Transfer Rumour Bobby Clark (2 Viewers)

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

Probably be like a 20m option lol

Well if he lives up to his potential that fee will be miniscule

 

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[Deity]

Circa £2m loan fee. No thank you.

We shouldn’t be using our relatively limited funds on one off costs to develop other clubs players.

I’d sooner spend £2m on a high potential foreign signing ….

 

[TomRad85]

Circa £2m loan fee. No thank you.

We shouldn’t be using our relatively limited funds on one off costs to develop other clubs players.

I’d sooner spend £2m on a high potential foreign signing ….

Agree. Absolutely no way should we be paying 2 million for a loan.

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[Terry_dactyl]

You must

You must have been watching very closely. Ayari played even less minutes there than he did here, wasn’t even in the squad for 3 games and his knob failed to score any goals. It looks as if Blackburn found him even more underwhelming than we did.

…Or not watching at all and letting my imagination run wild.
My ‘research’ tells me he seems to have started off badly there but may/may not have improved.

 

[StrettoBoy]

I like Kasey, he's "almost" a fantastic player but it was clear today that wide left is not his position,got to be Haji or Emc on the wide left (is it just me that thinks Emc is left side or nothing ?), Kasey will be used from the bench if he stays beyond the transfer window.
Regarding Bobby Clark,great prospect, it will be very late in the transfer window if we get him on loan.l won't be holding my breath tbh because it would be an expensive loan fee for a player we won't (potentially) Profit from,not Doug's m.o. I'm afraid.

I agree with all of that.

Kasey is a talented player who brings something different to our play but sadly he is a little prone to the odd mistake. Certainly useful for squad depth and as an impact player from the bench.

Bobby Clark would be a great loan acquisition but if he ends up in the Championship it will be with one of the richer clubs that has recently had Premiership money and is now getting parachute payments or with wealthy owners. My money is on Sheffield United if the takeover goes through.

We mustn’t forget that money talks in football and financially speaking we still have one hand tied behind our back. We have spent our windfall from Gus and Vik wisely and we really need to make it count this season.

 

[Winny the Bish]

This instead of Madsen? Or only if Vik doesn't get sold?

The only person who’s said we’re interested in Madsen is a random bloke on Twitter

 

[BlueSkiesForever]

I actually like seeing Palmer play, but he was pretty poor first half but was better second half.

I think that’s always been the issue with Palmer in the past, you’ll get a spell of decent play for 20 mins and he’ll look like he’s doing something creative with the ball but in reality when the game’s over, and he’s had a shit second half, you’ll realise that he contributed nothing all game. Yet because he had that decent 20-30 mins earlier on in the game, people think he’s semi-okay at this level.

I’d move him on if possible, sign a loanee or free agent for depth and hope they’re better than Palmer. I’m sure EMC could play if needed or we could switch the formation around in order to not play a Palmer-type player.

 

[shmmeee]

Loan fees for kids is a joke. You’re paying to improve someone else’s player. Loan fees should be banned entirely TBH. You can’t let big clubs suck up all the youth then allow them to charge extortionate fees for clubs to have them back.

 

[SwanLane]

Bobby Clark is a brilliant prospect. I’d love him to play for us. No chance he’ll come permanently and tbf, despite how good he is, it’s pointless spunking serious money on a loan fee for him.

 

[Happy_Martian]

Too young for me. 19, only 6 appearances for the Liverpool first team. Sounds like another Ayari loan for me.

We need a solid CM to support the talent that we do have in the middle.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

Too young for me. 19, only 6 appearances for the Liverpool first team. Sounds like another Ayari loan for me.

We need a solid CM to support the talent that we do have in the middle.

Likely to be some player if he's made 6 appearances for Liverpool by the age of 19.

 

[Diogenes]

Loan fees for kids is a joke. You’re paying to improve someone else’s player. Loan fees should be banned entirely TBH. You can’t let big clubs suck up all the youth then allow them to charge extortionate fees for clubs to have them back.

Just on that principle alone I wouldn't want to take him if they wanted a loan fee.

