CET: Ricoh talks back on "It's what the fans want us all to do" (7 Viewers)

[coundonskyblue]

All the hotels are rubbish in Coventry and there isn't much to choose from. Then again I see no reason why there would be a demand for hotel accommodation in the city.

I can assure you the Village, the Ramada, and the Royal Court are all decent hotels.

 

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[sky blue john]

When exhibitions are on people need hotel rooms. when concerts are on people need hotel rooms.

Event tickets could be sold as packages with rooms.

 

[coundonskyblue]

Its a good job everyone wasnt as small minded as some on here. The "Theres no demand for hotels" lot. If you dont build it how do you know!

 

[deanocity3]

When exhibitions are on people need hotel rooms. when concerts are on people need hotel rooms.

Event tickets could be sold as packages with rooms.

in the 60's Jimi Hendrix got kicked the Leofric hotel when they found he had prostitutes in his room.

 

[westterrace]

Plenty of decent hotels in and around Coventry, look here http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotels-g186403-Coventry_Warwickshire_England-Hotels.html

 

[Grendel]

I can assure you the Village, the Ramada, and the Royal Court are all decent hotels.

Perhaps to you. Personally it's 5 stars or nothing.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Yes, and there is demand for hotels.

That is met by the existing provision. There have been planning apps for hotels at the Ricoh in the past. Why has nothing materialised?

 

[fernandopartridge]

I can assure you the Village, the Ramada, and the Royal Court are all decent hotels.

Beg to differ, the Royal Court is an absolute hole. Appalling. Ramada is ok mind.

 

[Grendel]

Beg to differ, the Royal Court is an absolute hole. Appalling. Ramada is ok mind.

You'd have to pay me to stop in any of them.

 

[dongonzalos]

Where would they find the artists to sustain one concert per month then?

Have a look at ticketmaster and take wild guess.

Would this be in the stadium or hall?

Both depending on the artist like now

Where is the demand for a decent hotel? Who would want to stay nearby? Who would come up with the capital to build it?

ACL have already sated they are losing bids in exhibitions due to not enough hotel rooms for conferences.

Also put in packages for the gigs

 

[dongonzalos]

You're supposed to be a grown man ffs.

Sorry when I turned 18, I still retained the ability to dislike getting fed bullshit. If you wanted to be spoken to like you are a fool and accept because you think you are a man hats off to you.

It 30 degrees outside by the way.

 

[dongonzalos]

Supply is only relative to demand.

Demand is only relative to what is on offer

 

[dongonzalos]

The Ricoh hotel has a fair bit of use when conferences/concerts/miscellaneous events are held there though surely?

Yes and they are missing out in exhibitions because they don't have enough rooms

 

[Grendel]

Yes and they are missing out in exhibitions because they don't have enough rooms

Have you ever had a conference or any type of meeting at the Ricoh?

 

[dongonzalos]

We are spending £3 million in opening 38 more bedrooms to our on-site hotel in January to take the total number to 121 as well as installing a new hotel booking service.

“To create further event space we are also adding sliding glass doors to the Legends Lounge suite to add more conference and exhibition space which is another significant investment.

“The opening of the train station at the Ricoh Arena towards the end of next year is another positive factor when we are hosting large-scale events, conferences and exhibitions so there are plenty of projects to highlight.

“EIBTM is mainly appointment driven so Laurie and I will have the opportunity to promote the fantastic B2B facilities that we offer to leading representatives from across the globe as well as at a welcome dinner and various networking events.

“The Ricoh Arena has become a flagship venue in the Midlands for conference and exhibition organisers as well as delegates because of our state-of-the-art facilities, location and flexibility

 

[Grendel]

I have had several meetings and seminars at the Ricoh and it is an awful venue. Rooms are not suitable, catering is similar to a working mans club and if you have a meeting of 8 or under they shove you in a bedroom in which you can hardly move.

They hardly use any of the space already available and it's rubbish.

 

[dongonzalos]

Cant see the attraction myself.........


The Ricoh Arena offers:

A 32,000-seater stadium

The Jaguar Exhibition Hall measuring 6,000sq metres and capable of holding 8,000 people for concerts, or a banquet for up to 5,000 people

More than 3,000sq metres for conference and banqueting, seating around 2,500 diners including the largest column-free conference and banqueting space in the Midlands

19 Kiosks built around stadium and four serving the Jaguar Exhibition Halls

The De Vere hotel

Singers Bar & Bistro, a 100-seater restaurant, bar area and coffee lounge with internet access

The Arena Health and Fitness Club - featuring 100 fitness stations, sauna, steam room, treatments and therapies as well as the first ever dedicated youth gym in the West Midlands for eight to 16 year olds.

More than 2,000 car parking spaces

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Have you ever had a conference or any type of meeting at the Ricoh?

Well the Jehovah's Witness convention is still thriving there I believe.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I have had several meetings and seminars at the Ricoh and it is an awful venue. Rooms are not suitable, catering is similar to a working mans club and if you have a meeting of 8 or under they shove you in a bedroom in which you can hardly move.

They hardly use any of the space already available and it's rubbish.

