letsallsingtogether
Well-Known Member
Eisenstein.
If you had read all the posts on here you would have known that.
Or did you work it out all by yourself.
Eisenstein.I get it now. Just looked through a tweet archive and you're his mate. Loyalty is an admirable quality.
So do you think that the national media will report this as an EDL rally or CCFC fans protesting against the ownership of their club?
It's ok I have burnt all the edl banners now.yeah yeah chillax. ill give you that one!
still think a march set up by edl wannabe going past pubs is not a good idea but time will tell. hopefully nothing bad happens
I'm honestly struggling to believe that you can miss the point by such a margin, without it being deliberate. My very first sentence you have just replied to clearly stated 'The march's purpose is not in question'. So no, it wouldn't be an Orange march. Would you expect a Muslim to march in a protest with the protest leader who is openly sharing anti-muslim propaganda just because the subject of the protest happens to be a common ground? Or a black guy in America to join a procession lead by someone who also happened to openly be a KKK member in order to save their local American Football team?So if I organised it would it be an orange march?
when do you start on the crosses?It's ok I have burnt all the edl banners now.
The issues are connected because he is the Chair of the umbrella protest group; a group which will have a wide group of races and religions. He isnt a fit person for that role.
I think its clear he will stand down, he needs to do it quickly and clearly (today), then things can move on without distractions.
Burn them on the route if you like.when do you start on the crosses?
Tbh mate Ive never heard of you, Im sure you and your other accounts will be back to normal in no timeI've just liked one of your posts GPE. I need to shower.
I'm honestly struggling to believe that you can miss the point by such a margin, without it being deliberate. My very first sentence you have just replied to clearly stated 'The march's purpose is not in question'. So no, it wouldn't be an Orange march. Would you expect a Muslim to march in a protest with the protest leader who is openly sharing anti-muslim propaganda just because the subject of the protest happens to be a common ground? Or a black guy in America to join a procession lead by someone who also happened to openly be a KKK member in order to save their local American Football team?
If it's not in question why are people bringing up stuff not connected to it? I'll try again. I've been know to take part in an orange parade on more than one occasion. Does that mean I can't organise a CCFC protest? Some people do take offence to the Orange order after all.
I get the joke, but take it from me, the Orange Order are a nasty bunch (but only if you have an Irish Catholic background).I did a remembrance day march once when I was in the cubs, if people want to get political.
I did a remembrance day march once when I was in the cubs, if people want to get political.
I get the joke, but take it from me, the Orange Order are a nasty bunch (but only if you have an Irish Catholic background).
I know Nick, no worries. Tony dangled the carrot and I bit (why are carrots orange?)No, I wasn't trying to be political.
It is just that it is going to end up getting silly!
You seem to be struggling with the concept that someone can be a CCFC fan and a racist..
I'm honestly struggling to believe that you can miss the point by such a margin, without it being deliberate. My very first sentence you have just replied to clearly stated 'The march's purpose is not in question'. So no, it wouldn't be an Orange march. Would you expect a Muslim to march in a protest with the protest leader who is openly sharing anti-muslim propaganda just because the subject of the protest happens to be a common ground? Or a black guy in America to join a procession lead by someone who also happened to openly be a KKK member in order to save their local American Football team?
Just to come back to your point about should I expect a Muslim to march in a protest with the protest leader who is openly sharing anti-muslim propaganda.
Absolutely I do and I tell you why. They have a commonality and should stand shouldered to shoulder on the club. It should, as long as your willing, transcend anything else. Also commonality is the best way to break down barriers and racism is a barrier.
This also would be nothing new. I'll give you an example from Irish history. More catholic Irish men have died fighting two world wars with the British army than have died fighting republican causes. Especially true in the first world war and in a large number of cases they were republican fighters putting down arms against the British to pick up arms with the British to fight a common enemy. While I'm still on the soap box I'll tell you a personal story. When I go to Northern Ireland to stop with family I always stay with one particular cousin and her catholic husband and children. Partly because she's a great cook and looks after me like a mother but also me and her husband who's from a large republican town get on like a house on fire. If I look at the photos on the walls in amongst the wedding photos at a catholic church and pictures of their kids in school uniforms for the catholic schools that they go to you'll find photos of my cousin and other family members playing in a flute band and marching through the town.
It is what you want it to be. You can except that Steve is right on CCFC and take part in what he's organising or you can put a barrier up because of his unconnected views to fighting for the club. Either way on this occasion Steve isn't the one putting barriers up. It's up to you and others.
Quote: Tony ( UKIP Tony ) 'It is what you want it to be. You can except that Steve is right on CCFC and take part in what he's organising or you can put a barrier up because of his unconnected views to fighting for the club. Either way on this occasion Steve isn't the one putting barriers up. It's up to you and others.'
You don't get it do you? It is not whether or not Steve is right on CCFC. It is not that he is a City fan. It is not that he isn't putting barriers up. It's that he - judging by his tweets, retweets and who he follows - has an extremist point of view. He appears to be very political in his outlook.
City fans are protesting as a non-political group. If the 'leader' had, say, music tweets or football tweets on his Twitter account, nobody would give a toss.
But, he follows scum and retweets and tweets their political views and stories. People do give a toss about that. You may not, and as Grendel has pointed out, you had no problem voting for UKIP as a protest vote. UKIP being about as far right as you can get before you get into Pegida and Tommy Fraudster Robinson territory. The little bit extra doesn't seem to bother you too much. It bothers me though.
Once again, not only does his viewpoint upset some of the fanbase ( a lot I would think ), but it gives our opponents the opportunity of counter attacking based on the character of the groups' 'leader'.
Wonder who Steve has photos of on his walls?
I get the joke, but take it from me, the Orange Order are a nasty bunch (but only if you have an Irish Catholic background).
Why do you continually insist on missing the point Tony?
Quote: Tony ( UKIP Tony ) 'It is what you want it to be. You can except that Steve is right on CCFC and take part in what he's organising or you can put a barrier up because of his unconnected views to fighting for the club. Either way on this occasion Steve isn't the one putting barriers up. It's up to you and others.'
You don't get it do you? It is not whether or not Steve is right on CCFC. It is not that he is a City fan. It is not that he isn't putting barriers up. It's that he - judging by his tweets, retweets and who he follows - has an extremist point of view. He appears to be very political in his outlook.
City fans are protesting as a non-political group. If the 'leader' had, say, music tweets or football tweets on his Twitter account, nobody would give a toss.
But, he follows scum and retweets and tweets their political views and stories. People do give a toss about that. You may not, and as Grendel has pointed out, you had no problem voting for UKIP as a protest vote. UKIP being about as far right as you can get before you get into Pegida and Tommy Fraudster Robinson territory. The little bit extra doesn't seem to bother you too much. It bothers me though.
Once again, not only does his viewpoint upset some of the fanbase ( a lot I would think ), but it gives our opponents the opportunity of counter attacking based on the character of the groups' 'leader'.
I had never heard of Pegida before. Am fully aware of Tommy Robinson though.Talking of the lovely Tommy Robinson, here's a little tweet from Steve and Tommy's reply. Steve is asking about the Pegida UK launch event in Birmingham last February:
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/birmingham-urged-unite-against-tommy-10752562
A reminder of who Pegida are:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegida_UK
This will make a lot of uncomfortable. But not all of us.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...ters-stage-anti-islam-silent-march-birmingham
Say something funny Otis. This thread is depressing me.
Just been on their website and can't see anything apart from a few news stories.
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