That's not the way it plays out on here Nick... Whenever anything comes out of those organisations, its PR, but when it's CCFC or their owners.. different story
Is it? Really?
People knew ages ago Advent were doing their PR, it was discussed. It was also discussed how dog shite it was.
Check more recently. Everything from CCC/Wasps et al is considered PR, yet CA says anything, it must be true
PR machine
One man's PR Machine, is just another's standard PR practices. That argument has been done to death in the past, so best leave it there. I'm just looking for even-ness
No, Keiran said he disagreed with them. Written and misinformed by PR. His opinion was that they were BS. PR company were then sacked off.
I can mainly only comment on here as I see it more. I can also see there are people who post on the telegraph articles who resemble people who used to post on here.
So you don't see the irony in simon trying to have digs about things that are posted that are bs? If it was a normal fan I could understand it completely.
He gets touchy when you mention that.Maybe Simon will make a comment on the CT's deal with CCC to suppress stories.
Is it? Really?
People knew ages ago Advent were doing their PR, it was discussed. It was also discussed how dog shite it was.
So one is a PR machine and one is dog shite.
Maybe it's just to do with what they have to work with
You mean the one pretty much everybody on here agreed it was BS, now Keiren has said it was his opinion it was BS too.
I am pretty sure you can see the difference between a statement on a company website and one published in local media?
But Kieran admits that he thought it was bullshit
But still published it on the Ofgicial CCFC website as the club statement.
Yet people are telling us we should believe Kieran?
Yes, I'm sure it was never subsequently discussed outside the meeting....No, he said it >was< 'Total BS' he wasn't offering his opinion on it.
He also confirmed it was signed off by the board them knowing it was BS.
Said they did this following bad PR advice.....despite him not being in the meeting where it was discussed!
One went to a CCFC fans meeting and tried to make it out that there is no pr machine etc, meanwhile people from Wasps were signing up on here to do PR at CCFC fans...
The other have had dog shite PR for years.
Are you saying we shouldnt believe kieran? He didn't write it, he was asked to upload it. His name automatically goes on every article as hes the web editor (according to him on Twitter).But Kieran admits that he thought it was bullshit
But still published it on the Ofgicial CCFC website as the club statement.
Yet people are telling us we should believe Kieran?
People will believe who and what they want, I haven't told anybody to only believe ccfc and not anybody else.
The other one asked a select group of fans on here to meet with them. To inadvertently convince them of their side of the story with the hope they will do there PR on here for them.
You seem to be very lucky that no one involved with the club or their PR companies are on here doing PR.
I must say I am surprised they are not.
Yes, the other one had about 20 - 30 meetings with different CCFC fans.
Like I said, they could well be but they are keeping under the radar doing it and not standing out. Who knows who every single person is.
CCFC fans do a great job as Wasps PR, very strange.
Are you saying we shouldnt believe kieran? He didn't write it, he was asked to upload it. His name automatically goes on every article as hes the web editor (according to him on Twitter).
Wasps won't talk to us about the Ricoh, wasps and csf conspire behind our backs about the higgs, even simon said he didn't know until the day before. So Kieran says we've tried and tried and wasps won't talk to us. Seems to me the evidence is out there.
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Fair comment bar your last comment
Which I would say CCFC fans do a great job as PR for SISU (not CCFC) very strange
No need to panic though. The trust want everyone to get round the table and talk.
What's the alternative?
Yes, I'm sure it was never subsequently discussed outside the meeting....
Think we've been at war with everyone for years now, it's not gone well has it,Well that's a declaration of war really, isn't it.
And a friend of a friend told me wasps have a pr firm that have infiltrated this site, and turning any meaningful thread into bollox by chatting shit and diverting conversation from the real issues. Guess it's pretty obvious to everyone, pissing me off.
You suggested a good one, we instantly had people signing up to try and tell people not toObviously bothered people!
Ok mate.The only thing that's happened is you have just made yourself obvious to something by posting that on multiple threads???
Really? You see I can kind of understand why it might look like that as they own CCFC. Do people come on here and start promoting them for their other ventures and say "ay up, look at this takeover, top bit of work".
Of course it is strange that people would be doing Wasps PR for them, look at when they moved in. City fans preaching about it.
Yes I find that strange I agree and I also find defending SISU strange and encouraging people to back their decisions as ultimately they are what is best for the club as strange.
Encouraging them not to agree to rent deals but keep pushing further and further.
Encouraging them not to drop legal action.
Some people not only agree with their tactics but seem to revel in it and encourage it.
Such tactics will never end in a better future for CCFC so I find it strange.
I am not saying you are one of them.
Then when some criticise such actions, others point out that Wasps, Council or the Charity are worse.
Is that about your poll again that doesn't make sense? People voted for negotiations not to be interupted by Wasps because it's nowt to do with them.
It's like making posts saying how proud somebody is of the council, look how that is turning out.
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