Bassala Sambou (12 Viewers)

SlowerThanPlatt · Apr 5, 2016

steve82 said:
Does anyone on here or yourself regularly watch the u21's or u18's?
Has Bas shined that much to warrant a place in match day squad? Also how far away is anyone to impact on the 1st team.

Yes I do watch the U18s and U21s, I believe AGSB15 and AndyM (I think he's Maddison's uncle) do too but they don't post much anymore. If you want to follow then there's a U18/U21 development thread on here which is active.

No, he hasn't, in my opinion. The U18s league is a poor standard this year compared to previous years. He's a second year scholar and has scored 13 goals in the league, Ronan Hale (Birmingham City, first year scholar) and Ben Brereton (Nottingham Forest, first year scholar) have scored 26 goals each, so Sambou's goal tally isn't that impressive compared to the other (younger) strikers in the league. He's recently been starting for the U21s and has only found the net twice, albeit in a struggling team.

From the pros currently at the club I'd say Cian Harries has a good chance of breaking through this year especially as it looks like Ramage, Johnson and Ricketts won't be kept on. He's fantastic technically but still needs to improve his physical game.

In the younger age groups there's Darragh Leahy (CB/LB, been offered a pro contract) who's captain of the U18s and has impressed with the U21s but is injured at the moment. We signed him from St Kevin's Boys, an Irish Junior club, about a year back. He also represents Republic of Ireland at U18 level.

I don't think he'll be near the first team next season but Kyle Finn (1st year scholar, wide player) is a very good player. He has that ability that I haven't seen in many of our young players and that's the ability to ease past a defender either side of them. Think he's got 8 goals from the wing this season and obviously goalscoring wingers are worth their weight in gold.

Sick Boy · Apr 5, 2016

Sky Blue Kid said:
http://www.coventrycity-mad.co.uk/news/tmnw/westwood__i_love_it_here_520663/index.shtml

I found this straight away, please note Westwood responding in his own words(Quoted)

I'm not sure if you understand the world of football.

Sick Boy · Apr 5, 2016

Grendel said:
Ranson said in an interview at the time he wanted to sell to raise a fee. relations soured.

I certainly remember that being the case.

steve82 · Apr 5, 2016

SlowerThanPlatt said:
Yes I do watch the U18s and U21s, I believe AGSB15 and AndyM (I think he's Maddison's uncle) do too but they don't post much anymore. If you want to follow then there's a U18/U21 development thread on here which is active.

No, he hasn't, in my opinion. The U18s league is a poor standard this year compared to previous years. He's a second year scholar and has scored 13 goals in the league, Ronan Hale (Birmingham City, first year scholar) and Ben Brereton (Nottingham Forest, first year scholar) have scored 26 goals each, so Sambou's goal tally isn't that impressive compared to the other (younger) strikers in the league. He's recently been starting for the U21s and has only found the net twice, albeit in a struggling team.

From the pros currently at the club I'd say Cian Harries has a good chance of breaking through this year especially as it looks like Ramage, Johnson and Ricketts won't be kept on. He's fantastic technically but still needs to improve his physical game.

In the younger age groups there's Darragh Leahy (CB/LB, been offered a pro contract) who's captain of the U18s and has impressed with the U21s but is injured at the moment. We signed him from St Kevin's Boys, an Irish Junior club, about a year back. He also represents Republic of Ireland at U18 level.

I don't think he'll be near the first team next season but Kyle Finn (1st year scholar, wide player) is a very good player. He has that ability that I haven't seen in many of our young players and that's the ability to ease past a defender either side of them. Think he's got 8 goals from the wing this season and obviously goalscoring wingers are worth their weight in gold.

