We all want Bright to stay but if he plays over Bayliss in a number 10 role, Bayliss may become disgruntled and de-value at the same time.
Agree with the above about game time and a good rest etc. He's so good technically we need to keep developing the lad.
I wouldn’t have any of them there yet mate not to say in the future bayliss couldn’t become a proper centre mid but right now he’s not I would have another Liam Kelly type player in thereBayliss has scored 3 goals in 38 from central midfield this season
Shipley has scored 2 in his 4 games in the middle
I know who I would rather there
If we sign Bright permanently of course.I don't really care abut developing one player if it's detrimental to the team. Bright's value would increase with game time, so it's not as if we are guaranteed to lose money.
NO speed on the flanks?I wouldn't mind a 4-3-3 as mentioned above, mocked up this lineup for shits and gigs. Obviously this is before Jodi comes back.
Give Bayliss the freedom to burst forward knowing Kelly/Shipley/A.N.Other are behind to anchor midfield, with Bright and Jordy in inside forward roles as opposed to wingers (like the Mowbray season as someone mentioned). Can either have Baka like we do now or Biamou to occupy defenders, hold it up and bring people into the game. Can use fullbacks for width as we have done for a while. If we get a hard tackling midfielder in they can be the sole holding midfielder and have Bayliss and Kelly slightly more advanced, especially at home, for something more attacking.
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I don't think we can afford Baylis, Kelly and Bright in the same team. It leaves us light on midfield heavyweights. The form of Shipley in the Bayliss slot showed this, and he is not much of a heavyweight.
Best midfield in a 4-4-2 is the model of Peter Reid & Glen Hoddle Mexico World Cup 1986. A skilled guy and an enforcer. Ironically that was forced on Bobby Robson by Wilkins being sent off and Bryan Robson getting injured.
No he is not G.H. but that role is most obviously Kelly's. Now we need to acquire a hard case to operate alongside him and be a leader on the pitch.
I'd sell Bayliss, and wish we had this time last year, which was probably "Peak Bayliss". I'd keep Bright if we can, as he is outrageously talented for this league.
There is in league 1 mate lolFootball has evolved. Very few teams need a midfield 'enforcer', there is no need for 'heavyweights' and I don't think I have seen many teams employ this anymore. It is a very outdated view on CM's and football in general.
NO speed on the flanks?
I don't think we can afford Baylis, Kelly and Bright in the same team. It leaves us light on midfield heavyweights. The form of Shipley in the Bayliss slot showed this, and he is not much of a heavyweight.
Best midfield in a 4-4-2 is the model of Peter Reid & Glen Hoddle Mexico World Cup 1986. A skilled guy and an enforcer. Ironically that was forced on Bobby Robson by Wilkins being sent off and Bryan Robson getting injured.
No he is not G.H. but that role is most obviously Kelly's. Now we need to acquire a hard case to operate alongside him and be a leader on the pitch.
I'd sell Bayliss, and wish we had this time last year, which was probably "Peak Bayliss". I'd keep Bright if we can, as he is outrageously talented for this league.
There is in league 1 mate lol
Football has evolved. Very few teams need a midfield 'enforcer', there is no need for 'heavyweights' and I don't think I have seen many teams employ this anymore. It is a very outdated view on CM's and football in general.
I’ve seen our midfield bullied a lot this season mate by strong fit midfieldersReally isn't. Bar Sunderland with cattermole I don't remember any of the top 6 having an 'enforcer'
Bullied? We'll finish 8th and 12 of our 16 defeats were by a single goal.I’ve seen our midfield bullied a lot this season mate by strong fit midfielders
No1 is writing him off mate he has potential,this season He’s not been at the level of last season position change it could be down too.I personally think people over hype him too much though.he is still young tho he’s 20 bright is 21 but in the number 10 role Bright wins hands down.I'm amazed so many on here are writing off Bayliss already. He is very young, and there were many instances last season where he took the blame for moves breaking down when it was often a case that a few of his more limited team mates were simply not on the same wave length. It's one of the reasons I think he will successfully play at a higher level when he gets to play with better players. How high he goes will depend on his hunger and how well he learns from his playing experience, good and bad. As he turns from a boy into a man he will be physically stronger, and I fully expect him to prove a far more effective force next year, with this season's experience behind him.
We could of won the league & still been bullied in midfield mate.Bullied? We'll finish 8th and 12 of our 16 defeats were by a single goal.
