skybluebeduff
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But they're lost in threads, surely they should be put in a sticky for people to contribute on ideas only, instead of sieving through fighting to find these ideas? Just a thought
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Sky Blue Kid
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Fisher admitted low crowds at Sixfields really hurt their finances, hence return to the Ricoh. Imagine if a little more NOPM actually forced them to sell up? Nothing ventured, nothing gained as they say.
Nick
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Because it's the "We cant go on being divided" so the way to do that is a boycott?
Nick
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But they're lost in threads, surely they should be put in a sticky for people to contribute on ideas only, instead of sieving through fighting to find these ideas? Just an thought
Because there are literally thousands of posts. People do post really constructive things, but to be honest if they aren't SISU OUT SISU OUT nobody really pays any attention.
Before the boycotts or the clapping your hands 12 times on 16 minutes to represent so and so, the main aim with the fans should be to unite them.
I have also given a fair few examples that could unite them, I doubt they would get SISU out but at least a bit of friendliness with fans is achieved rather than division like boycotts.
clint van damme
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but if they survived on crowds of less than 3,000 for over a season it's going to take some amount of boycotting to force them out, like I say, I'm not convinced.
ajsccfc
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I do hope that it does end up as planned with both sides of the argument actually respecting the decisions of the other without accusing/being accused of being traitors, letting the team/fellow fans down etc. That'd get a bit too close to the Sixfields nonsense that was completely poisonous.
Nick
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He said they returned because of that?
Imagine if a little more NOPM means the club goes bust, or more players get sold to cover losses, or we have even lower wage budgets. Imagine that.
the rumpo kid
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no, its not about boycotting . the boycott is just something that has come up. WE HAVE TO START SOMWHERE. and people have organised this so I will support it . what do you want to do nick ? write letters that will end up as toilet paper ? all is I can haer from you is DONT. if people don't agree then don't do it , but don't keep complaining when nothing changes.
Sky Blue Kid
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Imagine if it doesn't go bust
and players get sold wether we like it or not, and our wage budget has been slashed every season since SISU took charge what's changed?
Nick
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Again, made plenty of posts about it.
I agreed, as fans we need to be united and not divided. This should be worked out before any protest / boycott.
skybluebeduff
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Wilsons money covered that loss I'd imagine.
Grendel
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Ah so its truthful Tim is it?
Grendel
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OK let's start somewhere. Today I am going to change my normal pint after work - I am surrendering Mole Catcher real ale and will have a pint of John Smiths instead. Gonna hurt but I am doing it. Sisu out.
the rumpo kid
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if your waiting for 100% of fans to agree then nothing will ever happen , your not stupid .
the rumpo kid
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glad your on board
skybluebeduff
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What has you having a pint got to do with people raising ideas? That's not an idea, that's just you being tight and not getting a round in...
clint van damme
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Which is why I like the march idea, you can go on the march then either attend or not.
It may not achieve much but if it goes well and everyone respects each others opinion then it's a base to build further actions from.
Nick
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Nah, so to bring fans together I am going to arrange a boycott.
Fact is, who has tried to bring fans together? Other than "you must suddenly just do what I say and agree" type stuff?
Nick
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Make sure you get loads of photos of you shaking hands with the barman, it is needed for you to get plenty of back pats.
skybluebeduff
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Exactly!
Grendel
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There is a belief the boycott will be doing something. The point is all it will be doing is impacting something you want to do. It will have zero impact elsewhere so I will be attending the game
Covstu
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Unfortunately I cannot make the game (or outside) as its my daughters birthday but for what its worth:
I think we need to do something to show our displeasure of the situation and if that's a boycott then so be it but the numbers are the critical factor in this - This will be ineffective is 2-3k turnup as SISU wont really miss that, the ultimate statement would be if those 15k that signed the petition turned up then this sends a message to show exactly what they have lost.
The ideal scenario for me is 20k attend the game and walk out during the game leaving an empty ground, yes we all have to pay for a ticket but this would be a very visible demonstration of fan power (ideally a sky game).
