Can you blame Thorn today? (1 Viewer)
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Nick
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It isn't logic it is being balanced? Thorn makes great decisions and changes and people say he has done really well, so why not say he made bad choices when he does? I have praised him for his choices in the last few weeks, today they were wrong..
Would tiredness even be mentioned if we had won or drawn? Would injuries have come into it?
Of course sisu and the players are to blame, but Thorn has to take his part of the blame the same as he does with the praise. Was anybody praising that guy who came in to deal with transfers who got Nimely and Norwood in when we were winning?
Mary_Mungo_Midge
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Yeah - you don't think it's a bottom three team / squad! Look at the level of investment. Facts tell you it is.
You're entitled to your opinion, but it flies in the face of facts
skybluegod
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why are you guys blaming thorn it's not his fault we have a load of shit and unexperienced players if anyone we should blame the people who call themselves owners thorn took us on the longest unbeaten run in 8 years is what cwr said. I mean how can you blame the one person who cares about the club (who is part of the backroom staff) who has got us playing good football and has done well with a very young,poor squad with no support from the owners.
also if anyone thinks protests outside the ricoh help think again the dont go to games they dont give a shit about cov and nobody in the midlands cares about us we're there rivals if anything you need a good old trip the sisu HQ to protest
also if anyone thinks protests outside the ricoh help think again the dont go to games they dont give a shit about cov and nobody in the midlands cares about us we're there rivals if anything you need a good old trip the sisu HQ to protest
sylus
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why not blame thorn..fuck blame everybody now...sure thorn has had is hand tied,,by our brilliant owners..NOT!! with players..sure we have had a slight glimmer of hope just recently with the unbeaten run...but defensively we have been very poor...and given a week or two outside the bottom 3..thats where we have been..the bottom 3.. ALL FUCKIN SEASON..so go thorn..and sisu..do one to...
Astute
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I have said he should have taken Platt off instead of Cody. There you go again only reading what you want. Who could a team as low down the table as Brizzle bring on? They could make 6 changes. How many could we make? You would make me laugh, but not in the mood for laughing.
SISU have done a good job of splitting the fans. Some seem to be blind to what they have done. Don't matter though, because whenever we lose we can blame AT for everything
SkyBlue_Bear83
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You can say he got decisions wrong with he definitely has at times.
Although imo the squad is definitely bottom 3 material, today we had about 6 senior players and one of them is Platt who is limited and a league 1 player.
stupot07
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Ah must be nonsense if Marcus doesn't agree....
Nick
Administrator
Wasn't fantasy changes, McSheffrey wasn't injured...
Of course we had no choice to put Christie on for Hussey who has been playing with a knock, but we still could have put Nimely on earlier.
Mary_Mungo_Midge
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Yes. They would have come into it, as to win against a team who's able to make six changes to freshen things up, whereas we're shuffling our pack of mediocrity would have been an even greater achievement
DazzleTommyDazzle
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I think they would have been brought into it by sensible posters.
I've been pleasantly surprised by our recent run but have been so worried about injuries as we have no cover.
Hence we have to play players who are not fit, while our opponents use their squad strength to make SIX changes.
But no, it's all AT's fault despite the amazing backing he's been given by those kind SISU people.........
DazzleTommyDazzle
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Mary_Mungo_Midge
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Nimely hasn't been effective in recent games. At any other club he'd have been dropped for a breather. What makes you think he'd have done much today? Ah, I remember, hindsight!
He's a good young player. Badly needs a rest though
DazzleTommyDazzle
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The Nimley who was carrying a knock and wasn't fit enough to start or a different Nimley?
Nick
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I have said he should have taken Platt off instead of Cody. There you go again only reading what you want. Who could a team as low down the table as Brizzle bring on? They could make 6 changes. How many could we make? You would make me laugh, but not in the mood for laughing.
SISU have done a good job of splitting the fans. Some seem to be blind to what they have done. Don't matter though, because whenever we lose we can blame AT for everything
I'm not reading what I want, of course I know SISU are to blame for the squad but when the same squad is playing well and winning nobody even mentions them. It doesn't really need to be said that a lot of the blame is at SISU's door does it? Just because I say AT should have done this or that, doesn't mean the players or SISU are 100% blameless. I just don't see why AT is amazing when we win but SISU are wankers when we lose.
Yes, they could make 6 changes but so could Hull if they wanted to and we still beat them didn't we?
Even if we had 11 youth teamers on the pitch, he should still have gone for it at 2-1 down. If we lost we would have lost but tried.
Nick
Administrator
So if he was so unfit why did he bring him on at all when it was too late? The same as bringing on Eastwood when we were losing against Forest even though he was too unfit.
stupot07
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Because Cody was injured?
sw88
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Marcus Hall just commented that Thorn appears too nicey-nicey with the players. Is suggesting our players have become complacent as they know if they cock up it will go unnoticed? Wasn't this the opposite to Boothroys who tries to put some discipline in place and therefore ran out of the club by the unhappy players?
DazzleTommyDazzle
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Because he has bugger all options.
torchomatic
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And what does Marcus Hall know about anything related to Coventry City?
Astute
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So if he does well it is because of him being amazing, but if we lose it is because of SISU? What about the posts where people have said how good a scout he is for finding Nimely and Norwood and how the form has changed. Try reading......we all know you don't want to comprehend what you don't agree with.....AT is not blameless, but why is he shit after taking us to a 7 win unbeaten run with a hard run of games.
