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fatso

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Is a 2.7% cut “stripped to the bone”?

And you are asking for that, because you aren’t identifying where else the money should come from.

Fire hydrants are built for domestic fires not this. If you want a system that can handle these events you have to oversupply. And then you’d be on here moaning about waste instead.

But again I’d agree we should be spending far more on both climate change mitigation and the ability to respond to fresh weather. Hard sell under Trump though.
My understanding is it was a further 2.7% cut on top of previous cuts to the same department.

The hydrants are in built up areas and are to protect life and property, obviously they'd have no chance of stopping the inferno, but they can assist firefighters in getting to trapped homeowners before the fire takes over. Hence potentially saving lives if not property.

I'm sure this disaster will bring up many topics for debate, such as the lack of fire breaks, and over development in a high risk area, shortage of water, and the time it took to trigger evacuation etc.
 

shmmeee

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My understanding is it was a further 2.7% cut on top of previous cuts to the same department.

The hydrants are in built up areas and are to protect life and property, obviously they'd have no chance of stopping the inferno, but they can assist firefighters in getting to trapped homeowners before the fire takes over. Hence potentially saving lives if not property.

I'm sure this disaster will bring up many topics for debate, such as the lack of fire breaks, and over development in a high risk area, shortage of water, and the time it took to trigger evacuation etc.

Reading this the main causes seem to be increased climate change, human activity, and development in high risk areas in that order.


I just find it interesting that you ignore the biggest cause because it’s not politically convenient for you and instead go after minor issues that are.
 

fatso

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Reading this the main causes seem to be increased climate change, human activity, and development in high risk areas in that order.


I just find it interesting that you ignore the biggest cause because it’s not politically convenient for you and instead go after minor issues that are.
Not at all, it's just within the remit of the LA politicians to deal with the financial matters affecting the fire department.

Global warming is beyond their remit, and isn't going to improve during their time in office.
 

robbiekeane

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extreme winds, a very very wet start to 2024 meaning and abundance of vegetation growth, and then a very dry and mild winter....receipe for disaster.

No need for tin foil hats or finger pointing, everyone has done everything they could and there is no water system in the world that could deal with these kind of fires
 

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