor you could run such a site and if we dont like it I suppose we could try to start our own. I dont fancy my chances much and I hazard a guess you arent too dissimilar to me.

To be fair to Nick he does this in his own time so people like us can spout some good points, some rubbish, and some good old fashioned British moaning... he helps us get our fix!

 

[italiahorse]

Hey its his site, he can do what he wants.

To be fair neither me nor you could run such a site and if we dont like it I suppose we could try to start our own. I dont fancy my chances much and I hazard a guess you arent too dissimilar to me.

To be fair to Nick he does this in his own time so people like us can spout some good points, some rubbish, and some good old fashioned British moaning... he helps us get our fix!

He's almost perfect then, but not quite ?

 

[Moff]

He's almost perfect then, but not quite ?

A bit like us two then

 

[Nick]

Should admin use their privileges to aid their argument ?

Or I could just ban the account, then people could say it's just because he's a wasps fan. Blah blah.

 

[Nick]

So if you are a Wasps fan you can't post ?
Or, if you can post you deserve to be ridiculed ?

If you are a wasps fan and don't care about ccfc, it's a bit random signing up to a ccfc site.

 

[italiahorse]

If you are a wasps fan and don't care about ccfc, it's a bit random signing up to a ccfc site.

It happens.
There is nothing wrong with that post, you didn't like the fact, yet you used your position to ridicule the poster rather than the fact.
Are you reading my PM's ? :thinking about:

 

[Nick]

It happens.
There is nothing wrong with that post, you didn't like the fact, yet you used your position to ridicule the poster rather than the fact.
Are you reading my PM's ? :thinking about:

So what should I do, ban them like the others for using a second account? Then you can say I banned them because they are a wasps fan.

You are a wasps fan, you also support ccfc and aren't using another account... There's a difference.

I'm sure there are lots of both city fans and wasps fans, they are more than welcome on here. If you gave it loads about sixfields then I'll disagree but not a reason to ban somebody.

If you have no interest in ccfc then it's a different matter isn't it?

And no, I'm not interested in your sexting with grendel in pm...

 

[fernandopartridge]

Nick get rid of these Wasps wankers including the Beduff simpleton eh.

 

[italiahorse]

Nick get rid of these Wasps wankers including the Beduff simpleton eh.

He won't get rid of me because he will be left with the likes of you and your minimal contribution.

Wasps are our landlords, how they treat us will affect our future. You need to get over it.
As long as CCFC don't take your ostrich stance we will be okay.

Shame you can't enjoy the great rugby at the stadium but each to his own.

 

[ranstone]

Of course it was, Tigers and Saints were away.

Does that make a difference ? .... Franklins Gardens doesn't even hold 16 k

 

[Moff]

Does that make a difference ? .... Franklins Gardens doesn't even hold 16 k

I think it makes a difference having two such well supported genuine Midlands teams playing away, and only Wasps at home, in a third empty stadium, when their Chief Executive thinks they are the biggest rugby team in the world.

Franklins Gardens holds 15.5K, but Stadium MK where we play a selection of Games holds more. When we play there we generally fill it, unlike Wasps at the Ricoh, and The Tigers well their capacity and attendances speak for themselves.

Such a big game and such a poor turnout, even with all the discounts and freebies, is poor, very poor. Lets face it if either the Saints or the Tigers had been at home, those floating Rugby fans that may have attended the Ricoh would have been watching there instead, enjoying a proper Rugby atmosphere with passionate loyal fans, rather than watching some nomads in their Skyblue home.

 

[ranstone]

I think it makes a difference having two such well supported genuine Midlands teams playing away, and only Wasps at home, in a third empty stadium, when their Chief Executive thinks they are the biggest rugby team in the world.

Franklins Gardens holds 15.5K, but Stadium MK where we play a selection of Games holds more. When we play there we generally fill it, unlike Wasps at the Ricoh, and The Tigers well their capacity and attendances speak for themselves.