Cheers thanks for the input there.

that's a lot of ccfc football you take in.
So his 13 goals is not really much in comparison if players in other clubs are notching 26. And I'm imagining a few of those were pens too. Is he to confident for his own good or poorly advised in your opinion.
I'm aware of cian Harris and leahy from Ireland.

chiefdave · Apr 5, 2016

Walsgrave said:
Guys he hasn't been at the club since under 11s; ironically I was playing for his Sunday League team at that time. In fact he wasn't actually signed up until Under 15s (start of Year 10), I remember it well as I was playing in the school game he got scouted in.

Great, so we'll only get £100K.

Deleted member 5849 · Apr 5, 2016

SlowerThanPlatt said:
and AndyM (I think he's Maddison's uncle) do too but they don't post much anymore.

Can't imagine why

Walsgrave · Apr 5, 2016

Tbf he hasn't featured in many games either so his goals to games ratio is still very impressive. I can't think of why he hasn't played that much, maybe injury?

Nick · Apr 6, 2016

Maybe Biggi should have a word with him? Same situation of coming from a different country at a young age, growing up in Coventry and coming through the ranks.

He could either show him how he now struggles to make the squad of a L1 team, or show him his bank balance...

rupert_bear · Apr 6, 2016

We have to accept we are very much a minnow club now, competing with the Rochdales, Scunthorpes and Chesterfields of the division for a mid table position. All clubs will know all the young prodigies of league clubs and if there's one real starlet at Cov or similar club the bigger fish will gobble them up cheaply, get them on their books, loan them out for a year or so see how they fare and take it from there. If for example this Kyle Finn looks the part in a year or two we will struggle to hang on to him when the pro. contracts are being dished out. We can all mention players who have moved up to a bigger stage and disappeared but then you can also look at Daniel Sturridge and he will probably say getting away from us was for him the right decision. For all these youngsters football is their living and earning as much as possible a real attraction, they are also normally very confident types who believe they have what it takes to be the next big star and Bassala Sambou will believe it too, and also believe being in and around better players will help not hinder. As said we are now very much a minnow club nowadays hard pill to swallow, and I fear will remain so unless our owners significantly change the way they run out club or the owners change. Anyone out there who doesn't believe what I have said I'll say two words, James Maddison, just 20 odd games but a bit of a dribble here, body swerve there, 3 or 4 goals and fresh from a busted ankle Norwich, bit of a small fry Prem wise shell out a few million for him.

Terry Gibson's perm · Apr 6, 2016

rupert_bear said:
We have to accept we are very much a minnow club now, competing with the Rochdales, Scunthorpes and Chesterfields of the division for a mid table position. All clubs will know all the young prodigies of league clubs and if there's one real starlet at Cov or similar club the bigger fish will gobble them up cheaply, get them on their books, loan them out for a year or so see how they fare and take it from there. If for example this Kyle Finn looks the part in a year or two we will struggle to hang on to him when the pro. contracts are being dished out. We can all mention players who have moved up to a bigger stage and disappeared but then you can also look at Daniel Sturridge and he will probably say getting away from us was for him the right decision. For all these youngsters football is their living and earning as much as possible a real attraction, they are also normally very confident types who believe they have what it takes to be the next big star and Bassala Sambou will believe it too, and also believe being in and around better players will help not hinder. As said we are now very much a minnow club nowadays hard pill to swallow, and I fear will remain so unless our owners significantly change the way they run out club or the owners change. Anyone out there who doesn't believe what I have said I'll say two words, James Maddison, just 20 odd games but a bit of a dribble here, body swerve there, 3 or 4 goals and fresh from a busted ankle Norwich, bit of a small fry Prem wise shell out a few million for him.

Teams like Norwich can afford to take the risk as if the Maddison move doesn't work out they will sell him onto some championship team and get most of the money back as the deal is probably not massive at the start and weighted towards success at the end.

Worrying this morning that none of few of the youngsters seem to have accepted the deals but the one word that stood out was agents, they are everywhere even my nephew who plays in the league below Nuneaton has one.

