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  • Start date Nov 14, 2016
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Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #36
Groves needs to knock him out here. He has it on points anyway.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #37
He's taking some punches well to be fair to him
 
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Hadji10

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #38
Groves has regressed massively. Had his chance in the first Froch fight. Will never win a world title.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #39
How come they rang the bell with ten second left?
 

bringbackrattles

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #40
Nick said:
Sorry I.didn't mean you. I meant his intro just kept saying energy eddie over and over
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I know I was being flippant ! As for the fight it was one sided but energy Eddie was tough. He beat Golovkin as an amateur, but that was years ago.
 
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bringbackrattles

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #41
Hadji10 said:
Groves has regressed massively. Had his chance in the first Froch fight. Will never win a world title.
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He gets caught easily especially late in fights. He comes across as a brawler.
 
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Hadji10

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  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #42
bringbackrattles said:
He gets caught easily especially late in fights. He comes across as a brawler.
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He's lost his fluidity, used to flow off the jab but now he looks wild and ragged. Gets stopped next time he steps up to world level.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #43
These 2 on now look like 12 year olds
 
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Hadji10

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2016
  • #44
The guy groves fought is in a coma.
 

bringbackrattles

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  • Nov 19, 2016
  • #45
Hadji10 said:
The guy groves fought is in a coma.
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That shocks me as he seemed fine. Just the closed eye nothing more.
 

eastwoodsdustman

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2016
  • #46
Noticed him keep wiping at his eye before it was bleeding. Seen it before when people have had blood clots on the brain. I hope hes ok. But his corner should have stopped it earlier.
 
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bringbackrattles

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  • Nov 19, 2016
  • #47
eastwoodsdustman said:
Noticed him keep wiping at his eye before it was bleeding. Seen it before when people have had blood clots on the brain. I hope hes ok. But his corner should have stopped it earlier.
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The ban boxing brigade will be loving this. You're right it just needs boxers cornermen and referees to see if a boxer has had enough,as many fighters won't quit.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 19, 2016
  • #48
Hadji10 said:
The guy groves fought is in a coma.
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Bloody hell, just woke up and saw it. He looked fine, was still going at him to the end.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2016
  • #49
Thats quite a few this year that have been badly injured this year. I'm not of the ban boxing club but I wonder with the ever increasing money involved whether the refs and trainers are feeling under pressure to keep the fight going as long as possible. I'd also add that we now know a lot more about bead injuries and concussion ,etc than we did even 3-4 years ago, and sports like football, rugby, NFL, etc are taking it a lot more seriously which has resulted in getting players subbed off quicker and missing the next game to enable them to recover fully. It would seem sensible that boxing reviewed some of this and their policies to if they haven't already.

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Gazolba

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  • Nov 19, 2016
  • #50
I just heard Jack Bodell died of dementia. Another boxing victim!
 
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Hadji10

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  • Nov 19, 2016
  • #51
Boxing saves far more lives than it destroys.
 
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Pipehitterz

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  • Nov 19, 2016
  • #52
Gazolba said:
I just heard Jack Bodell died of dementia. Another boxing victim!
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My Best mates dad is dying from that
In his 50s
Never boxed in his life
 
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Pipehitterz

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  • Nov 19, 2016
  • #53
Gazolba said:
I just heard Jack Bodell died of dementia. Another boxing victim!
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Seriously tho, 76 years old, are you really saying what you're saying.
 
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Pipehitterz

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  • Nov 20, 2016
  • #54
Anyone awake?
 
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Pipehitterz

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  • Nov 20, 2016
  • #55
Ouch
First round the lab nearly knocked him out his socks
Second round runs right into a big right.

Ward looks terrible so far, thought he'd do better, but said he'd been on his ass before, interesting to see if he can Dodge these punches
 
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Pipehitterz

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  • Nov 20, 2016
  • #56
Crazy Sport
Ward been better fighter since 3 rd round. carry on like this and it's a points win.
Kovalev very one dimensional, has speed and power but doesn't have any real skill set
 
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Pipehitterz

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  • Nov 20, 2016
  • #57
Woah by one round
The skills told in the end, don't think people can argue, Ward was so much better from 3rd round, so skillful , kov was hard as nails but low in skills , Ward did so Many more head shots, kov missed the target despite throwing more leather
 
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Hadji10

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  • Nov 20, 2016
  • #58
Kovalev won for me. Close fight though.
 
