dongonzalos
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If it is correct that they would control any administration then Unfortunately I concede
That you are correct. Death by 1000 cuts.
Looks like we will need to get behind the kids and hope they can cause a shock
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If it is correct that they would control any administration then Unfortunately I concede
That you are correct. Death by 1000 cuts.
Looks like we will need to get behind the kids and hope they can cause a shock
We did it in the early 80's under milne and Sexton ,guess what they sold em all!!!
Grendel
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We did it in the early 80's under milne and Sexton ,guess what they sold em all!!!
And they really were good.
Best team in a generation really ,should have propelled the future of the club on a successful basis for many a year ,who was chairman back then ,was it Pointon or did he come after,Common denominator lousy chairman
Grendel
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I believe (I don't know why) it was some guy called Ian Jamieson. Pointon was later.
Should have added the other common denominator was poor crowds ,often around the 13-14000 mark ,and then we had that cup run ,36000 in there for the cup game against West Ham ,You're right on the chairman a name that eluded me
dongonzalos
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We did it in the early 80's under milne and Sexton ,guess what they sold em all!!!
Yes unfortunately any kids who does well will be sold and replaced with a new one. My gut feeling is though division 4 would be the place where this approach maybe sustainable not division 3.
i think given our current standing it will become harder to attract quality kids allied to the change in rules on academies and the 90 minute rule
Grendel
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In the early 80's we sold a whole host of young players who all had already real experience and quality (in honesty a lot more than the current crop). We sold the lot to keep the club going and replaced them with a host of players from the 3rd and 4th tier of english football. We had one experienced player from the Premier (Div One then) who was hopeless.
We were bookies favourites to be relegated by Christmas.
We stayed up.
Spot the difference between then and now.
dongonzalos
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I think the he quality in the divisions is different now. Due to the increased money and the influx of foreign players
I think if West Brom sold their entire team tomorrow bar one of their stars and brought replacement from League one and two I think they would plummet,
I hope we can do it but I feel Div 4 i looming
rob9872
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We also had a reserve team to 'blood' them in and find out if they were ready for mens football. The gulf between kids and first team can not be underestimated.
I still maintain that the cost cutting exercise culminating in the decimation of the reserve team has been fundamental in our plight. Granted there have been times last season when we have struggled to fill one team let alone two, but losing the chance for out of form, injured and youth players to have gained invaluable experience or match fitness left a huge void.
I still maintain that the cost cutting exercise culminating in the decimation of the reserve team has been fundamental in our plight. Granted there have been times last season when we have struggled to fill one team let alone two, but losing the chance for out of form, injured and youth players to have gained invaluable experience or match fitness left a huge void.
ashbyjan
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Theres the big difference Duffy - then we replaced kids - albeit exciting talented kids - with experienced journeymen that we got the best out off. Today we are replacing experienced journeymen with untried untested kids to play in a tough uncompromising league because we cannot bring in anyone else due to the self imposed embargo. If things stay as they are we will be going down again.
1nilandwe...
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Nobody????
Its just about the new clubs we will be playing in league 1
skybluejelly
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the other difference is back then our first division wages were a big leap for the players coming in..now we cant even afford our own third division wages hence why we sell anyone whos on a remotely good contract.
dongonzalos
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sorry missed your post
There's some rewriting of history going on here. Not important for today obviously, but it needs to be said that John Poynton, who seems to be taking a bit of flak was chairman when we won the cup, you can see him behind as Killer lifts the cup. There is a tale behind the mass exodus of the young crop of players in the 1980s, Gary Thompson was apparently very well liked by all the other players. He was sold to pay bills as crowds were pathetic, sometimes as low as 8,000 + . It sparked mass transfer requests and unrest from the likes of Danny Thomas, Paul Dyson, Gary Gillespie (who was being chased by Liverpool anyway), Whitton, Hateley & others. Then, as now, fans didn't turn out in sufficient numbers to make the club financially stable. They wanted a great team but they weren't great supporters. If you've got £10 in your pocket, you can't buy a Bentley.
We got good money for lots of players then. And Bobby Gould came in and as someone rightly pointed out, he battled against the odds with some 'journeymen' players to keep us up. Something that the likes of the much hyped Hadji & co (decent footballer as he was) couldn't do.
& Iain Jaimeson, nearly 200 league appearances for the club, board member, chairman. He deserves a little better. As does Gordon Milne, manager of the club for almost ten years.
Let's not write off these guys from yesteryear, in hindsight back then looks like much better times to me.
We got good money for lots of players then. And Bobby Gould came in and as someone rightly pointed out, he battled against the odds with some 'journeymen' players to keep us up. Something that the likes of the much hyped Hadji & co (decent footballer as he was) couldn't do.
& Iain Jaimeson, nearly 200 league appearances for the club, board member, chairman. He deserves a little better. As does Gordon Milne, manager of the club for almost ten years.
Let's not write off these guys from yesteryear, in hindsight back then looks like much better times to me.
TheRoyalScam
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I may have been a bit dismissive of Jaimeson Snoz the memory fades and of course i'm aware that Poynton led us to Wembley ,there was another dissapointing aspect to the loss of Hately that we barely had a season out of him and the skates nicked him for a pittance through a tribunal ,we all new he was a £1m.+ player and going to play for England. It should'nt be forgotten that Milne was excellent and we were two minutes from getting to wembley, then if i'm correct he got moved upstairs and Mercer came on board with Sexton as coach it was a great set up undone by poor attendance and obviously lack of resources.