Sadly we all know what will happen on Saturday 5k will go into the ground leaving about 2k outside with the NOPM'ers at home complaining on fans forums. If this has been the common approach then I think we need to back it. (also I would have walked up Jimmy Hill Way and disrupted traffic for an hour or two to make the council wake up also....)
I think we need to do something to show our displeasure of the situation and if that's a boycott then so be it but the numbers are the critical factor in this - This will be ineffective is 2-3k turnup as SISU wont really miss that, the ultimate statement would be if those 15k that signed the petition turned up then this sends a message to show exactly what they have lost.
The ideal scenario for me is 20k attend the game and walk out during the game leaving an empty ground, yes we all have to pay for a ticket but this would be a very visible demonstration of fan power (ideally a sky game).
Sadly we all know what will happen on Saturday 5k will go into the ground leaving about 2k outside with the NOPM'ers at home complaining on fans forums. If this has been the common approach then I think we need to back it. (also I would have walked up Jimmy Hill Way and disrupted traffic for an hour or two to make the council wake up also....)
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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Can't do that again
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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Just like to say I agree with everybody
torchomatic
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Its been done the wrong way round. There should have been a boycott when we were top of the league, would have had much more impact.
Im not boycotting Saturday when the club and the players need me more than ever.
skybluebeduff
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It's not just a boycott, like I've already said, there is a march too...
Covstu
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I think this is the issue, they probably have all but 1k ticket money through the ST's. If 20k turn up outside then that would really be a statement of intent.
torchomatic
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Not sure what is worse; your attitude or the fact people actually agree with you.
Sky Blue Kid
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Ok! We flourished at Sixfields with a "Full House every home game and the supporters were so happy that they all paid a extra £50 each towards buying Messi, and ST turnover has made it impossible to let the other 50k fans into the ground(Health and safety you know
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fernandopartridge
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You live in Cumbria and don't go anyway. Convenient 'boycott'. I've started boycotting Sydney FC's games myself.
Esoterica
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Rumpo, I admire your passion, I really do. There are fewer and fewer people with the desire you show. It needs harnessing correctly though otherwise it loses it's value and that's where I think his whole thing needs leadership from someone with a lot more social intelligence than anything that has been displayed so far. There are many people out there who need the details - what are we trying to achieve through this specific action and how? It's not getting bogged down in the details - understanding the cause and effect is an important tool in getting a particular type of person to buy into a movement. Blind faith, which is what you are essentially advocating, simply will not wash with a lot of people.
We've already had the start, the marker as you called it, at Charlton. Now we should be changing the pigs for sky blue elephants and doing that again for the televised Sheffield United game on Dec 15th.
- The black SISU OUT scarves should be ordered too - it might be a silent, passive protest but it's unifying and therefore valuable for that alone and if you don't like singing SISU OUT, well you can just hold it up instead so our simpletons can still see you care.
- Fisher should be pressured into as many interviews/engagements with the fans as possible, he's said he will talk to us, so let's make him squirm on CWR - he will drop the ball eventually over something.
- A new boycott arranged for the next home cup tie - a boycott IS a powerful tool if used correctly. Rochdale is a waste for many reasons, the next home cup tie is a lot less divisive.
- Pressure on Wasps to talk - get them to come up with a rent proposal which will in turn put the pressure back onto SISU. If we have to attend one of their matches to get their attention, then so be it.
- There's plenty of other ideas been thrown around on here too, I clearly don't have all the answers
- Market things better. There's simply too many splinter groups now and my 65 year old Dad isn't gonna know where the hell to look for what is going on or where. Get a Trust representative at the JH statue every game with a flier/scarf/SISU OUT badge etc and a section up on this site, so everyone always knows where to go for info or to submit an idea.
The short term actions have to be simple and aimed at unification because we are a fractured, disillusioned fan base. The more controversial ideas need to follow that.
fernandopartridge
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Some way to get him back onside
Sky Blue Kid
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I can see Fisher now... Laughing his arse off thinking we've got your money... Please do it again at the next home game. :facepalm:
the rumpo kid
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you either didn't read what I said or just (as I think ) chose to ignor it , you really are putting in a poor performance on this one, nah !
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