Grendel
Well-Known Member
So you are saying that anyone who didn't attend that protest is a keyboard warrior?
Did you attend Tony?
You should have joined Grendull at the protest at the Council House when they were voting on the Wasps takeover of ACL.
No wait, that was you getting from behind your keyboard and actually doing something in person to oppose something, not Grendull. Shouldn't have wasted your time and energy. Grendull and Co only seem to respect keyboard warriors, probably because that's exactly what they are. Maybe they keep forgetting what you and BHSB's did in person because it embarrasses them that you actually put the effort in to do something that they couldn't be arsed to do themselves.
So you are saying that anyone who didn't attend that protest is a keyboard warrior?
Did you attend Tony?
People don't came on here posting about how wonderful SISU are and how great they are though, whereas they do with Wasps.Only your posting history doesn't reflect that. If you were a neutral you'd be posting vile about both owners in equal parts, which you clearly don't. As a CCFC fan you'd be posting a higher percentage of vile about CCFC's owners than about Wasps owners, as we've already established you don't.
You're firmly in the "I know SISU carry some of the blame but..." club. In other words you'll blame anyone and everyone in great detail for the predicament that the clubs currently in but skip over SISU's part in this shitty mess by using the aforementioned statement so you can very lamely claim that you have posted many times that SISU are also to blame.
No he didn't but he did attend all the other one's that's more then you and all your cronies put together.
And entering sixfields doesn't count.
Yes so we took off time from work, I know not everyone can do this but honestly that turn out was an embarrassment.
Shows that most don't actually give a toss about the wasps.
Others moaned that the time was changed, well that was due to the council moving the meeting forward.
But if you really feel strongly about something then you make sure that you keep up with the opposition, and do what you have to do to get your message across.
So you are saying that anyone who didn't attend that protest is a keyboard warrior?
Did you attend Tony?
Would wasps sell any of it though Steve do you think? Didn't they say wouldn't want to sell any, or if they would it would be silly money I bet?Do not come on here very often anymore, mainly due to a few idiots. However like a lot of people I do read the threads.
I am well known for not being a fan of our owners and like the vast majority of fans find it hard to forgive them for a lot things they have done, but we need to put the past behind us and try and move on as SISU are not going anywhere.
The Wasps/ Ricoh situation is not going to change its happend its a fact and a Rugby team has bought our stadium.
My view is we should firstly get behind TM and the team, secondly encourage SISU to talk to Wasps and build a relationship with them. I have said before and I genuinly believe we can survive and prosper without owning our own stadium.
Another option is for SISU to try and buy into the Ricoh, get a small percentage then they get some revenue and can work on the long term. Making an enemy of everyone will not solve our other issues.
SISU may well win the appeal and years down the road get a payoff, but if they go for the £60m that's around £200 from every man woman and child in Coventry.
Lets work together, we might have differernt views but want the same end result and while things are good on the pitch we should be talking and asking questions if not just our owners but of Wasps in a positive manner.
Would wasps sell any of it though Steve do you think? Didn't they say wouldn't want to sell any, or if they would it would be silly money I bet?
If sisu did win then surely people should be looking at the council rather than saying it's sisu taking 200 off people?
Would wasps sell any of it though Steve do you think? Didn't they say wouldn't want to sell any, or if they would it would be silly money I bet?
If sisu did win then surely people should be looking at the council rather than saying it's sisu taking 200 off people?
Probably not, would you sell part of a stadium to someone who does everything in court, however by SISU making such an offer it would show long term commitment and also if nothing else open up some sort of negotiations?
Also if as expected Wasps say no, then the club know where they stand.
As for the Council, makes no difference if/ when SISU win it will be the people of Coventry who will foot the bill.
Whats our other options?
And I will take delight in every poor crowd (yes they will have good crowds too), every defeat, and anything else that puts egg on wasps faces.
I don't know what our options are
how much would the club need to own to get any benefit? They would essentially just be buying bond debt wouldn't they? Would the club get any returns or would it just be done as a gesture rather than to benefit the club?Stupot. I am not saying they want to share the stadium what I am trying to say is that by making the offer to buy a small percentage shows commitment, it also get there foot in the door for the future to negotiate in the long term.
eventially SISU will leave and by having a long term deal of some form will make us easier to sell ( also if we were in the Championship ) .