What's your line of business Grendel?

 

[dongonzalos]

They seem to be struggling on the conference front.....


The rise in the number of conferences we are attracting is underlined by the fact we held 400 conferences in the first quarter of the year and we are confident this segment of our business will increase by over 20 per cent this year," he added.

 

[Grendel]

What's your line of business Grendel?

Sales and marketing. We get subsidised rooms so sometimes use it. It's wierd. Long corridors no staff poor service. It's really third rate for businesses.

Does anyone ever stop in the hotel? Why anyone would defeats me. It's soulless and poor catering.

 

[dongonzalos]

I have had several meetings and seminars at the Ricoh and it is an awful venue. Rooms are not suitable, catering is similar to a working mans club and if you have a meeting of 8 or under they shove you in a bedroom in which you can hardly move.

They hardly use any of the space already available and it's rubbish.

I was in one of those bedrooms for the last three games.

At one point there was 8 people in there around the board table. It was more than sufficient room.

With the added advantage of ensuite

 

[dongonzalos]

Compass are as big as it gets suprised you fault the catering, did you use the restuarant or have it delivered.

 

[Grendel]

I was in one of those bedrooms for the last three games.

At one point there was 8 people in there around the board table. It was more than sufficient room.

With the added advantage of ensuite

If you think that is good you have very low expectations.

 

[dongonzalos]

If you think that is good you have very low expectations.

I am a cov fan?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Sales and marketing. We get subsidised rooms so sometimes use it. It's wierd. Long corridors no staff poor service. It's really third rate for businesses.

Does anyone ever stop in the hotel? Why anyone would defeats me. It's soulless and poor catering.

Think I recall Micky Adams putting potential signings up in there for a night to encourage them to sign. Makes sense that we only enticed Kyle.

 

[dongonzalos]

In fact in the last match your orange friend Mr coventry was one side of us and your other closest friend Mr Bell was the other.

The only person missing was AT

 

[georgehudson]

once again looks like people with sparse knowledge of football posturing to ill effect

 

[Otis]

Sorry when I turned 18, I still retained the ability to dislike getting fed bullshit. If you wanted to be spoken to like you are a fool and accept because you think you are a man hats off to you.

It 30 degrees outside by the way.

Think your thermometer is upside down, mate.

 

[skybluehugh]

And last night a Coventry City FC spokesman revealed: “Happily, we are now talking with ACL. It is clear that this is what the fans want us all to do.

So which is it. They are not conducting talks in the media as that is what we want them to do.

Or is it the talks themselves.

As in all honesty if they are doing what the majority of the fans want. They should accept the 400k offer.

The CET are quoting a club spokesman.

SISU dont like it in the media as they always come off bad. TF started putting it in the media suggesting ACL were going bust

If they really wanted to do what most of the fans want ( of course not Torch or Cyril) they would FECK OFF

 

[skybluehugh]

I cant help the nagging doubt that nothing has really changed.

Seppala has a reputation for playing hard ball, and will take this to the wire. In reality there has been nothing much happen to change her plan and objective. Certainly do not buy into the notion that she has listened to the fans and is prepared to soften her stance. Why would she when she knew all along ACL would have to take action, that hasnt been a surprise to her...... it wont have changed her approach, it is what she has engineered after all. So would she be prepared to compromise her position and settle the matter now ? 11th hour deal maybe, but I suspect there is some stuff going on in the background we are not party to that she feels gives her the advantage

I would expect that attitudes have hardened at ACL, Council & Charity against SISU (not CCFC). Probably a greater sense of unity between the three than ever.

Who will blink first if at all ?

Also because of the Xmas break I wouldnt expect action on Boxing Day it is more likely to be 2nd january. There is still a very real chance of a winding up order.

Hopefully I am wrong, but right now it doesnt feel like it to me. There are going to be a lot of bumps in the road yet. Sorry for not being very optimistic

Fully agree OSB, and if it does happen they will say " We were happy to talk but ACL wouldn't budge and so it is all ACL's fault"

 

[skybluehugh]

Yes let sisu buy the ground so they can sell it on at a huge profit,who knows,our new landlord might charge us 2 million rent a year.

If SHITSU get the ground you can bet your bottom dollar they would charge CCFC 2mil a year.

 

[+ameatpie&dafillinfellout]

a couple of questions?

1:How much is CCFC worth to a potential investor without owning there own ground?
2:How much is CCFC worth to a potential investor if the owner of the club owned the ground?

 

[TrueSkyBlueLiam]

ACL are being more than fair. 67% reduction in rent, 10 years to pay off our debt, plus a large chunk of matchday revenue. Why the hell aren't SISU accepting? Just accept the deal so we can go back to normal and focus on what really matters; Football

 

[oldskyblue58]

"a couple of questions?

1:How much is CCFC worth to a potential investor without owning there own ground?
2:How much is CCFC worth to a potential investor if the owner of the club owned the ground? "

not a lot in both cases .......... because it wont be the club owning the ground, it wouldnt make much sense directly linking the clubs losses to the ground - which is why SISU want 100% not 50% of ACL