Can't see any way forward. (1 Viewer)

[Wheelfass]

As my well intended post seems to have become distorted and the normal candidates have now ridden their usual bigoted rough gallop over it and resorted to the inane ramblings that is expected from them I thought I might just as we'll delete the whole thing and give them their much needed space to spout about nothing. You know who you are.

 

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[Samo]

I've listened to others and occasionally posted my own opinions but I am now pretty sure
that there is currently NO WAY OUT of this total mess of stranglehold mismanagement that stretches back more years than I care to remember. If any of you Sisu sympathisers out there can give ANY POSITIVES from their regime - past or going forward - to any of us REALISTS then please let it be known here. For me and most HONEST people it has been a downward trend of lies and disappointments with the occasional lifting of spirits with a PR spin of false promises. With the legal knowledge and power of our owners and with their TOTAL lack of heart for our football club and it's great history I honestly fear the worst consequence for our survival. If you still support or believe in the current managements plan for progression then you must be either deluded, on their pay roll, or giving them some sort of favours!!!!

Could you please provide me with a list of SISU sympathisers and a few examples of pro SISU posts? I have never seen one on here, apart perhaps from the insane ramblings of RFC. Seriously, it would be good to know who these people are, I hear them mentioned all the time but never see them myself.

 

[skybluetony176]

Could you please provide me with a list of SISU sympathisers and a few examples of pro SISU posts? I have never seen one on here, apart perhaps from the insane ramblings of RFC. Seriously, it would be good to know who these people are, I hear them mentioned all the time but never see them myself.

It will probably be as long as the list of council sympathisers. Maybe 1 more, if we take RFC seriously.

 

[Nick]

It will probably be as long as the list of council sympathisers. Maybe 1 more, if we take RFC seriously.

Still haven't seen a post / thread saying how proud people are of SISU like we have seen with the council?

 

[westofrayne]

There will always be a way forward, but I fear we haave not hit rock bottom yet, until then it will be a downward spiral. I fear Conference Nth/Sth will be our bottom, at who'ch point SISU would not see a way back to FL. I just hope I'm wrong

 

[Samo]

It will probably be as long as the list of council sympathisers. Maybe 1 more, if we take RFC seriously.

Council sympathisers? That's you isn't it Tony? Have you been drinking?

 

[Senior Vick from Alicante]

Sorry but I can't see what's wrong with this post. People on here in the past, but not recently, have said there are and have been mitigating reasons for the owners actions. Asking what these posters think of our plight now is hardly unreasonable.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Empathy does not equate to sympathy.

Did none of you do GCSE English?

 

[Senior Vick from Alicante]

Which ever party people empathise with is irrelevant, each party is now as culpable as the next. All city fans must put their differences a side a find a common medium to unite behind soon else their will be no club to support.

 

[Samo]

Which ever party people empathise with is irrelevant, each party is now as culpable as the next. All city fans must put their differences a side a find a common medium to unite behind soon else their will be no club to support.

Tell it to the OP - Divisive post!

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Which ever party people empathise with is irrelevant, each party is now as culpable as the next. All city fans must put their differences a side a find a common medium to unite behind soon else their will be no club to support.

Indeed, but that's where the well-worn cliches don't really help. The OP starts off with an 'us and them' among fans. It should be 'us and us'. Hell, we even need RFC on board after all this ends, to buy a season ticket.

 

[cmoncity]

The worst thing thats stands out to me is.they said "sisu can fund any losses for the foreseable future without sellling any players".so how is it if thats the case there has been nontransfer budget since clarke wilson exits seems as though sisu can fund the losses without a problem?

 

[Samo]

The worst thing thats stands out to me is.they said "sisu can fund any losses for the foreseable future without sellling any players".so how is it if thats the case there has been nontransfer budget since clarke wilson exits seems as though sisu can fund the losses without a problem?

Could it be that they are less than truthful? Like every fucker else in this sorry saga?

 

[Como]

I am also wondering who the SISU supporters are.

I am pretty certain that for SISU it has been a mega mistake and am pretty sure they would love to have an out.

Certainly can not understand why they would want to put more money in. Does invest really make sense as a term for CCFC, how could you reasonably expect a return?

We need a big time sugar daddy, anybody know one?

 

[Wheelfass]

Indeed, but that's where the well-worn cliches don't really help. The OP starts off with an 'us and them' among fans. It should be 'us and us'. Hell, we even need RFC on board after all this ends, to buy a season ticket.