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Hadji10

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  • Nov 20, 2016
  • #59
Pipehitterz said:
Crazy Sport
Ward been better fighter since 3 rd round. carry on like this and it's a points win.
Kovalev very one dimensional, has speed and power but doesn't have any real skill set
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Kovalev has no skills? How much you drank mate?
 
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Hadji10

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2016
  • #60
Kovalev won 5 of the first 6 rounds quite clearly. Can't tell me he didn't win another round for the rest of the fight when he won the 10th convincgly. Not a robbery but it's a bad decision.
 
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Pipehitterz

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  • Nov 20, 2016
  • #61
Hadji10 said:
Kovalev won 5 of the first 6 rounds quite clearly. Can't tell me he didn't win another round for the rest of the fight when he won the 10th convincgly. Not a robbery but it's a bad decision.
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looking at the judges cards, thats exactly how they saw it

it could have gone either way, but yeah, kov just threw one twos one twos, and after the second, he hardly touched wards chin
ward would have won by knock out if he had any power, he had loads of head shots from 3 onwards
ward made kov miss badly once he'd woken up, kovalev missed his chance after the knockdown
still standing by me no real skills comment
 

SBAndy

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  • Nov 20, 2016
  • #62
Can't remember Kovalev landing a significant punch from about 5 onwards. All Ward had to do was pick point-scoring punches. How Lederman and Rafael had Kova 5 up going into 10.....I just could not fathom it at all.
 
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Hadji10

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  • Nov 20, 2016
  • #63
Kovalev won round 10 and 12 quite clearly, aswell 5 of the first 6 and a knockdown. Ward hugged and landed jabs all night and some body shots on the inside.
 
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Hadji10

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  • Nov 20, 2016
  • #64
Pipehitterz said:
looking at the judges cards, thats exactly how they saw it

it could have gone either way, but yeah, kov just threw one twos one twos, and after the second, he hardly touched wards chin
ward would have won by knock out if he had any power, he had loads of head shots from 3 onwards
ward made kov miss badly once he'd woken up, kovalev missed his chance after the knockdown
still standing by me no real skills comment
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You don't win multiple belts and have a P4P ranking based on no skill. Also you don't win 5 rounds against Ward having no skill. Kovalev won every single round against Bernard Hopkins, you don't do that without skill.

People look at his KO ratio, and like Golovkin people label them crude sluggers when they're far much more than that. Shame.
 
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Pipehitterz

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  • Nov 20, 2016
  • #65
Hadji10 said:
You don't win multiple belts and have a P4P ranking based on no skill. Also you don't win 5 rounds against Ward having no skill. Kovalev won every single round against Bernard Hopkins, you don't do that without skill.

People look at his KO ratio, and like Golovkin people label them crude sluggers when they're far much more than that. Shame.
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he has zero head movement and his defence is a hard chin
he didnt throw more than 2's all fight and they all came from the same angle
sorry bud, i know you like your boxing, but youre wrong about this crude slugger
 
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Hadji10

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  • Nov 20, 2016
  • #66
Pipehitterz said:
he has zero head movement and his defence is a hard chin
he didnt throw more than 2's all fight and they all came from the same angle
sorry bud, i know you like your boxing, but youre wrong about this crude slugger
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You're talking shit. Again.
 
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Hadji10

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  • Nov 20, 2016
  • #67
Pipehitterz said:
he has zero head movement and his defence is a hard chin
he didnt throw more than 2's all fight and they all came from the same angle
sorry bud, i know you like your boxing, but youre wrong about this crude slugger
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The crude slugger that most people had outpointing one of the finest technicians in the game? Go home you're drunk mate.
 
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Hadji10

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2016
  • #68
Oh and if you want to talk about defence, Kovalev outlanded Ward in 8 of the rounds, only threw sixty more punches than Ward, who's one of the best defensive boxers in the game . But yeah, he's not that skilled is he.

Seriously.
 
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Pipehitterz

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2016
  • #69
Hadji10 said:
Oh and if you want to talk about defence, Kovalev outlanded Ward in 8 of the rounds, only threw sixty more punches than Ward, who's one of the best defensive boxers in the game . But yeah, he's not that skilled is he.

Seriously.
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Knowing that you don't agree with anyone but yourself and your 'facts ' that you like quoting.
But i've never heard 'everyone ' quoting how tactician kovalev is, you must be listening to the Americans who had him winning by 7 lol lol lol lol
 
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Pipehitterz

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2016
  • #70
Oh and oh lol
Who won again?
Ward was it?

I must be the one 'not ' talking bullshit
 
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