Moff · Apr 6, 2016

Terry Gibson's perm said:
Teams like Norwich can afford to take the risk as if the Maddison move doesn't work out they will sell him onto some championship team and get most of the money back as the deal is probably not massive at the start and weighted towards success at the end.

Worrying this morning that none of few of the youngsters seem to have accepted the deals but the one word that stood out was agents, they are everywhere even my nephew who plays in the league below Nuneaton has one.

That is worrying re agents. The football world has gone mad.

Sky Blue Kid · Apr 6, 2016

Sick Boy said:
I'm not sure if you understand the world of football.

You're right, I know f**k all about football. Much like you and Grenduffy understand f**k all about a man saying and being quoted in black and white he wants to stay. My argument is not in the end that he wanted to leave...He did! My argument is when he asked for the contract extention, and the CEO said he would "Get back to him with a offer" The CEO never did! Total disrespect in my eyes!

Moff · Apr 6, 2016

FFS this post is on Sambou, why do we have to keep harping back to arguments on Keiran Westwood.

Sky Blue Kid · Apr 6, 2016

Grendel said:
Wasn't he also omitted from one game as "his head wasn't right"? The press reports suggested Everton were the club but Westwood refused any contact to "consider his options" at the end of the season.

He was "Dropped" because he wouldn't "Toe the line"

CCFC88 · Apr 6, 2016

LB87ccfc said:
Could you expand on that please?

Why would it be Mowbrays fault? Why would it be SISU's fault? The lad can sign for who he wishes, hes not a professional footballer as no professional contract has been signed? this day and age money talks in football especially with agents who are only interested in making a quick buck for themselves and not entirely interested in what will happen to the player.

Why mention Leicester? over £100m pumped into them...

Dont happen to other teams..... errr yes it does.

And breathe, stop bashing the keyboard

Sky Blue Kid · Apr 6, 2016

Moff said:
FFS this post is on Sambou, why do we have to keep harping back to arguments on Keiran Westwood.

Shock horror! you mean this is the first post where the discussion has moved from one subject to another!?

jimmyhillsfanclub · Apr 6, 2016

I was looking forward to seeing this Sambou lad playing for us......now theres every chance we'll never see him play for anyone.....

...shame.

Next.

Moff · Apr 6, 2016

Sky Blue Kid said:
Shock horror! you mean this is the first post where the discussion has moved from one subject to another!?

No shock horror its the first time i was logged on for several days and saw it happen live. Is that ok with you or do you want me to stay online pemanently to watch what you Grendel and Sickboy post to each other.

Fucking hell its not a conspiracy, I have no beef with any of you I just am getting tired of the same old arguements.

I will step aside from this one now.

covcity4life · Apr 6, 2016

if he dont wanna stay then screw him

lets hopefully get 350k plus in tribunal and move on

Warwickhunt · Apr 6, 2016

TM does not sound a happy Bunny regarding 17/18 year olds demanding parity on first team regulars take the tribunal money and send them to the dead legs in the Premiership i say . TM says the one with their Parents looking after their interests will be the one who make it.

lewys33 · Apr 6, 2016

He will be on loan to Colchester in 2021.

Oz Howie · Apr 6, 2016

What Colchester from the National League!

Huckerby · Apr 6, 2016

Another Bigi in the making. He'll be playing for us in 5 years time when he's dog shit

georgehudson · Apr 6, 2016

as a 'clueless balloon'
thanks to the conceited bigots who aired those views,
is it possible to ascertain who the agent / advisors are for Mr Sambou, & are they suitable to act on his behalf ?

torchomatic · Apr 6, 2016

Absolute madness. Mowbray is right in his interviews and you can sense his frustration. Kids coming up through the Academy seem to think the minute they turn out for the development squads they have made it and are one step away from the Premiership. To be honest, I think the club can do without these kind of players. Jones has come in and shown how it should be done when you're a kid starting out.

