ccfcricoh
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Surely you would start JCH if he's better?
How many appearances did it take for Biamou to score his first? 20-25? Whilst I’m happy for Biamou, just because he’s hit form at the end of the season, doesn’t really change the aforementioned fact.
If we’re comparing the two, JCH has the same amount of assists in a third of the amount of games played. Yet, somehow, people are making the leap of faith that Biamou is somehow the catalyst for McNulty... It’s not Biamou has an assist record of 10-11 like Akinfenwa can boast!
If they play out a whole season with us, JCH scores more and makes more assists than Biamou. That’s what the statistical trends demonstrate.
I like Biamou, should start v Morecambe, and in the playoffs if he plays well on Saturday and we get there.
If the question is: JCH for £8k-a-week next season or Biamou for £2k-a-week then I'm picking Biamou. I'm a fan of JCH but he isn't worth that much, not cost effective at all. To take a baseball saying, I doubt his VORP (Value Over Replacement Player) is that high compared to Maxime.
How much would we get for him - a million?
Surely you would start JCH if he's better?
I have to admit I was drooling at the prospect of keeping JCH through to next season but given his recent performances I'm now not so sure. We certainly need a striker of his mould but whether he's the answer is something that is up for debate. Would love to sign John Akinde next season. He has a year left on his contract at Barnet so a fee would be required but it would be a sound investment as his record at this level is second to none.
It’d be a huge risk. He’s scored 6 goals this season... Certainly doesn’t seem to be the player he was the last two seasons for whatever reasons.
Max all the way on current form.
Is stronger on the ball - JCH goes down looking for the foul too much I think - and scores more ( mostly screamers too! ) Who thought we'd be saying that about him earlier in the season, then again most wouldn't have thought it about McNulty either!
Agree with all of that but still a question mark over attitude for me. On Saturday at half time, having blown Cheltenham away in a vital game, Hyam was out shaking everyones hand as they came off. Haynes and the much maligned Reid and Barrett? Congratulating everyone down the tunnel. JCH? Looking away doing up his shoe laces for longer than it takes my daughter. A tiny thing in the grand scheme, I appreciate, but can't help the feeling he thinks he's better than he really is.I dont get why people are writing JCH off either. He's been injured for a decent period and came in to give our season some momentum again. He might be slightly off the boil at the moment but this is his first sustained period of football in some time. He's proven himself in the championship and we should definitely not look at binning him off. A full pre-season knowing the system and the players and he will be a real asset.
You could be reading more into that than is needed though. They could have gone down the tunnel into the dressing room and he congratulated every single one of them. He does have the reputation as not being massively a team player but I think a bit of that is a good thing and a nasty streak is what we've missed in the side for too long.Agree with all of that but still a question mark over attitude for me. On Saturday at half time, having blown Cheltenham away in a vital game, Hyam was out shaking everyones hand as they came off. Haynes and the much maligned Reid and Barrett? Congratulating everyone down the tunnel. JCH? Looking away doing up his shoe laces for longer than it takes my daughter. A tiny thing in the grand scheme, I appreciate, but can't help the feeling he thinks he's better than he really is.
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I think he’s needed a rest. I really like the mean jch and he made a huge difference when he first came in and I think he can step up to league 1 with a pre season. I think ponti will step up. I am unsure about this team scoring enough goals without being gung-ho. However thinking of choosing from jones, andreu, jch, Biamou, ponti, McNulty and Kelly (the one playing further forward) next season excites me in league 1. I think we need to upgrade in other areas.I don't think JCH does bring a nasty streak on the pitch though. In his first couple of games he would put a shoulder barge in against the defender but not much at all since.
If anything, he is a bit too soft.
Completely ignores the formation we played in the first half of the season and the role Biamou was asked to play. We scored 21 goals in 21 games with our flat back 7. McNulty had 4 league goals in those first 21 matches. Since Bayliss came in and we've played around with more attacking formations, we've scored 43 in 24 games. Of course everyone who has played since then has more goals and assists.
How many appearances did it take for Biamou to score his first? 20-25? Whilst I’m happy for Biamou, just because he’s hit form at the end of the season, doesn’t really change the aforementioned fact.
If we’re comparing the two, JCH has the same amount of assists in a third of the amount of games played. Yet, somehow, people are making the leap of faith that Biamou is somehow the catalyst for McNulty... It’s not Biamou has an assist record of 10-11 like Akinfenwa can boast!
