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CA: Lease Extension At Higgs Ignored (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Jun 1, 2016
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armybike

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  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #141
fernandopartridge said:
I agree with you for once, a request for a comment from Breed would've helped.
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Oh my days! We've found common ground.

There seems to be a general consensus that all bad feelings need to be put to one side and answers sought - this article could have achieved that if Breed had been asked/pressed for an update on their position.
 

sky blue john

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  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #142
Nick said:
But the Higgs / Council do have interest in CCFC?
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I'm sure they used to !
It doesn't look like it now though does it.
Maybe they are fed up with court action at every turn and think this is the only way to end it by cutting all ties ?
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #143
Nick said:
So now both need to be pushed to find out who is bullshitting? Whether it is the club or CSF they both have questions to answer.

2 completely different statements, somebody is lying.

I did predict he would say the club was leaving though and refer to newspapers
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Predictable and a waste of time, it was obvious they would just continue to say the club said they were moving out (which was about 18 months ago now) and ignore that for the last 6 months we have repeatedly said we want to stay
 
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Buster

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  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #144
Nick said:
So on one hand you say they aren't conspiring against CCFC and the next bit saying who on earth would work with them, which is basically the first bit you said you wouldn't believe?
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If somebody is hated by everybody ,its not a conpiracy. There just no good!
 

stupot07

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  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #145
chiefdave said:
Think its very telling that the response from CSF makes absolutely no mention of any possibility of the academy remaining at Higgs.

Said earlier in the thread who cares what happened last March. Since Anderson has been here, which was prior to CSF taking ownership of the centre, the message has been consistent from him. That he wants the academy to remain at Higgs.

Simple question for CSF to answer. Can the academy stay or not?
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I think from the latest statement, the door is firmly closed.

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chiefdave

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  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #146
Si80 said:
About the idea? I mean wtf?!?
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You've missed off a key part of that quote.
“In fact, discussions were held with CSF not too long ago about the idea of using the Academy as part of a long term vision for the centre – e.g., the use of the club’s sports science staff as part of the community benefit mission of the Higgs Centre.
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Where he's saying part of the long term vision for the centre he's distinguishing between the centre itself and the academy based there. The suggestion being that the club allows its resources to be used for the benefit of the community in line with the objectives of the centre.
 

torchomatic

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  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #147
Buster said:
If somebody is hated by everybody ,its not a conpiracy. There just no good!
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There will hopefully come a point where the love of Coventry City will supercede the hatred of SISU.
 
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eastwoodsdustman

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  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #148
Considering that its a supposed 'fresh start' on both sides with new people involved, there still seems to be a spectre hanging over the whole saga for some reason. Someones pulling the strings on one or both sides and putting the spanner in the works on it.
 
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Chipfat

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #149
Sadly we have Sisu in charge who have single-handedly pissed off every possible avenue they can go down while in control of the club. Certain People and Organizations will not work with our owners, in fact they will work twice as hard within the laws to make it so hard for Sisu to shit without paying for it. They want Court costs paid back, they want court cases to stop as they feel its been going on to long with the same result been found over and over again. No trust, no communication and worst of all a complete dislike for Sisu by the parties that matter.

Now is this right? is this fair on Sisu? to be honest my opinion is its probably not, but sisu are a common denominator in every balls up this club has and is still going through. These are now crying about the fact all that could and should help are turning their back and saying this ship has sailed!!!! remember that TF classic, eating his words now the idiot. Great idea to break a rent deal and move the club out of the city and now cry nobody helps us in our city. He didn't care that Northampton wasn't in the city then? and that is the problem. Sisu need the city when it suits them and for people outside the club who don't care about football would see the same.

We as fans are being used in a very obvious and disgusting way and all parties now are fighting each other without a care to what happens to the club and its fan base, all should be ashamed of what they have done in the last 9 years to this club. This problem will not go away until Sisu leave, pay up or decide they will forget about court and focus the energy's on running the club.

I fear for this club, it's sad to watch time go by with it being stripped and broken to the point when in the end we will have nothing, Sisu no matter what have to take this part of the collapse and except decision's made by them have cost them money and maybe us a club.
 