Brylowes · Apr 6, 2016

Huckerby said:
Another Bigi in the making. He'll be playing for us in 5 years time when he's dog shit

Or he could stay here, and be playing for us for the next 5 years,when
hes dog shit.

Huckerby · Apr 6, 2016

Brylowes said:
Or he could stay here, and be playing for us for the next 5 years,when
hes dog shit.

Like Jones was at D&R?

Gazolba · Apr 6, 2016

torchomatic said:
Absolute madness. Mowbray is right in his interviews and you can sense his frustration. Kids coming up through the Academy seem to think the minute they turn out for the development squads they have made it and are one step away from the Premiership. To be honest, I think the club can do without these kind of players. Jones has come in and shown how it should be done when you're a kid starting out.

But we just got in an 18-year old loanee (Armstrong) who is now our leading scorer. So who can blame Sambou for being annoyed he has not been given a chance. He is not even on the bench when players like Fortune and Henderson are.

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Apr 6, 2016

Gazolba said:
But we just got in an 18-year old loanee (Armstrong) who is now our leading scorer. So who can blame Sambou for being annoyed he has not been given a chance. He is not even on the bench when players like Fortune and Henderson are.

tbf Armtrong is almost a year older than Sambou so he is a year ahead of Sambou in development, who is to say next season Sambou wouldn't be doing what Armstrong done for us if he stayed.

Also worth noting that Amstrong is exceptional for his age, he has been recognised as the standout English striker in the whole country for his age group for the last 3 or 4 years now. Sambou is just another player to come through a L1 academy

chiefdave · Apr 6, 2016

Gazolba said:
But we just got in an 18-year old loanee (Armstrong) who is now our leading scorer. So who can blame Sambou for being annoyed he has not been given a chance. He is not even on the bench when players like Fortune and Henderson are.

Not all players develop at the same rate. TM has been pretty clear, when he has moved up to U21s he's not played well enough to push for a first team place.

AFCCOVENTRY · Apr 6, 2016

Armstrong has been playing in the Newcastle U21s for a few years and is way ahead in development terms than Sambou.

Sambou is making a huge mistake and he will learn the hard way that he will end up on the football scrap heap.

If he doesn't want to commit to us then jog on.

Obviously playing for the club that spends years development you means nothing.

torchomatic · Apr 6, 2016

Gazolba said:
But we just got in an 18-year old loanee (Armstrong) who is now our leading scorer. So who can blame Sambou for being annoyed he has not been given a chance. He is not even on the bench when players like Fortune and Henderson are.

I think it's crazy to compare the two. And if a player is annoyed as you say then work hard and MAKE the manager pick you. His agent can only see as far as his cut of the signing on fee.

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aloisiwouldhavescored · Apr 6, 2016

Sambou should consider what happened to Conor Thomas and Bigi when they went to Premier League clubs, then look where they are now.

Calista · Apr 6, 2016

rupert_bear said:
We have to accept we are very much a minnow club now, competing with the Rochdales, Scunthorpes and Chesterfields of the division for a mid table position.

It's really hard, but in these last few months I've started to take that on board. Hanging on to the best youngsters is going to be almost impossible. Let's not forget that we all get excited when we see a chance to grab a talented player from even further down the pyramid. That's how it works, it's just so galling to realise how enormous the gap is now to the top flight. The TV money has escalated to such an extent that Premier League clubs can trawl through clubs like our and hoover up whatever talent they want using their loose change.

Deleted member 5849 · Apr 6, 2016

Calista said:
It's really hard, but in these last few months I've started to take that on board. Hanging on to the best youngsters is going to be almost impossible. Let's not forget that we all get excited when we see a chance to grab a talented player from even further down the pyramid. That's how it works, it's just so galling to realise how enormous the gap is now to the top flight. The TV money has escalated to such an extent that Premier League clubs can trawl through clubs like our and hoover up whatever talent they want using their loose change.

What's more of a shame is that when we were in the position to do the same, the best we came up with was Robert Betts!

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