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[Brighton Sky Blue]

Will the club really receive an EFL sanction though? Or is that just yet another stick for Boddy to use to publicly beat Wasps with and conjure more vitriol towards them?

Well whether it actually happens or not it's a possibility, even a slim one. I'm just not convinced it's 4-D chess being played by Boddy and that he was delighted at losing out on the revenue.

 

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[KenilworthSkyBlue]

Well whether it actually happens or not it's a possibility, even a slim one. I'm just not convinced it's 4-D chess being played by Boddy and that he was delighted at losing out on the revenue.

It's obviously not 4-D chess.

That being said there's clearly something going on, as the narrative coming out of the club raises far too many questions to be taken seriously.

 

[oldfiver]

probably - they’ll no doubt get some funding for a court battle

How barmy is that?

They will not get the ST money until the game is played. The walk up money is going to be lost in the main

Not to mention the immediate £30k>£40k to play tomorrow in Burton

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It's obviously not 4-D chess.

That being said there's clearly something going on, as the narrative coming out of the club raises far too many questions to be taken seriously.

Well there is, they're sniffing blood about Wasps going under and/or the stadium coming up for grabs. But that doesn't detract from us being desperately short of cash ourselves and on the balance of probability preferring to have played on Sunday.

 

[Skybluebeliever]

I've worked on the concourse the last 2 pre seasons and we do have groundsman working on the pitch constantly. All wearing CCFC clothing.

Think when they are on CCFC duty , they have to wear CCFC clothing same as when Wasps play they will wear Wasps clothing

 

[Grendel]

How barmy is that?

They will not get the ST money until the game is played. The walk up money is going to be lost in the main

Not to mention the immediate £30k>£40k to play tomorrow in Burton

wasn’t there significant investment funding when the club went to sixfields?

 

[Skybluebeliever]

Will the club really receive an EFL sanction though? Or is that just yet another stick for Boddy to use to publicly beat Wasps with and conjure more vitriol towards them?

IF the EFL said we can’t play games away from home and we asked them, it seems it will be hard to get a sanction , as we put a solution in place in case this happens

 

[oldfiver]

Well there is, they're sniffing blood about Wasps going under and/or the stadium coming up for grabs. But that doesn't detract from us being desperately short of cash ourselves and on the balance of probability preferring to have played on Sunday.

Unless the proposed WMAC grant moves to any new owners why would anyone want the stadium

£20m of dilaps?

 

[MalcSB]

Isn't the bond due again on the 12th, might be linked to that

No it isn’t. Wasps have told bondholders they won’t be raising the finance by then, and are putting together a proposal to extend the term of the bond which holders have to vote on.

 

[wingy]

wasn’t there significant investment funding when the club went to sixfields?

Only paid really through a player or
two sales though?
Managed to afford a new pitch for the cobbler's though.

 

[oldfiver]

wasn’t there significant investment funding when the club went to sixfields?

How does that answer my points?

 

[skyblu3sk]

NEWS: Coventry Building Society will be providing free coach travel for supporters to Wednesday’s game free travel now

 

[MalcSB]

We’re either incredibly naive, someone massively cocked up or there is something we’re not being told.

Everyone and their dogs (except for Anthony Hornsby) could have told you that pitch was wrecked by the CWG, and unless there was a secret pitch relaying in the middle of the night it was going to start like that for the Rotherham game. If no-one at the club realised that then it’s on them.

And what could they have done about it?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Unless the proposed WMAC grant moves to any new owners why would anyone want the stadium

£20m of dilaps?

Land?

 

[MalcSB]

You shouldn't have to, and as for the contract situation if you're renting the Arena for the purpose of playing football matches it's surely an implied term that the venue will be of a standard that will allow that to happen. It's literally not fit for purpose.

As for what that means though in terms of reparations is another thing. The contract may well be voidable, but the club aren't going to want to do that, but If there's no specific clause included regarding compensation I don't know what you can do other than set in motion yet another court case demanding loss of earnings and/or recouping costs incurred.

From the sounds of it I doubt we can make a claim about having a new pitch as it comes across that was more a gentleman's agreement than contractual, but the pitch not passing an inspection is an avenue that is definitely open.

It will be more than an implied term, it is an EFL requirement.