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eastwoodsdustman

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  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #150
sky blue john said:
I'm sure they used to !
It doesn't look like it now though does it.
Maybe they are fed up with court action at every turn and think this is the only way to end it by cutting all ties ?
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Why should the CSF worry about court action by SISU against CCC. CSF are an independent charitable trust according to their website.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #151
armybike said:
Oh my days! We've found common ground.

There seems to be a general consensus that all bad feelings need to be put to one side and answers sought - this article could have achieved that if Breed had been asked/pressed for an update on their position.
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He was.
 

chiefdave

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  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #152
CCFC said:
Predictable and a waste of time, it was obvious they would just continue to say the club said they were moving out (which was about 18 months ago now) and ignore that for the last 6 months we have repeatedly said we want to stay
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I'm guessing something that was sent in by CSF rather than a two way conversation as the obvious response if it was Reid / Gilbert actually talking to them would be to question why they are referencing statements made years ago but making no mention of the more recent dialogue with Anderson around the academy staying long term.

Worries me that this seems very similar to how the Ricoh deal was done. On the one hand CCC were talking to CCFC and saying in the press that trust could be built up etc while at the same time they were agreeing a deal with Wasps. This seems exactly the same. CSF talking with CCFC and saying in the press that the door is open while in reality a deal is done with Wasps and CCC.
 
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armybike

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  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #153
olderskyblue said:
Must admit, I thought you were suggesting they do what Nick has suggested they do. approach both sides...
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That's exactly what I was suggesting. This should have been done before going to print with one side of the story.
 
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Rodders1

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #154
I'm hoping that the council and Higgs are playing the long game where they are trying to get SISU to sell the club. Once new owners are in place then everything will be different. CCC will do anything and everything to get the club back to the top. Butts Park Development - of course great idea....... Need the road infrastructure changed - of course no problem. Etc etc....

I know this is pure fantasy but this is all I've got to cling onto in terms of our clubs future. Sad times.
 

sky blue john

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #155
torchomatic said:
There will hopefully come a point where the love of Coventry City will supercede the hatred of SISU.
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Hopefully for some there will come a point when they realise that Sisu are no good for our beloved club. Because currently some still blindly follow them in the name of CCFC.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #156
Rodders1 said:
'm hoping that the council and Higgs are playing the long game where they are trying to get SISU to sell the club.
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That worked well the last time they tried it. We ended up in Northampton with a huge points deduction.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #157
sky blue john said:
Hopefully for some there will come a point when they realise that Sisu are no good for our beloved club. Because currently some still blindly follow them in the name of CCFC.
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No one thinks SISU are good for Coventry City.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #158
Rodders1 said:
I'm hoping that the council and Higgs are playing the long game where they are trying to get SISU to sell the club.
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Yes, because there will be a long queue of people to buy without an academy or stadium.
 
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SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #159
chiefdave said:
Simple question for CSF to answer. Can the academy stay or not?
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They won't answer, they will continue to ignore the football club, maybe string them along by telling them there is a chance and they will put out there copy and paste statements anytime a question is asked. When the lease is up they will move CCFC out and wasps in and we will be fucked again.
 
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Rodders1

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  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #160
Nick said:
Yes, because there will be a long queue of people to buy without an academy or stadium.
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Only need one. Surely there would be one consortium wanting to invest in a club based in a city with a population of 300k and no other rivals? There is definitely potential.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #161
sky blue john said:
Hopefully for some there will come a point when they realise that Sisu are no good for our beloved club. Because currently some still blindly follow them in the name of CCFC.
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No they don't, now fuck off idiot
 

chiefdave

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  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #162
Rodders1 said:
Only need one. Surely there would be one consortium wanting to invest in a club based in a city with a population of 300k and no other rivals? There is definitely potential.
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If you were a fan of the club with millions to spare you would have already tried to buy it. If you weren't a fan of the club but fancied owning a team we would be right at the bottom of the list.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #163
Rodders1 said:
I'm hoping that the council and Higgs are playing the long game where they are trying to get SISU to sell the club. Once new owners are in place then everything will be different. CCC will do anything and everything to get the club back to the top. Butts Park Development - of course great idea....... Need the road infrastructure changed - of course no problem. Etc etc....

