Yes, because somebody shouting and being angry makes a difference doesn't it?You speak like you enjoy being shafted by a hedge fund!
You also talk as if it is one game... Great how people justify it all by saying we were rubbish anyway so it's ok.That day in question you keep on about against Sheffield game the was stopped (just as if there was a injury) when it resumed we did not concentrate that is nothing to do with anything that went before. Stop blaming the protest they a professional players it is their livelihood although the way some played last season you would not think it
People blamed certain results on protests, let's not suddenly appear again and bullshit about it.
The protests done were never going to do a thing but self satisfaction. Nothing was going to change from any of them.
People keep acting like shouting a lot will fix everything
I only mentioned certain games, the ones where protests actually affected matches.
Even more reason not to blow whistles or storm the pitch when our team is clinging on to a result then surely?
I don't think anybody would blame a march before a game for a result or goal going in.
Again, not hard to understand why people blamed certain protests and not all of them.
Again, does that justify it then? I'm not on about marches or when there was a mock funeral. Although I didn't think they would do anything they wouldn't affect matches.Exactly what affect did those goals/points have on the overall season?
Again, does that justify it then? I'm not on about marches or when there was a mock funeral. Although I didn't think they would do anything they wouldn't affect matches.
The media obsession is pointless, the focus should be on the fan base first and foremost.Ok, so what do you suggest? What do you think will make a difference? How can we keep our situation in the media?
I think most people are open to suggestions at this point.
Again, does that justify it then? I'm not on about marches or when there was a mock funeral. Although I didn't think they would do anything they wouldn't affect matches.
The media obsession is pointless, the focus should be on the fan base first and foremost
Yes, because somebody shouting and being angry makes a difference doesn't it?
The club yes, not sisu.Well actually yeah I think it does. It made headlines, and the club would have had to answer some questions.
I just meant in this situation, the only thing that will really make them go is moneySometimes it does though. If you look back on history there are loads of bonkers ineffective protests and stands that seemed futile, but years and years later they seem forward thinking and the ideology accepted as the norm.
Muttering in the background achieves nothing. The failure of Coventry City doesn't really effect Joy or Tim, their income and lifestyle continue.
The media obsession is pointless, the focus should be on the fan base first and foremost.
It won't make sisu go though, but a stronger United fanbase would be much better. A good start would be somebody like the trust ironing out all myths etc
Ok what are you doing about are football club and the mess it's in ?You speak as if ranting makes any difference.
The club yes, not sisu.
Supporting it as much as I can through thick and thin like a lot of others do.Ok what are you doing about are football club and the mess it's in ?
Other than WHINGING about people having a RANT ! :facepalm: :stop:
That's one of the things people need to be made aware of.Oh yeah, because there is no connection between the two.
You say that, but our situation has been discussed in the national media, the house of commons, the football authorities. And now will be discussed again by the EFL. If the rest of the fans had taken your approach I'm not sure we'd have had any airtime anywhere. It might not have achieved anything so far, but it may do, then again it may not. But nothing will certainly achieve nothing. And I'd certainly like to have been on the side that tried, rather than the side that did nothing, except moan about those that tried. I'm sure you are a nice guy in person, but you don't half come across as a nause on here.
I just meant in this situation, the only thing that will really make them go is money
Everybody can get behind ccfc... It's not a new concept. We did it at Wembley, that's a good example.You haven't given any suggestions really. List the actions that we can actually do, that you think everyone else has missed. Nothing vague like "the Trust ironing out old myths" something tangible that everyone can get behind.
The media obsession is pointless, the focus should be on the fan base first and foremost.
It won't make sisu go though, but a stronger United fanbase would be much better. A good start would be somebody like the trust ironing out all myths etc
Providing a platform for people to discuss ccfc and reach thousands of other fans every day.
I'm there as much as physically possible already.You can join the rest of us anytime you like. No ones stopping you.
That's one of the things people need to be made aware of.
That's one of the things people need to be made aware of.
It is a bit of an issue, not just that but confusion in general isn't it. That could be due to emotion too.I don't think that's an issue really. But if you think it is message all subscribes explaining difference. I'm happy to spread the word on the Facebook page too.
It is a bit of an issue, not just that but confusion in general isn't it. That could be due to emotion too.
Everybody can get behind ccfc... It's not a new concept. We did it at Wembley, that's a good example.
Celebrate ccfc rather than being angry. Might not be the best but get behind ccfc.
I'm there as much as physically possible already.
I didn't say this site would bring thousands back though?As I mentioned before that's not going to happen. Too many people have walked away, and as useful as this site is it's not going to bring back the thousands needed. And actually you know that, it's just another way of you doing nothing and blaming everyone else for not joining you.
So what are you on about joining then? I haven't said people who protest don't go. You offered for me to join the rest of you, I said I'm at as many games as possible.So are the majority who have protested. Except they've protested as well.
I didn't say this site would bring thousands back though?
That is the one game YOU keep on about nothing about the lack of professionalism that was missing on that day and many other times in the season stop blaming protests they are paid to do a job the other teams took advantage . I for one don't think anyone cover themselves with glory do you?You also talk as if it is one game... Great how people justify it all by saying we were rubbish anyway so it's ok.
So what are you on about joining then? I haven't said people who protest don't go. You offered for me to join the rest of you, I said I'm at as many games as possible.
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