 

[MalcSB]

Unless the proposed WMAC grant moves to any new owners why would anyone want the stadium

£20m of dilaps?

Depends what the purchase price is.

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

Well there is, they're sniffing blood about Wasps going under and/or the stadium coming up for grabs. But that doesn't detract from us being desperately short of cash ourselves and on the balance of probability preferring to have played on Sunday.

Indeed, and that poses two questions.

What is the club's strategy to bridge the shortfall over the next month?

And if SISU/the club do smell blood, what lengths are they willing to go to in order to apply further pressure?

 

[MalcSB]

NEWS: Coventry Building Society will be providing free coach travel for supporters to Wednesday’s game free travel now

CBS must be finding this hugely embarassing

 

[Skybluebeliever]

Fair, I ’m losing track of all pitch talk and thought this was about the general upkeep not the re-lay.

I think the general upkeep piece

Probably Boddy or Vaughan.

The lack of communication on this shows Wasps have no immediate solution and probably have bigger concerns , than making sure football can be played on the pitch

 

[Deleted member 5849]

And if SISU/the club do smell blood, what lengths are they willing to go to in order to apply further pressure?

Not sure I fancy finding out the answer to that.

 

[oldfiver]

Depends what the purchase price is.

Well worked out!

But if you apply that logic to the WASPs valuation it does not come to £60m

 

[oldfiver]

I think the general upkeep piece

The lack of communication on this shows Wasps have no immediate solution and probably have bigger concerns , than making sure football can be played on the pitch

In short they are not interested in CCFC problems nor willing to spend time or money on them

 

[MusicDating]

If the ten year lease does have something in there about pitch maintenance, then I'm fully prepared to accept that SISU just sat back waiting for this to explode rather than assisting getting the pitch ready.

 

[MusicDating]

And by the same token, if there's nothing in the lease, I'm fully prepared to accept that it's SISU's incompetence that meant we haven't checked on the pitch!

 

[skyblu3sk]

CBS must be finding this hugely embarassing

It's one of them as a sponsor, can't do right for doing wrong! The CEO lead principality when they sponsored the stadium in Cardiff.

 

[Sick Boy]

CBS must be finding this hugely embarassing

I doubt it - it's not a reflection on them, and they've already had coverage in The Times.

 

[oldfiver]

If the ten year lease does have something in there about pitch maintenance, then I'm fully prepared to accept that SISU just sat back waiting for this to explode rather than assisting getting the pitch ready.

How and why should they assist ? other than to remedy a WASPs failure and get a game on

 

[MalcSB]

Well worked out!

But if you apply that logic to the WASPs valuation it does not come to £60m

Exactly

 

[Grendel]

I'm sorry and it is painful to say this, but for an impartial observer the club relying on a statement about relaying the pitch made some time ago in lieu of having a day to day relationship is just ridiculous

Our person delivering messages is just a lot more believed but it’s all the same

 

[oldfiver]

Our person delivering messages is just a lot more believed but it’s all the same

WASPs said they would spend £100k on pitch - so far £7k. That's a lot of sand - which is useless

 

[Grendel]

WASPs said they would spend £100k on pitch - so far £7k. That's a lot of sand - which is useless

as I’ve said Vaughan and Eastwood are from the same smarm school and show the same levels of honesty as your pal fisher

 

[oldfiver]

as I’ve said Vaughan and Eastwood are from the same smarm school and show the same levels of honesty as your pal fisher

Are you saying my comment is not true?
Careful G !

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

“In May we informed CCFC that we would not be relaying the pitch. No objection was raised to that course of action then or at any other time.

Wasps Group statement regarding Arena pitch – Stephen Vaughan, Group Chief Executive Officer

www.wasps.co.uk

 

[Grendel]

Are you saying my comment is not true?
Careful G !

No I’m saying it’s entirely true what’s odd is you don’t see the same nonsense Vaughan spouts is exactly the same as fisher has done for years and years. It’s on public record fishers quotes regarding new stadiums for a decade and it’s no more truthful than his comment, actually less as at least he spent some money on sand. Fisher didn’t even go through a charade of buying any land.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Well this is going to start getting very interesting, Wasps say weren’t going to relay the pitch and CCFC did not object.