If they play out a whole season with us, JCH scores more and makes more assists than Biamou. That’s what the statistical trends demonstrate.
I like Biamou, should start v Morecambe, and in the playoffs if he plays well on Saturday and we get there.
I don't think JCH does bring a nasty streak on the pitch though. In his first couple of games he would put a shoulder barge in against the defender but not much at all since.
If anything, he is a bit too soft.
Completely ignores the formation we played in the first half of the season and the role Biamou was asked to play. We scored 21 goals in 21 games with our flat back 7. McNulty had 4 league goals in those first 21 matches. Since Bayliss came in and we've played around with more attacking formations, we've scored 43 in 24 games. Of course everyone who has played since then has more goals and assists.
He works defenders much much harder than Biamou - he’s always backing in and working and running them. That’s the biggest strength he brings.
Agree with all of that but still a question mark over attitude for me. On Saturday at half time, having blown Cheltenham away in a vital game, Hyam was out shaking everyones hand as they came off. Haynes and the much maligned Reid and Barrett? Congratulating everyone down the tunnel. JCH? Looking away doing up his shoe laces for longer than it takes my daughter. A tiny thing in the grand scheme, I appreciate, but can't help the feeling he thinks he's better than he really is.
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biamou play acts more than anyone on the other side of coin thoughThat's not a "nasty" streak is it? Especially when he goes down so easily.
I would think he was hugely disappointed with himself for his reaction in both games. So out of character too. Looks like he was lucky not to get a red in both games too. Thanks to stokes and Doyle and the refs.Yes you are reading a little bit too much into it. But there's no smoke without fire. To be fair I have been pleasantly surprised by his discipline so far
If anything Max has disappointed me with his attitude notably Notts County away half time booking and another talking to from ref last week.
And it's interesting how we look for little signs like this.
Completely ignores the formation we played in the first half of the season and the role Biamou was asked to play. We scored 21 goals in 21 games with our flat back 7. McNulty had 4 league goals in those first 21 matches. Since Bayliss came in and we've played around with more attacking formations, we've scored 43 in 24 games. Of course everyone who has played since then has more goals and assists.
Agree with all of that but still a question mark over attitude for me. On Saturday at half time, .............JCH? Looking away doing up his shoe laces for longer than it takes my daughter. A tiny thing in the grand scheme, I appreciate, but can't help the feeling he thinks he's better than he really is.
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Agree with all of that but still a question mark over attitude for me. On Saturday at half time, having blown Cheltenham away in a vital game, Hyam was out shaking everyones hand as they came off. Haynes and the much maligned Reid and Barrett? Congratulating everyone down the tunnel. JCH? Looking away doing up his shoe laces for longer than it takes my daughter. A tiny thing in the grand scheme, I appreciate, but can't help the feeling he thinks he's better than he really is.
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January 20th Biamou scored vs Swindon, not sure where you've plucked February 25th from, we didn't even play that day.Ok, but that still doesn't change the fact that Biamou has scored more goals off the bench than starting. He's started for 2 months straight when Bayliss came into the team. Yet, it still took him to the 25th Feb to open his league account, yet, Bayliss made his debut 16th December. Something doesn't quite sit right in your analysis there.
The stats speak for themselves. Anything else is based largely on conjecture, I've seen a lot that I like about JCH, he's unselfish, aggressive and he gets in some good positions. There's a lot I like about Biamou, too - he works defenders v hard, and he had a hand in at least 2 goals that won't go down as assists (Grimsby and Cheltenham at home). But, I think JCH looks like a better striker, I think if JCH was to hit a bit of form, I'd expect 10-15 goals in a full season. Probably about 8-12 assists, which for a striker is very good. I'm optimistic about his development.
January 20th Biamou scored vs Swindon, not sure where you've plucked February 25th from, we didn't even play that day.
My point is that during this period of 0 goals for Biamou, no-one was scoring much, we were averaging a goal a game as a team and they were coming from Jones and Nazon's individual moments of brilliance. McNulty who you've quoted as a special player in L2 scored 4 in those 21 games with 2 DMs. You're then comparing Biamou's statistics which include this period of awful defensive football to JCH's in a free scoring team and then using a projection to conclude JCH is a better player. Compare them both since Mansfield when JCH made his first start if you want a more level playing field as they have largely been used as a swap for each other within the same team.
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