Londonccfcfan
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Dont get me started on him, but true he has no belief. Broken man, but we have no option but to support him.
In one word: Goal-keeper. I think the belief started high until we all realized Burge was not good enough. Then belief surged again when RCC came in and kept all those clean sheets. Then as soon as the run of clean sheets ended and the defensive players realized RCC was not good enough either, belief evaporated.
Post Gillingham at home. Though I think it was the opposite of lack of belief. Players started talking about promotion and then we were crap. I think a few got a bit cocky.
We had the game won and took our foot off the gas. We were indeed woeful in that second half.Analyse the Gillingham game properly we were on fire first half.
We were shocking 2nd half. They won the second half 1 nil, as soon as Ben Turner went off in around 60 mins completely lost the plot. The slide started there.
If we have to wait to long,it'll be to late.Being serious for a moment, a couple of good back to back results and we'll be flying again. Just hoping we don't have to wait to long.
We had the game won and took our foot off the gas. We were indeed woeful in that second half.
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We were 4 nil up against Crewe at half time, did we take our foot of the gas again then? As we wernt great 2nd half, they should have scored 4 goals second half.
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Just listening to 5 Live talking about Leicester and to fans and ex players etc. and so much of their success is being put down to belief. The confidence and belief to think you will win and are invincible.
I recall Dalglish saying the same about Blackburn when they won the league. Belief was their biggest asset.
We seemed to be very confident and had that belief ourselves.
Just wondering, can anyone pinpoint a defining moment when that belief was suddenly lost to us this season? Any one game, or did it just erode away over time.
Walsall at home maybe? And/or Burton?
Against Walsall we were winning and I think the players and TM thought we were strong enough to hold out for the win. Walsall had loads of possession and were really coming at us, but weren't creating any real clear cut chances.
I think that late equaliser knocked a lot of stuffing out of us, so, the Walsall game perhaps?
The Burton game we started off strongly, but the minute that first goal went in following Phillips' insane giveaway the match was lost. Our heads dropped and we looked a beaten side from that moment, so Burton perhaps?
Any one particular game you think, or just an erosion over a period of time?
Personally, if I were to pinpoint it to one game I would say Burton. As soon as we went 1-0 down it felt like we had been transported back to the Pressley and Thorn era where we looked clueless and beaten and with no answer.
The lack of fightback in that Burton game was a massive concern to me and then of course, in the last home game against Scunthorpe, it was truly boys against men.
What does everyone think? I am sure belief has formed a big part of what Walsall and Burton have done this season.
difficult to decide when. Sheffield U maybe?
We were very confident that day, despite not playing brilliantly. We were well in control and only a City victory seemed likely.
What transpired would surely dishearten any team.
If that's the case though, it shouldn't have been carried through to a number of subsequent matches.
In one word: Goal-keeper. I think the belief started high until we all realized Burge was not good enough. Then belief surged again when RCC came in and kept all those clean sheets. Then as soon as the run of clean sheets ended and the defensive players realized RCC was not good enough either, belief evaporated.
You are quite right Otis, but I myself felt really deflated after that game, it was like something changed, I literally had to stop thinking/dwelling about the match because it just felt so unjust, couldn't get it out of my head for a while.
We were very confident that day, despite not playing brilliantly. We were well in control and only a City victory seemed likely.
What transpired would surely dishearten any team.
If that's the case though, it shouldn't have been carried through to a number of subsequent matches.
For me the moment Turner got injured at home to Port Vale, was the turning point of the season so far. Totally disrupting our defensive line up and one we have yet to fully recover from, hopefully the 2 new loanees can now address the issue and we can reboot our season from here.
In one word: Goal-keeper. I think the belief started high until we all realized Burge was not good enough. Then belief surged again when RCC came in and kept all those clean sheets. Then as soon as the run of clean sheets ended and the defensive players realized RCC was not good enough either, belief evaporated.
For me the moment Turner got injured at home to Port Vale, was the turning point of the season so far. Totally disrupting our defensive line up and one we have yet to fully recover from, hopefully the 2 new loanees can now address the issue and we can reboot our season from here.
All our oxygen seemed to be sucked out the second Phillips gave away that howler. Interesting to note it was our first home defeat and after that, not only was that part of a 3 match losing streak, but also within that we suddenly lost 2 at home on the bounce.Interesting thread. I think its been a cumulative effect of a number of things over the last two months;
The silly goals v Doncaster, the injury to Turner and the last kick of the game goal v Oldham, the Sheffield United injustice....
But what really did it for me was when Phillips made that astonishing mistake to gift Burton their first goal, you just sensed the belief ebbing away from the players as they didn't remotely get close to getting back into the game. And we've been terrible ever since.
Just hope the defensive re-inforcements can kick-start the season. it may just take a scrappy 1-0 (so nearly achieved at the weekend) to get them going again.
You wanted them to wait until you were of not such a tender age?I think I always knew we would be crap when we sold Dennis Mortimer to Villa when I was about 12.
That might have helped, so that's a Yes.You wanted them to wait until you were of not such a tender age?
Can be a bit more specific? 12 1/2, 12 3/4, or are we talking more in terms of many months rather than weeks?That might have helped, so that's a Yes.
Just listening to 5 Live talking about Leicester and to fans and ex players etc. and so much of their success is being put down to belief. The confidence and belief to think you will win and are invincible.
I recall Dalglish saying the same about Blackburn when they won the league. Belief was their biggest asset.
We seemed to be very confident and had that belief ourselves.
Just wondering, can anyone pinpoint a defining moment when that belief was suddenly lost to us this season? Any one game, or did it just erode away over time.
Walsall at home maybe? And/or Burton?
Against Walsall we were winning and I think the players and TM thought we were strong enough to hold out for the win. Walsall had loads of possession and were really coming at us, but weren't creating any real clear cut chances.
I think that late equaliser knocked a lot of stuffing out of us, so, the Walsall game perhaps?
The Burton game we started off strongly, but the minute that first goal went in following Phillips' insane giveaway the match was lost. Our heads dropped and we looked a beaten side from that moment, so Burton perhaps?
Any one particular game you think, or just an erosion over a period of time?
Personally, if I were to pinpoint it to one game I would say Burton. As soon as we went 1-0 down it felt like we had been transported back to the Pressley and Thorn era where we looked clueless and beaten and with no answer.
The lack of fightback in that Burton game was a massive concern to me and then of course, in the last home game against Scunthorpe, it was truly boys against men.
What does everyone think? I am sure belief has formed a big part of what Walsall and Burton have done this season.
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