Of course it's US and THEM that's what the post is all about isn't it. There's too much in-fighting and not enough partisan one way feeling of support. Posts about the Council, posts about Wasps and at a time when we should all be of the same mind. I really don't know what we can do about it as I feel it's just gone too far but thats my opinion. I'm saying that with this company in charge I think we are finished as a football club and shame on anybody that still thinks that there is any credence in the spin of any number of new targeted sites or Lego stadiums on the Moon. I'm totally frustrated like the majority of fans. What I'm underlining is that we are on the brink of going BANG.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

SISU Sympathisers v realists?

Now personally I'd suggest realists are those who to many would fall into a 'SISU sympathiser' cliche, as to just bang a drum against one party ensures what's broke will never be fixed in entirity.

Personally I think we should all be of the same mind in campaigning to ensure Wasps is a failure, to thus strengthen the position of clubs with a geographic affinity to place...

 

[skybluetony176]

Still haven't seen a post / thread saying how proud people are of SISU like we have seen with the council?

How many did you see?

 

[skybluetony176]

Council sympathisers? That's you isn't it Tony? Have you been drinking?

How am I a council sympathiser?

 

[Wheelfass]

SISU Sympathisers v realists?

Now personally I'd suggest realists are those who to many would fall into a 'SISU sympathiser' cliche,

Talk about spin and bollocks....... you must have invented it. You're just the sort I posted about.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Talk about spin and bollocks....... you must have invented it. You're just the sort I posted about.

Yup, you're not divisive at all...

 

[Ashdown]

SISU Sympathisers v realists?

Now personally I'd suggest realists are those who to many would fall into a 'SISU sympathiser' cliche, as to just bang a drum against one party ensures what's broke will never be fixed in entirity.

Personally I think we should all be of the same mind in campaigning to ensure Wasps is a failure, to thus strengthen the position of clubs with a geographic affinity to place...

Seeing it all in action first hand yesterday would suggest to me that the 'Wasps' in Coventry is not going to be a flash in the pan. The City was undoubtedly benefitting from the incoming fans, the pubs and restaurants were packed, no doubt taxi's, hotels and other business' were having a field day. The rugby supporting ethos, meant that the atmosphere was happy, amicable and plenty of Wonga was being spent, everything Ms Lucas would have wanted. Cov rugby had their best crowd of the season too and us Cov lads mixed with guys from London in Black and yellow and Leinsters blue. I don't agree with the franchise but it's hard to knock the positive impacts on the City.

 

[Samo]

How am I a council sympathiser?

Are you not pleased that SISU (the club) were put to the sword by the righteous council and will never own the Ricoh?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Seeing it all in action first hand yesterday would suggest to me that the 'Wasps' in Coventry is not going to be a flash in the pan.

We'll see.

Easy in the short term. Longer term, less so easy to predict. Easy when the team wins too, but without the depth that comes with time when they start losing, we'll see.

As for positive effects, there's something to be said for a surface sheen, but that doesn't equate to a positive long term. I'd suggest the intangibles will cause far, far more damage than any instant gratification might.

But... we shall see. I'd have the courage of my convictions to bet and bet well they won't be in so healthy a position in 5-7 years' time... but not sure I'll have the interest by then to see if I'm right or wrong(!)

 

[Samo]

Seeing it all in action first hand
yesterday would suggest to me that the 'Wasps' in Coventry is not going to be a flash in the pan. The City was undoubtedly benefitting from the incoming fans, the pubs and restaurants were packed, no doubt taxi's, hotels and other business' were having a field day. The rugby supporting ethos, meant that the atmosphere was happy, amicable and plenty of Wonga was being spent, everything Ms Lucas would have wanted. Cov rugby had their best crowd of the season too and us Cov lads mixed with guys from London in Black and yellow and Leinsters blue. I don't agree with the franchise but it's hard to knock the positive impacts on the City.

How lovely. If it wasnt for the fact that you egg chasing, chinless bastards are stomping all over our future (with the help of CCC) that would be fine and dandy. But you are, and it ain't! I hope Wasps get what they deserve.

 

[skybluetony176]

SISU Sympathisers v realists?

Now personally I'd suggest realists are those who to many would fall into a 'SISU sympathiser' cliche, as to just bang a drum against one party ensures what's broke will never be fixed in entirity.

Personally I think we should all be of the same mind in campaigning to ensure Wasps is a failure, to thus strengthen the position of clubs with a geographic affinity to place...

Personally I couldn't care less about Wasps but if the master plan is to rise up on outside parties failure we really are fucked.

If ACL only made losses of £400 odd K with no team playing there and it now has two Wasps and ACL ain't going nowhere and some fans need to get use to the idea. They certainly can't be classed as realists if they don't.