The monopoly that big clubs have on young players has to be broken.

 

[shmmeee]

Just on that principle alone I wouldn't want to take him if they wanted a loan fee.

The monopoly that big clubs have on young players has to be broken.

They always want to have their cake and eat it. If you buy the idea that the best method for developing talent is they go to the biggest academies then get experience lower down on loan (and I’m not saying I do agree with that), then you can’t just have frankly ludicrously low payments to clubs when you steal a player from them and make those clubs pay through the nose for the privilege of giving them experience in competitive football.

Either compensate clubs properly for stealing players they’ve identified and nurtured or have a system where the big clubs pay the wages and choose loan clubs based on what’s best for the player not their pocket books. Ideally both.

 

[rob9872]

Don't agree with loan fees either really, but if he genuinely is the missing ingredient that takes us over the line then it's chicken feed to premier league money.

 

[clint van damme]

Circa £2m loan fee. No thank you.

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How do you know this?

 

[Alkhen]

Don't agree with loan fees either really, but if he genuinely is the missing ingredient that takes us over the line then it's chicken feed to premier league money.

Not sure he is the miss ingredient, I'd say we need competition/back up for Sheaf over any other type of player in our midfield.

I'm totally happy to wait for loans until late in the window. I don't want to be paying fees to develop other teams assets.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

How do you know this?

I am sure there was some post ridiculously over priced about how much Hull paid to loan Carvalho in January.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

Don't agree with loan fees either really, but if he genuinely is the missing ingredient that takes us over the line then it's chicken feed to premier league money.

I am not sure any side gets automatic promotion without a loan from a Premier League team, especially without having ben in the PL recentIy. It's a question of getting the right one of course and this guy looks like it to me. Question is can we afford him.

 

[Happy_Martian]

Likely to be some player if he's made 6 appearances for Liverpool by the age of 19.

In the future, can fully agree with you. Transfermrkt showing 5 appearances last season but for 7, 7, 1, 12 and 60 mins. Another reason not to read number of games played as the only stat. Check minutes played, it's more definitive.

But for this season, when we need a higher level of experience, it's too early for someone like him. We tried it with Ayari and that fell flat on his face. Talented kid but looked scared on the pitch.

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

We’re one of a number of clubs interested in a loan move for the talented Liverpool CM youngster

Liverpool won’t rush decision over Bobby Clark’s future

Liverpool are in no rush to make a decision on Bobby Clark’s future in the face of strong interest from Red Bull Salzburg. The 19-year-old midfielder missed the current tour of the US due to a back problem but has since returned to training with the club’s under-21s at Kirkby. Austrian side...

www.nytimes.com

Can't see it happening, to many Clubs interested and 2m for a loan fee is a F**king joke, all the money the Premier League Club's get is a piss take.

Madesn is a better option, he will be our player so could be money to be made later on.

 

[long way home]

Doug is not going to pay a big fee for a rental with no chance of signing the player on a permanent basis. I really like the player but its not going to happen on the terms rumored.

 

[Perennial Lurker]

Just talking to a Scouse mate of mine , he said Bobby Clark is a proper number 8 , loves a tackle and is a bit of a hard nut . Very highly regarded by Liverpool Fc

 

[skybluegod]

Doug is not going to pay a big fee for a rental with no chance of signing the player on a permanent basis. I really like the player but its not going to happen on the terms rumored.

Is there no chance of signing permanently? If we had an option to buy dependant on promotion that could be a good deal. They want 12 million for a permanent, which if promoted (and he plays a key role in that is a potentially great deal).

 

[Winny the Bish]

Just talking to a Scouse mate of mine , he said Bobby Clark is a proper number 8 , loves a tackle and is a bit of a hard nut . Very highly regarded by Liverpool Fc

Yeah this is why I like him compared to other young loan players, he’s got that dog in him and likes the physical battle rather than shying away from it like most.

 

[robbiethemole]

19 years old, more likely to be Ayari #2 than the experienced head we need in there. Let someone else take the punt on him for £2m loan fee!!