No, we really couldn't.We could of won the league & still been bullied in midfield mate.
I'm amazed so many on here are writing off Bayliss already. He is very young, and there were many instances last season where he took the blame for moves breaking down when it was often a case that a few of his more limited team mates were simply not on the same wave length. It's one of the reasons I think he will successfully play at a higher level when he gets to play with better players. How high he goes will depend on his hunger and how well he learns from his playing experience, good and bad. As he turns from a boy into a man he will be physically stronger, and I fully expect him to prove a far more effective force next year, with this season's experience behind him.
Hard to imagine we'll finish 3 points of the play offs when our strikers couldn't score for shit all year, our midfield hasn't been good enough this season, Burge is L2 at best and Sterling has been on holiday for the last 2 months. Has Dominic Hyam really single handedly carried us to this point of the season?I think we all see he’s a talent and huge potential, I don’t believe anyone is writing him off. Even if he went on to win the Ballon d'Or in his career his performances for a bigger percentage of this season have been fairly open to criticism no matter if the future he may hold.
Some people seem to think that’s unfair, but let’s be honest they must still be high on the early summer nights air at Meadow Lane if they think he’s been good enough this season.
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The number 10 role that Bayliss has never played for us? You chat some absolute shite. Stewards telling you this, Thomas' Dad winking at you, Bright sending you a sky blue rimming on instagram, surprised you even have time to watch the games with all the gossip going on aorund you. Bright is a maverick talent, Bayliss has so much more to his all round game. There's absolutely no comparison between the two. Both of equal value. Bright has one position on the whole pitch he can play in and for periods he's been amazing but aside from consistency he's got nowhere to go. Bayliss has 3 or 4 position he could play in and will continue to improve as he develops physically. Selling him at this point in his evolution would be nuts.No1 is writing him off mate he has potential,this season He’s not been at the level of last season position change it could be down too.I personally think people over hype him too much though.he is still young tho he’s 20 bright is 21 but in the number 10 role Bright wins hands down.
Hard to imagine we'll finish 3 points of the play offs when our strikers couldn't score for shit all year, our midfield hasn't been good enough this season, Burge is L2 at best and Sterling has been on holiday for the last 2 months. Has Dominic Hyam really single handedly carried us to this point of the season?
Haha mate pointless giving it loads over the keyboard hiding behind a profile totally pointless calm yourself down,I enjoyed that tho lolThe number 10 role that Bayliss has never played for us? You chat some absolute shite. Stewards telling you this, Thomas' Dad winking at you, Bright sending you a sky blue rimming on instagram, surprised you even have time to watch the games with all the gossip going on aorund you. Bright is a maverick talent, Bayliss has so much more to his all round game. There's absolutely no comparison between the two. Both of equal value. Bright has one position on the whole pitch he can play in and for periods he's been amazing but aside from consistency he's got nowhere to go. Bayliss has 3 or 4 position he could play in and will continue to improve as he develops physically. Selling him at this point in his evolution would be nuts.
Not giving it loads. You think we could have won the league but been bullied in midfield all season - it's happened to no team ever and is a ridiculous statement. For a club that is blessed with such a wonderful academy, as a fan base we seem determined to write off, underestimate and not take into consideration a natural learning curve for many of our young players. They are our route back up the leagues and they are not getting valued by our own fans as they should. Several fans have written off all of our stars who have gone on to the PL and Champ in recent years. Wilson, Maddison, Christie, even Fleck and Clarke at Sheff Utd. Bayliss had 8 goals in 62 league games before he turned 20 and we're hypothetically selling him to a team who might go up to the PL this year, in exchange for a forward who struggles to cleanly strike a ball within 25 yards of goal, on his good foot.Haha mate pointless giving it loads over the keyboard hiding behind a profile totally pointless calm yourself down,I enjoyed that tho lol
Don’t wanna get involved in your little hoodoo. But can you elaborate on those 4 positions that Tom Bayliss could play in? Just out of interest.
Tell that to the team that got us relegated from league 1. Lack of strength, fight, and enforcement was a major part of it.
U23'slooking ahead to next season where does everyone feel his best position is ? League 2 he played right side narrow,this season he’s played centre mid I feel he’s struggled there,seems to me more of a free role type player but with Bright rumoured to be signing in that role where do we see bayliss fitting in ?
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