What about the posts saying how we just needed to be patient as Thorn is learning on the job and now we have come good. See last comment
I personally don't think our team / squad is bottom 3, I have also said Thorn has done well and made some great decisions so why can't I say I think he got it wrong today with his changes and tactics? So you must think a lot of our very small squad. Get real. Not enough experience and not enough players. I was quietly worried on how the younger players would handle the pressure today. You could feel how tense it was. Means nothing to you though does it? Just blame it all on AT
What about the posts saying how we just needed to be patient as Thorn is learning on the job and now we have come good. See last comment
I personally don't think our team / squad is bottom 3, I have also said Thorn has done well and made some great decisions so why can't I say I think he got it wrong today with his changes and tactics? So you must think a lot of our very small squad. Get real. Not enough experience and not enough players. I was quietly worried on how the younger players would handle the pressure today. You could feel how tense it was. Means nothing to you though does it? Just blame it all on AT
SkyBlue_Bear83
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Because people like you would scream " Fucking change it Thorn, clueless" and then ignore the facts if we are told he wasn't fit enough to play?
Paxman II
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I concede the squad is thin but just looking at today, that performance had little to do with it.
We have been riding high for 7 games and confidence good.
We weren't undone by a thin squad today. Those same players Bigi, Nimely have been past of that recent good run.
I agree with Marcus hall saying when you cross the white line you are not feeling tired.
Poor tactical subs and the inability to change it earlier (and there were options) cost the game.
One thing though it ain't over by a long chalk. Think we will win the two at home and a draw at Burnley and defeat at Southampton. 46 point total. Enough? Doubt it will be. We probably need to win at Burnley tbh. Bristol are facing a couple of difficult fixtures but have a another win in them. Very difficult now.
We have been riding high for 7 games and confidence good.
We weren't undone by a thin squad today. Those same players Bigi, Nimely have been past of that recent good run.
I agree with Marcus hall saying when you cross the white line you are not feeling tired.
Poor tactical subs and the inability to change it earlier (and there were options) cost the game.
One thing though it ain't over by a long chalk. Think we will win the two at home and a draw at Burnley and defeat at Southampton. 46 point total. Enough? Doubt it will be. We probably need to win at Burnley tbh. Bristol are facing a couple of difficult fixtures but have a another win in them. Very difficult now.
Astute
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Big difference this time. We just had 2 games in 48 hours. I know you won't understand though. YOU NEED SOMEONE TO BLAME. THAT IS CLEAR.
Who was fit today? Who played with a knock or two? You seem to know none of the players carried knocks or injuries.
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Nick
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So if he does well it is because of him being amazing, but if we lose it is because of SISU? What about the posts where people have said how good a scout he is for finding Nimely and Norwood and how the form has changed. Try reading......we all know you don't want to comprehend what you don't agree with.....AT is not blameless, but why is he shit after taking us to a 7 win unbeaten run with a hard run of games.
What about the posts saying how we just needed to be patient as Thorn is learning on the job and now we have come good. See last comment
I personally don't think our team / squad is bottom 3, I have also said Thorn has done well and made some great decisions so why can't I say I think he got it wrong today with his changes and tactics? So you must think a lot of our very small squad. Get real. Not enough experience and not enough players. I was quietly worried on how the younger players would handle the pressure today. You could feel how tense it was. Means nothing to you though does it? Just blame it all on AT
I havent said he was shit, just that he made mistakes too! Also said mcsheffrey shouldnt have bothered.
I have also said how thorn has done good things and made great decisions in the last few weeks.
I dont think our squad is as poor as people make it out to be, if it was as bad as some say we would have lost 4 or 5 nil every week
dongonzalos
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Yes if you have been put in the circumstances where you are expected not to win then when you don't then that is what was expected. When you do win and it is a surprise then you get credit.
Same bunch of players battered and bruised trying to play 2 games in three days.
There is someone who needs criticism. The people who left us with a squad where we do not have the players to bring on to ensure a draw.
Astute
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Is this a true fact or just your opinion? 2 games in 48 hours, our opponents changed 6 out of 10 outfield players. Pissing down with rain so not the easiest pitch to play on either.
Astute
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Show me anyone that says AT don't make mistakes and I will show you countless that know our squad is too small. We can't do squad rotation. We have to play players with knocks. We have no fit cover at LB for instance. Yes, we have decent players, but how were they supposed to all make the whole season without loss of form or injuries.
Otis
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How on earth can you say we weren't undone by a thin sqaud today, Paxman? Seems so clearly apparent that this was the case.
oldskyblue58
CCFC Finance Director
Didnt go to match so hard to comment really on today. Maybe substitutions could have been sooner maybe Thomas or Bell should have been on the bench academic really if the passion and desire to go out and actually beat a poor team isnt there. Wouldnt blame him for the substitutions but surely he had some input as to how we set up for the match, surely he had some input in getting the squad mood right, surely he can gee his players up? etc. So yes he shares some of the responsibility.
Certainly SISU havent got it right but they dont play the game for the players we do have, or set the managers tactics etc and as a fan I expect passion and desire from the team and manager, I expect them to battle and get at the opposition, I expect them to attack (the squad is good enough to do all that its basics) - have seen that too few times from both this season. Yes he shares some of the blame
Certainly SISU havent got it right but they dont play the game for the players we do have, or set the managers tactics etc and as a fan I expect passion and desire from the team and manager, I expect them to battle and get at the opposition, I expect them to attack (the squad is good enough to do all that its basics) - have seen that too few times from both this season. Yes he shares some of the blame