Nick
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Who has bent over backwards?
Weird really, some are that loyal they celebrate court cases.
I haven't yet responded to your post the other day but will do. But here, you imply there is equivilance between the two.
Our situation is like us losing 4-0 and some of our fans blinded by loyalty that they blame the ref or wrongly claim the oppo have cheated. The council and Wasps have bent over backwards to help us but some people are so blinded by entitlement that they swallow the Sisu/Les Reid bullshit about CCFC being the wronged party. We're as much the wronged party as Peter Sutcliffe.
Not sure if that’s aimed at me or others.
If me, all I’m guilty of is wanting the best for CCFC...not ACL, not CCC, not Wasps, not SISU.
I obviously don’t want Cov taxpayers to get stung for any more cash, but out of the shower of shit above, CCFC are the only ones I care about.
If that makes me embarrassing, hands up...guilty as charged.
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Nearly every action taken by SISU has been a misjudgement at best, generally wrong, and sometimes downwright malicious.
But that doesn't mean that CCC or Wasps are innocent.
The sale of ACL by CCC, although prompted by SISU actions, for which I have no sympathy, was spiteful.
Just because someone is less wrong doesn't mean that they are right.
Wasn't aimed at you. More at those who think it's bizzare CCFC fans are CCFC biased.
Nearly every action taken by SISU has been a misjudgement at best, generally wrong, and sometimes downwright malicious.
But that doesn't mean that CCC or Wasps are innocent.
The sale of ACL by CCC, although prompted by SISU actions, for which I have no sympathy, was spiteful.
Just because someone is less wrong doesn't mean that they are right.
I’m not sure what the comment regarding Swansea means as my point is the council backed the club in difficult times. How many tax payers are against it - hope that’s a different source to the one about wasps free tickets.
Forest support occurred in the early part of the century so once again why you are deflecting from the point and talking about 12 years later who knows?
Ipswich dispute as I say meant the club had to pay a whapping £115k a year while at the same time we were paying £1.5 million
Seems you care more for the council than ccfc
All of the abive is very correct.
However on here if you dropped down from Mars knew nothing about the history and read this forum, you would assume that Wasps had shafted CCFC the most, followed the Council, followed by a charity and a Newspaper. Some of the previous people who ran the club. Then fans who don’t turn up and finally our current owners.
The council were dreadfully culpable in my eyes of selling the Ricoh to Wasps and it was a shocking traitorous move.................all that said though, it only occurred after that prick Fisher said we were on our way and building our never never land stadium ! Real Culprits = 80% SISU, 20% others { Plus of course the mismanagement which messed us up back in the 90's }could you point out who has said it's all the councils fault?
Do you think they haven't contributed at all to this mess?
Considering the organisation employed by the council actively encouraged sisu to bid for the football club because they wouldn’t want to purchase the share of stadium.
Why didn’t they help before then rather than tie them to an unworkable financial arrangement.
The other problem of course was that obnoxious tosser running Higgs.
Were they falling over themselves to help us before SISU then? Or were they falling over themselves to help themselves?
His facts are always estimated mate, and some won't beleive written proof when "Quoted" either.
Again with the BS. That isn’t even a half fact. It’s just plain wrong.
Promotion is priority for Coventry City, says Ray Ranson
“The Ricoh
SISU plan to take up the Sky Blues' option to buy back half of the Ricoh Arena from the Alan Edward Higgs Charity.
But there are no plans at this stage to acquire the city council's half.
"We have a very good relationship with ACL," said chairman Ray Ranson.
"Daniel Gidney and John McGuigan have been very supportive and we thank them for that.
"There is an option to acquire a 50 per cent share holding by way of acquiring the football club and we fully intend to take up that option and move forward and develop the relationship.
"I don't know when that will happen but let's get the priorities sorted out, trying to get the team up the league and, dare I say it, promotion, and we will worry about that later.”
Brilliant Tony you quote Ranson
What next.
“We are debt free”
“This club will be stronger when we leave”
I like this one
“Yes we sold Fox and Dann but have signed Richard Wood and Chris Hussey who are better”
Using a lying tosser like ranson as your evidence
Oh dear.
Again with the BS. Here’s what Ken Taylor actually said at the time
Directors to give verdict on takeover bids
Nothing like what you’re saying but then again no one is probably surprised by that.
I’m amazed you have the nerve to call anyone a lying tosser with all the spurious BS you talk.
That’s interesting Tony. How much of any of that was achieved by the actual buyers. Also why in the prior post claim sisu were looking to buy yet would not have fulfilled the criteria?
Do you accept the other bid that was rejected was quoted as higher but derisory as the bid was going to mean Higgs selling their share - yes or no?
Do you accept sisu are here as Gidney wanted them as they fulfilled tenancy criteria abs he knew Ranson - yes or no?
