Match Thread Birmingham City (H) - 7:45 Tue 23rd Nov (4 Viewers)

[Londonccfcfan]

Moore
Hyam - Fadz - Rose
Dabo - Hamer - Sheaf 🅰 (Motm) - Maatsen
O’hare
Godden 🅰 - Gyokeres ​

That teams gonna get promoted!

 

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[procdoc]

Kane has been decent but if you think he is ahead of Dabo you are kidding yourselves.

It's about time we gave someone a real thrashing and this could be the night. However, Birmingham are no mugs, carry a threat in Deeney if we make any silly errors. Could be a turgid affair if Brum park the bus.

I'd like to think we are too good for them, but the players must not assume they are unbeatable at home to this lot. See the bigger picture and concentrate. 100% effort and we will win. We need these 3 points before the next few difficult games.

Kane at the moment is playing far better than Dabo. He’s played over 200 games at this level and there’s a reason for that

 

[SkyblueDad]

Hmmm nah can't agree there, I like the balance of Maatsen on the left. Think he's constantly improving too. Wouldn't be the end of the world if Dabo lined up there though.

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Dabo is our best attacker coming from deep though tough choice for Robins

 

[Londonccfcfan]

Ridiculous to pass judgement on Kane just yet over just about half a dozen starts, when we have seen Dabo and hes proven himself over 2.5 years.

They are both good. Will pass judgement on Kane after a few more games.

 

[TomRad85]

Dabo is our best attacker coming from deep though tough choice for Robins

I have nothing against Dabo, at all, but I really can't think of a single justification for Kane being dropped. If I was him and I was dropped I'd be fuming.

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[Londonccfcfan]

Kane at the moment is playing far better than Dabo. He’s played over 200 games at this level and there’s a reason for that

Every chance Dabo will play will play alot more games than that at this level.

 

[TomRad85]

Ridiculous to pass judgement on Kane just yet over just about half a dozen starts, when we have seen Dabo and hes proven himself over 2.5 years.

They are both good. Will pass judgement on Kane after a few more games.

Most decided he was shit before he even played a game, so I'm more than happy to label him not shit, having seen him play a few games.

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[PVA]

MR definitely rates Dabo above Kane (rightly in my opinion) but I could see him resting Dabo for tonight and giving Kane a shot at winning the shirt.

 

[Londonccfcfan]

MR definitely rates Dabo above Kane (rightly in my opinion) but I could see him resting Dabo for tonight and giving Kane a shot at winning the shirt.

Add this argument to the long list of debates whos better.

Hyam or Rose
MaCallum or Giles...or Maatsen
Baka or Biamou
Dabo or Kane
Sheaf or Kelly
Hamer or Walsh....or James
Shipley or Allen
Walker/Godden or Waghorn.

Obsessed with comparing.

 

[TomRad85]

Add this argument to the long list of debates whos better.

Hyam or Rose
MaCallum or Giles...or Maatsen
Baka or Biamou
Dabo or Kane
Sheaf or Kelly
Hamer or Walsh....or James
Shipley or Allen
Walker/Godden or Waghorn.

Obsessed with comparing.

Discussing who you would like to see in the starting line up generally involves comparing, to be fair. But while we're here...
Rose but close
Maatsen
Both crap
Kane but close
Sheaf
Hamer
Allen
I flip flop on the last one but atm it's Godden

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[mr_monkey]

Add this argument to the long list of debates whos better.

Hyam or Rose
MaCallum or Giles...or Maatsen
Baka or Biamou
Dabo or Kane
Sheaf or Kelly
Hamer or Walsh....or James
Shipley or Allen
Walker/Godden or Waghorn.

Obsessed with comparing.

Hyam
Maatsen
Biamou
Kane
Sheaf
Hamer
Allen
Godden

 

[Warthog]

Add this argument to the long list of debates whos better.

Hyam or Rose
MaCallum or Giles...or Maatsen
Baka or Biamou
Dabo or Kane
Sheaf or Kelly
Hamer or Walsh....or James
Shipley or Allen
Walker/Godden or Waghorn.

Obsessed with comparing.

Rose
Mccallum
Baka
Kane
Sheaf
Walsh
Allen
Super Matt

No further debate required

 

[Liquid Gold]

Dabo is my favourite player but Kane doesn't deserve to lose his place. Maybe Dabo could have a few games rest and re-learn how to put a ball in the box.

Smack head eyes for the XI

 

[Liquid Gold]

I actually like the idea of having them both available.

Whoever starts should be told to go full pelt for 60 minutes then is swapped for the other.

So much of our play comes through the wingbacks, if the right side is constantly fresh and full of energy then we'll be much more of a threat.

Obviously there is a risk then that you need to make 3 subs due to injuries and your starting RWB is knackered before the end but then you just give them the day off on Saturday.

 

[jordan210]

My dog has been Sick 3 times today.

So im going for a 3-0 win

 

[Nick]

Dabo is our best attacker coming from deep though tough choice for Robins

Based on what?