It would also be good if Wasps failed, too, to disourage franchising as a valid form of progression.
It's still too soon for MK to be a success for that reason too. Should both those clubs fail, it discourages profit rather than community-oriented owners from picking up clubs and dropping them elsewhere as it's shown not to work. This is bigger than CCFC, CCC and everyone else involved in the locality. This could have a massive consequence for sport and community around the country.
As for coming court cases... should SISU win then yes, it would be the council to blame, and the council should take the flack. I remain confident however, that process (if not long term intelligence) has been followed, so that will not be the result.
Why do people want Wasps to fail ?
Is this the same leader of the Trust who attends Wasps matches and has welcomed the franchise into Coventry? Yet another hypocrite who claims to have been betrayed by the club going to Sixfields, yet doesn't give a toss about the fans of a 'top class rugby club'.
Is this the same leader of the Trust who attends Wasps matches and has welcomed the franchise into Coventry? Yet another hypocrite who claims to have been betrayed by the club going to Sixfields, yet doesn't give a toss about the fans of a 'top class rugby club'.
Given I said in my post, this is a redundant question.
So you want Wasps to fail but encourage a 10 year deal?
Helloooo ??
how much would the club need to own to get any benefit? They would essentially just be buying bond debt wouldn't they? Would the club get any returns or would it just be done as a gesture rather than to benefit the club?
To be fair to Steve, after the initial heat had died down, he did make sure his personal views v the Trust views were separated, so that people going to Sixfields weren't separated.
So it seems only fair for me to say if he does go to Wasps games that although I disagree with that, I accept his right to do so.
Then I assume that he campaigned to ensure that those who attended Sixfields weren't subjected to abuse. How is deciding to enter Sixfields any different than going to watch a franchise at the Rico?
For me there is nothing different about the Wasps move and MK Dons.
Luckily the likes of Italia are in the minority.
I thought #fixfoot ball was to do with being against franchising? Hence our fans were sniffing the arses of Wimbledon fans? Then giving mk dons as much money as possibleWho abused those going to Sixfields ? I guess your generalising based on a couple of incidents !!
Why the sudden franchise fight ? You need to explain your real problem with Wasps taking over the stadium !!
How do you know I'm in the minority, have you been to a Wasps match to verify how many CCFC fans go ?
You appear to be in the minority regards being bothered about this franchise.
I thought #fixfoot ball was to do with being against franchising? Hence our fans were sniffing the arses of Wimbledon fans? Then giving mk dons as much money as possible
The football fans against this are far outweighed by the CCC ratepayers who only see the high profile sport in the city.
I thought #fixfoot ball was to do with being against franchising? Hence our fans were sniffing the arses of Wimbledon fans? Then giving mk dons as much money as possible
Why do people want Wasps to fail ?
Surely you would need to understand Sisu's position on things before wanting this to happen?
If Wasps fail will it may still be the case that Sisu can't afford the stadium and need to continue the process against ACL until it goes into administration?
I personally think the only way out of this is for Sisu and Wasps to work together to get CCFC back into the PL. It will have mutual benefits.
Wasps are not stupid in understanding that they would be better off with CCFC in the PL and as such should understand that CCFC would generate extra incomes for them and that a good proportion would need to be channeled back into CCFC to get them there in the first place.
The art is to get the mix right so that it becomes a win win for both clubs.
I can't see them buying into this whilst Sisu are talking of building a new stadium and going through the courts. Maybe, just maybe, a 10,000 crowd yesterday has lowered their expectations and this is an option they may now want to pursue.
We will need to wait until this process is finished and tread water until it does. Perhaps Championship level is actually a stretch too far for the club in the mean time.
As I have said before, our efforts need to be channeled into getting 'real' information out of Sisu to see what there actual plans are.
People seem more interested in bringing Wasps down to our level than bringing our club up to their level.
IMO most wouldn't give a damn.Have you asked them all?
And what will the CCC rate payers think if Ccfc end up moving out of the Ricoh and just outside the city?
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No, only six turned up because of the time change....IMO most wouldn't give a damn.
That is why we get low attendances.
And why only about 6 turned up when we protested against Wasps.
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