What would be more realistic would be to force our club not only to admit that the Ricoh dream has now gone, admit that the HR2 dream was never anything but and see a successful ACL as a bargaining advantage in negotiating a long term future there that will be beneficial to both parties. I guess that's what apparently makes me a council sympathiser.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Personally I couldn't care less about Wasps but if the master plan is to rise up on outside parties failure we really are fucked.

Nothing happens in isolation.

That's the fatal mistake made time and time again. SISU didn't rock up and take over us by chance, it was because of events outside of that particular event.

Ditto now, not giving a fuck about Wasps can be as destructive long-term in my view as not giving a fuck about lower league clubs when the prem was formed, not giving a fuck about WImbledon moving to MK, not giving a fuck about Chester going to the wall after being owned by mentalist owners...

 

[Wheelfass]

Nothing happens in isolation.

That's the fatal mistake made time and time again. SISU didn't rock up and take over us by chance, it was because of events outside of that particular event.

Ditto now, not giving a fuck about Wasps can be as destructive long-term in my view as not giving a fuck about lower league clubs when the prem was formed, not giving a fuck about WImbledon moving to MK, not giving a fuck about Chester going to the wall after being owned by mentalist owners...

Jesus wept:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

 

[Ashdown]

They didn't win the game, they drew if you meant Wasps. I was of a similar persuasion as you until I felt the atmosphere around CV1 yesterday. The accents were far and wide and the Coventrians seem to be soaking up the banter with Brummies, Southerners and Northerners alike. My first thoughts have been that I want the franchise to fail, mainly because of the potential damage to Cov rugby and the fact that they have jumped in the stadium that was built for CCFC. Time will tell on the true impact and I'm not comfortable at all with how it was all dealt with but the owners of CCFC have taken them down to such an appalling level that people in Cov want something else to look forward to for their sport at the weekend and many of the folk I was talking to are sadly ex Cov City fans and the reasons they were citing are the owners and nobody else ! Damning !

 

[skybluetony176]

Are you not pleased that SISU (the club) were put to the sword by the righteous council and will never own the Ricoh?

SISU played at least an equal part if not more in putting the club to the sword. Every corner that they willingly turned has brought nothing but disaster for the club. The big difference being SISU are still here and driving us down disaster highway to oblivionvile.

Ownership of the Ricoh was never going to happen under SISU because they've never had a plan that was going to achieve it.

 

[Ashdown]

How lovely. If it wasnt for the fact that you egg chasing, chinless bastards are stomping all over our future (with the help of CCC) that would be fine and dandy. But you are, and it ain't! I hope Wasps get what they deserve.

Woah fella, I'm Cov rugby.................6 matches at City and 10 down the Cov this term. Please stick to the facts !

 

[stupot07]

Woah fella, I'm Cov rugby.................6 matches at City and 10 down the Cov this term. Please stick to the facts !

Yeah, you have been pretty vocal against wasps on here and the long term impact on us and Ccfc.

 

[Samo]

SISU played at least an equal part if not more in putting the club to the sword. Every corner that they willingly turned has brought nothing but disaster for the club. The big difference being SISU are still here and driving us down disaster highway to oblivionvile.

Ownership of the Ricoh was never going to happen under SISU because they've never had a plan that was going to achieve it.

Well you go ahead and celebrate because that is the single most decisive factor in ensuring we will not be rid of them any time soon. Happy?

 

[Ashdown]

Absolutely Stupot.
Cov City
Cov Rugby
Cov Bees
Cov Blaze.
I've put my money and time into all the Cov sides at some time or another. Mainly Cov City with 20 ST's from 1992. I'm as horrified as any other by the council decision. My comments re yesterday just honestly describe the scenes around a few of the pubs in town last night.

 

[skybluetony176]

Well you go ahead and celebrate because that is the single most decisive factor in ensuring we will not be rid of them any time soon. Happy?

Celebrate? I don't think so. Are you joining Ian in the self fulfilling prophecies club.

I think it's became clear recently that we won't be rid until they've exhausted the legal system, the Ricoh has nothing to do with it and I'm starting to doubt it ever did. All they know is litigation.

 

[Samo]

Absolutely Stupot.
Cov City
Cov Rugby
Cov Bees
Cov Blaze.
I've put my money and time into all the Cov sides at some time or another. Mainly Cov City with 20 ST's from 1992. I'm as horrified as any other by the council decision. My comments re yesterday just honestly describe the scenes around a few of the pubs in town last night.

If you are a part of the problem you cannot be a part of the solution.