Such a big game and such a poor turnout, even with all the discounts and freebies, is poor, very poor. Lets face it if either the Saints or the Tigers had been at home, those floating Rugby fans that may have attended the Ricoh would have been watching there instead, enjoying a proper Rugby atmosphere with passionate loyal fans, rather than watching some nomads in their Skyblue home.

fair enough .... That's your opinion .... I still wouldn't call it a poor turnout though.... And wouldn't agree that casual fans would go to Tigers or Saints, the reality is neither of us know that. Saints haven't filled their ground for any home European game, so not sure where your logic is ? Perhaps they have a lot of floating fans in Milton Keynes. Where did Eastwood say that Wasps are are the biggest rugby team in the world ? I've not read that ! any links ? Id be interested to read.. The reality is that what really matters to a franchise is income and I'd take a good guess that the Wasps franchise have a bigger turnover than Tigers or Saints from tickets, beer, food, hospitality, casino, hotel and renting to CCFC. So I suppose it depends on what's important to the franchise, money or a few extra bums on seats.

 

[Grendel]

fair enough .... That's your opinion .... I still wouldn't call it a poor turnout though.... And wouldn't agree that casual fans would go to Tigers or Saints, the reality is neither of us know that. Saints haven't filled their ground for any home European game, so not sure where your logic is ? Perhaps they have a lot of floating fans in Milton Keynes. Where did Eastwood say that Wasps are are the biggest rugby team in the world ? I've not read that ! any links ? Id be interested to read.. The reality is that what really matters to a franchise is income and I'd take a good guess that the Wasps franchise have a bigger turnover than Tigers or Saints from tickets, beer, food, hospitality, casino, hotel and renting to CCFC. So I suppose it depends on what's important to the franchise, money or a few extra bums on seats.

Do Leicester and Northampton do bogof deals like wasps? I am a member of an association that's regularly offered 1,000 free tickets.

I don't follow rugby don't know. I get 5 or 6 e mails a week with subsidised offers.

Does that sound like a club which is happy with its fan base?

 

[ranstone]

Do Leicester and Northampton do bogof deals like wasps? I am a member of an association that's regularly offered 1,000 free tickets.

I don't follow rugby don't know. I get 5 or 6 e mails a week with subsidised offers.

Does that sound like a club which is happy with its fan base?

i can't speak for Leicester but I get regular emails with offers from Saints (having bought 2 tickets for my son 2 years ago) ... Not sure about freebies but they certainly send lots of offer mails. What could be overlooked is that 1000 free tickets doesn't stop anyone else buying one (because of the size of the ground) and might translate into 500 pints of beer, food, couple of hotel rooms, bit of money spent in the casino, a few tickets sold for the next game, a couple of season tickets etc etc etc .... So in reality 1000 free tickets converts to income it doesn't necessarily mean the franchise is not happy with its fan base.

 

[Grendel]

i can't speak for Leicester but I get regular emails with offers from Saints (having bought 2 tickets for my son 2 years ago) ... Not sure about freebies but they certainly send lots of offer mails. What could be overlooked is that 1000 free tickets doesn't stop anyone else buying one (because of the size of the ground) and might translate into 500 pints of beer, food, couple of hotel rooms, bit of money spent in the casino, a few tickets sold for the next game, a couple of season tickets etc etc etc .... So in reality 1000 free tickets converts to income it doesn't necessarily mean the franchise is not happy with its fan base.

So wasps (holdings) own the hotel and make money from its rooms? Really?

How many season tickets have been sold?

The same argument is relevant to ACL ltd prior to wasps except they went belly up despite CCFC handing over £1.2 million rent more than they do to wasps.

Are you saying the pie money is sufficient as that's the only difference to the council run ACL is it not?

 

[italiahorse]

I am a member of an association that's regularly offered 1,000 free tickets.

Of course you are. Even with no evidence we believe you.

I don't follow rugby don't know. I get 5 or 6 e mails a week with subsidised offers.

Of course you do. Even with no evidence we believe you. 5 or 6 ..... really ?

Does that sound like a club which is happy with its fan base?

Of course it doesn't. To become the biggest club in the world they need more fans.
Jump on the roller coaster and enjoy the ride ​A free ride in your case.