 

[SBAndy]

I actually like the idea of having them both available.

Whoever starts should be told to go full pelt for 60 minutes then is swapped for the other.

So much of our play comes through the wingbacks, if the right side is constantly fresh and full of energy then we'll be much more of a threat.

Obviously there is a risk then that you need to make 3 subs due to injuries and your starting RWB is knackered before the end but then you just give them the day off on Saturday.

When Pochettino was at Spurs he made a big thing of having 2 full backs/wing backs for each side because they were so crucial to the play. I definitely think we’re in that arena and I’d even consider reducing cover in other areas to allow for it.

 

[harvey098]

Why? Is it first game of the season for proc doc and o’day?

out of interest, what was your previous username? (Based on the fact you seem to know a few things of old but only created this account less than a month ago)

 

[Warthog]

out of interest, what was your previous username? (Based on the fact you seem to know a few things of old but only created this account less than a month ago)

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Feeling really good about today.

3 nil to CCFC.

 

[Liquid Gold]

Me and the lads are getting together to clap the Birmingham coach in for being top lads for letting us have St Andrews.

We're meeting by the players entrance at 5:30, I'll be the one flying the BCFC flag out of my arse if you want to say hello.

 

[JonesBob]

Dabo is a one of my current favs, but against Sheff Utd his passing was way below his standard. Because he is such an important player for us he is always rushed back when he picks up a knock and consequently plays below his norm. On the other hand, Kane's crosses into the box were perfect but nno one there to get on the end of them. Subsequently I would play Kane.

 

[Grendel]

In what way currently is Dabo ahead?

In the same way Hillsner would be challenging O Hare I would assume

 

[Grendel]

Ridiculous to pass judgement on Kane just yet over just about half a dozen starts, when we have seen Dabo and hes proven himself over 2.5 years.

They are both good. Will pass judgement on Kane after a few more games.

Dabo is probably overall a better footballer but actually Kane is one of the squads most experienced players at Championship level and it shows. Its one of the best signings we have made in terms of cost against experience - Dabo is struggling for form

 

[stevefloyd]

If I was Dabo and was dropped I would seriously ask why having played out of his favoured position for the team but also agree Kane seems very steady on the right and definitely improves our chances of scoring with his crosses....over to you Mark

 

[covcity4life]

That teams gonna get promoted!

Jcs for rose for me

But yup our strongest other 10

 

[covcity4life]

Kane's looking good. Strength in depth is huge.

Not only an option for I juries but also impact subs and first 11 rotation

 

[clint van damme]

Most decided he was shit before he even played a game, so I'm more than happy to label him not shit, having seen him play a few games.

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I said in another post they play slightly differently and I think Dabo suits what Robins wants better.
But Kane is very good, probably our strongest position now with them pair competing for it.

 

[TomRad85]

I said in another post they play slightly differently and I think Dabo suits what Robins wants better.
But Kane is very good, probably our strongest position now with them pair competing for it.

Yes agree tbf, it's not like I'd kick off if either of them start. 2 good players.

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[Gibbo]

Dabo is probably overall a better footballer but actually Kane is one of the squads most experienced players at Championship level and it shows. Its one of the best signings we have made in terms of cost against experience - Dabo is struggling for form

Kanes's sweet little curve ball down to line to Vik that set up his charge into the box and a penalty againt Bristol has never had the acknowledgement it deserved

 

[Colin Steins Smile]

I wonder if both Kane & Dabo start tonight, as it's likely to be a physical battle with B'ham and MR might think Maatsen could be used in the last 20 mins.

 

[MusicDating]

Kanes's sweet little curve ball down to line to Vik that set up his charge into the box and a penalty againt Bristol has never had the acknowledgement it deserved

Probably cos it was Fadz...

 

[PVA]

I said in another post they play slightly differently and I think Dabo suits what Robins wants better.
But Kane is very good, probably our strongest position now with them pair competing for it.

Yes I agree with this.

Overall I think Dabo just edges it for me, and I think Robins too.

Kane is the better crosser, no doubt about it, but I think Dabo's overall game is stronger. If Dabo had Kane's crossing he'd be the best wing back in the league!

But whichever way you sit on the debate, it's a good dilemma to have, and better than the many 'who is slightly less shit out of Player A vs Player B' debates we've unfortunately had down the years!

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

If I was Dabo and was dropped I would seriously ask why having played out of his favoured position for the team but also agree Kane seems very steady on the right and definitely improves our chances of scoring with his crosses....over to you Mark

On the flip side Kane would be asking why he had been dropped as he has done nothing wrong and looked better than Dabo in terms of crossing. Arguably you should say Maatsen dropped out due to suspension and should have to wait given we got a clean sheet, but Maatsen is naturally left-footed and more capable going forward so it seems silly to leave him on the bench for someone who is playing on their wrong side.

I'm sure all three of them with get plenty of game time over the rest of the season.

 

[Jagmannn]

Goal feast tonight...4- 0 Sky Blues