http://www.ccfc.co.uk/news/article/club-statement-butts-park-arena-ground-3117777.aspxStandard Reply, you do realise it is CRFC not SISU?
This thread is really showing how some place more importance on being anti SISU than they do being supportive of CCFC.
25,000 minimum is required.
Bluff, Bluff, Bluff
Very strange post, considering you never read posts either properly, or look back(Research what posters have said in the past.) I have indeed said if SISU showed "Proper intent" I would consider going to games again. Have a look back at my posts..... Oh, but you don't do things like that do you?
I'm not saying bluff, I'm saying Jon Sharp has been shown a few pound signs and has got a little bit too excited. He'll get stitched up by these sharks for sure, it will end in tears all round. I think SISU know the council will block it though and therefore paint themselves as the bad guys. I go to CRFC and CCFC and I wouldn't say that area could manage very easily 15000 fans on a matchday if it got to that level.
I'd be happy with 15K with a definite plan as to how it could go up to 25K. Ricoh is 32K of which 6K are away, even without allowing for the ridiculous segregation that's straight away down to 26K home fans. You only have to provide 10% of capacity so in a 25K stadium we could have 22.5K home fans, only 3.5K less than the Ricoh which we virtually never sell out.
I'm not saying bluff, I'm saying Jon Sharp has been shown a few pound signs and has got a little bit too excited. He'll get stitched up by these sharks for sure, it will end in tears all round. I think SISU know the council will block it though and therefore paint themselves as the bad guys. I go to CRFC and CCFC and I wouldn't say that area could manage very easily 15000 fans on a matchday if it got to that level.
They're firming up stadium plans, the city council want to work with them to firm them up.
Why aren't you pleased?
I'd be happy with 15K with a definite plan as to how it could go up to 25K. Ricoh is 32K of which 6K are away, even without allowing for the ridiculous segregation that's straight away down to 26K home fans. You only have to provide 10% of capacity so in a 25K stadium we could have 22.5K home fans, only 3.5K less than the Ricoh which we virtually never sell out.
So you believe it ?
It's playing games and deflecting the fact they have no plan.
I feel sorry for those that believe it and actually run with it !!
Coventry City and Coventry Rugby Club draw up plans for ground share at Butts Park
It's all the "SISU Bluff" comments that make me laugh even though it was CRFC who put the news out there in the first place. Italia is just being...well Italia.
Italia is just being sensible. You start putting the SISU flags up ................ I'll wait.
But as ever, we're getting bogged down in finances, whereas the cultural benefits are a no-brainer.
Have you not taken them down from before then?
So what is in it for CRFC?
A battle for the additional incomes ??
Yes, a no brainer, chuck it out and stay at the Ricoh until it's first shown that this, or a new stadium, is better long term option than staying exactly where we are.
Thank you for your e-mail concerning the above mentioned matter.
I have now liaised with my instructing officer, Nigel Clews of Place Directorate and can confirm that the Council is still happy to proceed with the deed as detailed in your e-mail.
The Council would however wish to raise one issue following recent items in the local press suggesting that professional football was coming to the Butts Arena. I suspect that this is not the case however the Council naturally wants to protect its position as well as the Rugby Club.
It is suggested that we look to add a new clause 12 to the Licence which make a variation or agreement/acknowledgement between the parties that the reference within clause 13.1 of the lease to “any other leisure and sporting activities and uses” shall specifically exclude professional association football or training associated therewith.
I would welcome your comments on the above and hopefully we can agree some wording.
Julie Sprayson – Place Team
Resources Directorate – Legal Services
IIRC Barcelona did exactly that and extended their capacity by some 10-15k.All we do is build further down the pit a bit like Sunderland.
The deeper you can go with the stadium then capacity can increase in the restraints.
Altough of the tide turns with results and promotion then our gates will be much higher than now.
Also...how long would the work take to develop a new ground at the Butts? 4-5 years once plans approved to build?
We could be in the Championship or Premiership hypothetically? Would that give the developers enough time to change capacity plans?
15k capacity would be fine in Div 1 and has the potential of creating a positive atmosphere for the club [if we get behind the team!]. However, the challenges are:
a] Car parking and transport to the ground.
b] Having capacity to expand ultimately up to 30k if in the Premier league.
c] The details of any joint venture between CRFC & CCFC. Will SISU want to own the stadium and let it to CCFC?
There wasn't any parking at HR. It's a city centre site with many car parks quite close by. There are ample transport links such as buses and trains.
Not that hard really SBWM. My health determines I can no longer work. Five, maybe ten minutes research usually suffices. It's also not that hard to actually know what you're attacking posts for! Simply read rather than attack because you don't like a posterI'm a busy man SBK...I don't have time to search through previous posts. I post when I can and comment on what I see in front of me. Well done for having all the time to do so though.
Chufty badge on the way.
Maybe so, but there will be more provision around the Butts than HR. Trains and buses and city centre car parks. Can't see the issue really.tbf, HR was there before planning (and people driving to games... or even owning cars for that matter!) became such an issue.
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