I know this is pure fantasy but this is all I've got to cling onto in terms of our clubs future. Sad times.
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I hold the same hope but don't believe it will happen. The council can no longer distinguish between the club and its owners. I don't believe the councils attitude would change even with an ownership change now. If the ownership change had happened 3 years ago then maybe the councils attitude would have changed but too much has gone on now.
 

sky blue john

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  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #164
CCFC said:
No they don't, now fuck off idiot
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Lol !!
How do you expect our club to achieve anything or work with anyone whilst carrying a big albatross on our back namely Sisu ?
 

sky blue john

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #165
CCFC said:
I hold the same hope but don't believe it will happen. The council can no longer distinguish between the club and its owners. I don't believe the councils attitude would change even with an ownership change now. If the ownership change had happened 3 years ago then maybe the councils attitude would have changed but too much has gone on now.
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Lol again !
Off course they can differentiate between
the club and Sisu its you that seems to have the problem managing it.
 

Si80

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #166
chiefdave said:
You've missed off a key part of that quote.

Where he's saying part of the long term vision for the centre he's distinguishing between the centre itself and the academy based there. The suggestion being that the club allows its resources to be used for the benefit of the community in line with the objectives of the centre.
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I didn't miss that bit off as it wasn't there for me to quote by Stupot. But thanks for clearing it up.

Edit to add. Good idea by CA /CCFC, give the rehab team some people to look after other than Reda
 

Skyblueweeman

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #167
chiefdave said:
Applies even more when you're talking about councils and charities who should be able to rise above and operate in the best interests of the city. I can't see how the long term damage being done to the club is in the best interests of the city.
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And for me Dave, this is the most important element of this whole saga. The club will be here much longer than SISU. There's dozens of thousands of people in the city who have some form of vested interest in a club that has been an integral part of the city since 1883.

To assist in it's demise because of personal vendettas is a sorry and sad state of affairs. The way the club are going, we'll cease to exist in 5 years. SISU can take half of the blame and ride off into the sunset. The custodians of the city would have a relatively unhappy portion of the cities population to consider for decades to come.

Back on topic, the Trust need to approach the CSF immediately to press for a reaction and set up meetings with some form of mediation. If Steve or CJ or Jan is reading this...please get on the phone to the CSF and ask the question...I just feel like the clubs last functioning vital organ is about to be cut off...
 
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covmark

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  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #168
sky blue john said:
Lol !!
How do you expect our club to achieve anything or work with anyone whilst carrying a big albatross on our back namely Sisu ?
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Of course it also doesn't help when the local council, a franchised rugby club and local charities are falling over themselves to fuck the club over.

But hey, Sisu out!! etc

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SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #169
sky blue john said:
Lol !!
How do you expect our club to achieve anything or work with anyone whilst carrying a big albatross on our back namely Sisu ?
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Nice try to deflect you babbling baboon, you said some blindly follow but it doesn't happen.

Now fuck off back to the hole you crawled out from prick.
 

sky blue john

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  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #170
covmark said:
Of course it also doesn't help when the local council, a franchised rugby club and local charities are falling over themselves to fuck the club over.

But hey, Sisu out!! etc

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I totally agree Mark,
But I honestly can't see a future for our club with Sisu at the helm.
 
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armybike

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  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #171
CCFC said:
Nice try to deflect you babbling baboon, you said some blindly follow but it doesn't happen.

Now fuck off back to the hole you crawled out from prick.
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I'm guessing you weren't part of the debating society at school.
 
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skyblueinBaku

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  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #172
armybike said:
I'm guessing you weren't part of the debating society at school.
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He probably was for a short time and then got banned.
 
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SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #173
armybike said:
I'm guessing you weren't part of the debating society at school.
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Tried that approach on here over the last 5 years, waste of time.
 

sky blue john

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #174
CCFC said:
Nice try to deflect you babbling baboon, you said some blindly follow but it doesn't happen.

Now fuck off back to the hole you crawled out from prick.
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You should have shown this much fight when joy had you last bent over sticking it to you with a big strap on !!!!
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2016
  • #175
Told you, looks like sky blue john went to the same debating society I did. Waste of time with certain posters.
 
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