Why not?
Noggin, don't disagree with what you say and relegation to league 2 is a distinct possibility there are no guarantees for us but there are two sides to the coin here. Don't think the crowds will be much different either in League 1 playing poorly or league two we are pretty much down to those who will go no matter what.
The point I was trying to make was that as bad as we think it is that at this level it is much much easier to improve and push up the league for play off or promotion than being in the higher leagues. There is the potential for a young manager to make a real go at CCFC. I remember when Alex Ferguson was getting less through the gate than season ticket holders and they were calling for his head.
I am just fed up of looking down, expecting little and getting less at some point someone will rise to the challenge and it will improve. It can't go on.
(just had some M&M's but re-reading this think I must have has some of my mother in law's happy pills)
I agree that this club could easily massively improve but I'm afraid I feel that needs to involve a change of ownership at the least and quite possibly a change of manager too. Afraid I can't really agree with the rest though the downward spiral can go on and crowds can and will continue to fall unless something changes. Would love you to be right though.
A bit of width ( a lot more than we have now in fact), More forward passes from the midfield and defence. Players given a little more licence to get forward and gamble on scoring. And get JOB to hold his shape in the team more. Playing people in their correct positions.
That would be a good start for me.
I don't think many expect 2nd in the league, I think many expect much better than where we are. It depends what you class as succeed.
What constraints does he have compared to most other League 1 clubs? I say most because some do have bigger budgets.
Sure but my post was in response to the comment that a new manager would basically be in a no lose position because if you fail thats expected, I don't think thats true as we can see from how the majority feel about Pressley failing.
Our views on the resources available to Pressley are just very very different. Many people seem to feel that since most signings in this league are free signings that suggests an equivalence I do not, many people seem to feel that because other clubs have quite a few loans that suggests an equivalence I do not.
Surely he has the constraint of losing his best players, time and time again? He's not been in position that long, and lost McGoldrick, but effectively blooded Wilson as replacement. But we've now lost Wilson too; plus Clarke, Moussa, Baker, Murphy and Christie. These aren't just players we lost; they're our best players by some considerable margin. Those six players are head and shoulders above anything we currently have. All would walk straight into the starting line up for the next game.
Waggott stated all the Wilson money would be reinvented, and we'd pay a fee should Pressley need it. Have we? Really? Why is Pressley saying he has no funds then?
To answer your question; 'what constraints do we have that are different to other clubs in our league?' - it's that. No other club has lost so many of its prime assets. If there is one, I'd like to see it listed. If there's not, there's your question answered my friend
I believe it to be beyond his capabilities Pax.
why is it when someone tries to see a bit of positive on here they are suddenly labelled sisu lovers.
Surely he has the constraint of losing his best players, time and time again? He's not been in position that long, and lost McGoldrick, but effectively blooded Wilson as replacement. But we've now lost Wilson too; plus Clarke, Moussa, Baker, Murphy and Christie. These aren't just players we lost; they're our best players by some considerable margin. Those six players are head and shoulders above anything we currently have. All would walk straight into the starting line up for the next game.
Waggott stated all the Wilson money would be reinvented, and we'd pay a fee should Pressley need it. Have we? Really? Why is Pressley saying he has no funds then?
To answer your question; 'what constraints do we have that are different to other clubs in our league?' - it's that. No other club has lost so many of its prime assets. If there is one, I'd like to see it listed. If there's not, there's your question answered my friend
I raised this point a few weeks ago in a similar debate, but it is worth raising again; all arguments for SP keeping his job centre around external factors, predominantly the constraints he is under, SISU not delivering promises etc.
Can anyone in favour of SP keeping his job, propose a reason for this based on his skills as a manager?
He gave Wilson a chance and improved him as a player? Tbh though, I don't think he had that much bearing, I think that Wilson just exploded. So to speak.
I can picture you sneering, nose in the air, as you typed that.
As much as I dislike SISU , as far as I am aware none of them are on the playing or coaching staff. Neither do any of them Batter people on the field that is down to the playing side of the club.
SISU are there to organise the running of the club off the field and SP and his team determine who plays, where and what tactics are deployed.
I can't comment on the performances having only been listening on CWR but reading all these posts there are few who will defend the current regime either on or off the pitch.
SISU employ the playing and coaching staff so yes its they're fault end of
If the club fix the on field issues then that would relive a lot of pressure on them. A winning team is what is needed.
He gave Wilson a chance and improved him as a player? Tbh though, I don't think he had that much bearing, I think that Wilson just exploded. So to speak.
Hockaday is ready lined up IMHO, knows conference which is where new players will come from,
quite suitable for a competitive league two club.
Well that is the plan as I interpret it.. I'm free to do that ain't I?
Fair challenge. I suppose the two potential counter points to that would be; a) McGoldrick was ahead of him and on fire which may explain why he was not given a chance b) as you alluded to, Wilson would have made his mark regardless of the manager, possibly?
Some credit for giving Wilson his chance then. Struggling to think of any similar examples or reasons to trust his managerial ability though?
I should point out I am never normally one to call for the managers head, and of all the managers in recent years he is certainly one I wanted (and still want) to see succeed, but I just have little confidence in his ability.
Yes you are, but... What do you think is SISU's plan moving forward in that scenario?
Why would they feel the need to do that? Explain.
I've got to agree with that, apart from McGoldrick who was lost in Robins' tenure. It's part of the reason why I've always been sympathetic to Pressley. He lost what 50 goals in the summer (regardless of the reasons). Any manager would struggle against the backdrop as well as the myriad other problems.
Plenty on here gleefully told of the bets they made on is being relegated this season, is it really a surprise we're now struggling?
IMHO, SISU's plan is to tread water, cut costs to the bone, sign freebies and loan players (on short term contracts) and gamble with possible relegation, whilst they exhaust all legal avenues, using the money from Wilson's sale and the Arsenal cup run.Yes you are, but... What do you think is SISU's plan moving forward in that scenario?
What is your problem NLHWC? Either you have a major inferiority complex or some personal thing for me. Which is it?
Hockaday is ready lined up IMHO, knows conference which is where new players will come from, quite suitable for a competitive league two club.
Well that is the plan as I interpret it.. I'm free to do that ain't I?
Why doesn't he have a level hand compared to some other teams in this league? Bar the Bristol Citys and Sheff Uniteds etc.
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