Gordon Bennet Tony, our team had a fantastic away result today and all you can do is gripe over past history nobody can change SMHI’m well aware that Ranson and Gidney knew each other and for a long time before either of them were involved with either ACL or SISU. But then again I never dismissed that when you brought it up did I? What I dismissed is your claim that SISU were preferred bidders because they didn’t want any form of ownership of ACL. That’s BS. You know it although you pretend not to and I know it and have called you out on it and provided evidence to prove it. You dismiss Ranson and you make up spurious claims of what Ken Taylor said which I’ve dismissed. If you truly believe he said what you’re saying he said prove it. I think we both know that you can’t but if you do I’ll happily admit that you’re right and apologise for doubting you. Now be a good little boy and run along to google. Try not to be too disappointed though when all you can find is quotes that dismiss what you claim was said. There’s enough of them.
Gordon Bennet Tony, our team had a fantastic away result today and all you can do is gripe over past history nobody can change SMH
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Anyway I’ve broken my rule and let Tony out the box.
I observed his humiliation at the hands of Mr Trench on the Euro thread and the fact he was the only one who failed to comprehend his delusion.
He has produced two links that directly contradict each other. Rather than go through comment after comment with Tony doing his best Captain Mainwaring impression - I really can’t be bothered.
Gordon Bennet Tony, our team had a fantastic away result today and all you can do is gripe over past history nobody can change SMH
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Umm guess I might be sidekickI forgot to ask. How do you know my first two names?
Again with the BS. That isn’t even a half fact. It’s just plain wrong.
Promotion is priority for Coventry City, says Ray Ranson
Who has bent over backwards?
Weird really, some are that loyal they celebrate court cases.
Who has bent over backwards?
Weird really, some are that loyal they celebrate court cases.
The Council and Wasps.
To be very clear, I have no loyalty to our owners and I specifically want to see them lose their legal challenges.. They have forefeited my loyalty through their unreasonable actions. The fact I'm a CCFC fan doesn't mean I want their disgraceful off-field actions to succeed, even if we as club benefit as a result. That's why I have been delighted at every court defeat and why I have my fingers crossed SISU lose in the court of appeal.
Earlier up this thread, Duffer seemed to imply that the identity of the villains depends on your point of view. Wrong. It's black and white - SISU are the bad guys and they've screwed over everyone else. Nobody else in the saga has put a foot wrong. I can understand fans being so blinded by loyalty to CCFC that they can't see this, but I happen to be able to view it impartially (nor have I got any connection to the city of Coventry, its council, the Higgs, Cov Rugby, Wasps etc). Remove the loyalty to CCFC and you'll see what has really gone on.
The Council and Wasps.
To be very clear, I have no loyalty to our owners and I specifically want to see them lose their legal challenges.. They have forefeited my loyalty through their unreasonable actions. The fact I'm a CCFC fan doesn't mean I want their disgraceful off-field actions to succeed, even if we as club benefit as a result. That's why I have been delighted at every court defeat and why I have my fingers crossed SISU lose in the court of appeal.
Earlier up this thread, Duffer seemed to imply that the identity of the villains depends on your point of view. Wrong. It's black and white - SISU are the bad guys and they've screwed over everyone else. Nobody else in the saga has put a foot wrong. I can understand fans being so blinded by loyalty to CCFC that they can't see this, but I happen to be able to view it impartially (nor have I got any connection to the city of Coventry, its council, the Higgs, Cov Rugby, Wasps etc). Remove the loyalty to CCFC and you'll see what has really gone on.
The Council and Wasps.
To be very clear, I have no loyalty to our owners and I specifically want to see them lose their legal challenges.. They have forefeited my loyalty through their unreasonable actions. The fact I'm a CCFC fan doesn't mean I want their disgraceful off-field actions to succeed, even if we as club benefit as a result. That's why I have been delighted at every court defeat and why I have my fingers crossed SISU lose in the court of appeal.
Earlier up this thread, Duffer seemed to imply that the identity of the villains depends on your point of view. Wrong. It's black and white - SISU are the bad guys and they've screwed over everyone else. Nobody else in the saga has put a foot wrong. I can understand fans being so blinded by loyalty to CCFC that they can't see this, but I happen to be able to view it impartially (nor have I got any connection to the city of Coventry, its council, the Higgs, Cov Rugby, Wasps etc). Remove the loyalty to CCFC and you'll see what has really gone on.
How have they bent over backwards for CCFC? No foot wrong at all?
Again, hardly impartial when you are celebrating court cases.
The club wasn't bankrupted by the Ricoh deal. With a rent if just over £1m a year, club was making losses of over £6m a year. The rent deal was fair and reasonable. Sisu tore up a valid lease and the deserve all the consequences they get for that unforgivable act.Sisu were always going to be loooking for a fast buck and to leave
I’ll say it again - the ONLY reason sisu are here is twofold;
One the club was bankrupted by the unworkable arrangement it had
Two the council WANTED them here - Gidney introduced Ranson as the preferred bidder (remember this guy thought F and B alone was worth £24 milliion) as and his merry chums knew they were the only ones who would happily pay as tenants in the short term.
He and acl were only ever interested in the club funding his project in the short term as in the long term he thought he’d have a business rival to the NEC and the club then would be surplus to requirements.
None of that is ccfc bias - it’s just fact.
I celebrated because right won out over wrong. The best analogy i can come up with, is you can be a fan of Jeffrey Archer's novels but also want to see justice done by him being convicted if perjury. Being a CCFC fan doesn't blind me to right and wrong.
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