 

[Deleted member 9744]

19 years old, more likely to be Ayari #2 than the experienced head we need in there. Let someone else take the punt on him for £2m loan fee!!

We have no idea that that is correct. See above there was a crazy fee mentioned in January about Carvalho going to Hull.

Also just because Ayari didn't prove to be a success hardly means all loans fail. Ask Ipswich if they work or think about Gyokeres, O'Hare, Sheaf, Doyle, Walsh etc.

 

[DannyThomas_1981]

All signings and loans are a gamble - albeit in our recent history a much better researched gamble.

In the worst case scenario, signing a young player for £2 million and then paying £600K every year for the next 4 years is a gamble - that player could flop and have no re-sale value. We're stuck with a player not featuring.

I do agree with the primary model of finding value with young players with very high potential ceilings - Wright, Simms, MVE as the best examples of this policy last year. We will make big profits on these players and early indications are that BTA, Rudoni and EMC will fall into the same camp.

Doesn't rule out selective loans though. If spending £2 million over the next 12 months results in raising our profile, adding that extra quality, having players on the same wavelength (for example another elite midfielder will make Rudoni even better) and ensuring we are play off contenders it simply pays for itself.

 

[mrfr]

Would be worth the £2m fee for the baby shark/Bobby Clark chant alone. Get it done Douglas.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

All signings and loans are a gamble - albeit in our recent history a much better researched gamble.

In the worst case scenario, signing a young player for £2 million and then paying £600K every year for the next 4 years is a gamble - that player could flop and have no re-sale value. We're stuck with a player not featuring.

I do agree with the primary model of finding value with young players with very high potential ceilings - Wright, Simms, MVE as the best examples of this policy last year. We will make big profits on these players and early indications are that BTA, Rudoni and EMC will fall into the same camp.

Doesn't rule out selective loans though. If spending £2 million over the next 12 months results in raising our profile, adding that extra quality, having players on the same wavelength (for example another elite midfielder will make Rudoni even better) and ensuring we are play off contenders it simply pays for itself.

Totally agree and as I keep saying we don't know that the £2million loan fee is true.

 

[Levship20]

Totally agree and as I keep saying we don't know that the £2million loan fee is true.

If the story were to be true and £2m was shelled out, it would certainly show the intention of DK (The Club)& MR along with his staff! A few years back we would be begging for this to happen.
He looks a very tidy player, so why not?

 

[The watchmaker]

Is there no chance of signing permanently? If we had an option to buy dependant on promotion that could be a good deal. They want 12 million for a permanent, which if promoted (and he plays a key role in that is a potentially great deal).

Only if we sell Sheaf you would imagine...

 

[Northeast sky blue]

Totally agree and as I keep saying we don't know that the £2million loan fee is true.

If true a loan fee of £2m seems a bit excessive, just think there's better value to be had from abroad

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

They always want to have their cake and eat it. If you buy the idea that the best method for developing talent is they go to the biggest academies then get experience lower down on loan (and I’m not saying I do agree with that), then you can’t just have frankly ludicrously low payments to clubs when you steal a player from them and make those clubs pay through the nose for the privilege of giving them experience in competitive football.

Either compensate clubs properly for stealing players they’ve identified and nurtured or have a system where the big clubs pay the wages and choose loan clubs based on what’s best for the player not their pocket books. Ideally both.

Especially as PL teams have a mechanism in place to hoover up other teams academy prospects for a pittance.

I've said it many times but 40 pro-player squad cap - no exceptions. Everyone else has to be released.

 

[The watchmaker]

Especially as PL teams have a mechanism in place to hoover up other teams academy prospects for a pittance.

I've said it many times but 40 pro-player squad cap - no exceptions. Everyone else has to be released.

I've advocated something similar but with a low wage cap outside of a core number rather than forcing them to be released. No problem with them employing thousands of 18 year olds but it ought to pay more to play for Doncaster than be nowhere near the first team for Man City.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

If true a loan fee of £2m seems a bit excessive, just think there's better value to be had from abroad

We have no idea if true and what sort of player from abroad could you get for £2 million, including presumably four years of salary? Would they be worth having?