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The Philosopher · Oct 13, 2014

Ched Evans about to released from prison. Big petition up in Sheffield for him to NOT be allowed to re-sign for Sheffield United. Oddly, they had Marlon King on the books recently.
Evans maintains his innocence (unlike King) and has put his reasons why (quite eloquently tbf) on his website.
On the basis that he has been tried and found guilty, we must consider him to be so.
With our history of Marlon King (could be argued they committed vastly different offences but nonetheless), and our clear need for a decent striker, would you support him if he signed. ?
Just a question for debate - in no way am I suggesting that we should - before the abuse comes a flowing.

Skyblueweeman · Oct 13, 2014

Interesting argument again on this one. I'd say no but I understand the whole '2nd chance' the others will say.

Marty · Oct 13, 2014

No, purely for footballing reasons, only had one good season.

hill83 · Oct 13, 2014

Just for the record, and I'm in no way excusing Marlon King. But he didn't rape anyone. You've got to draw the line somewhere, and mine appears to be there.

The Philosopher · Oct 13, 2014

35 goals in his last season at this level.

hill83 · Oct 13, 2014

The Philosopher said:
35 goals in his last season at this level.

Sign him up

oscillatewildly · Oct 13, 2014

He's already failed 'challenging' the system. He'll fail again with this current one, should he sign.

Otis · Oct 13, 2014

Already a thread on it.

I know, cos I started it.

http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/49914-Ched-Evans?highlight=ched+evans

ajsccfc · Oct 13, 2014

He should be allowed to continue in his career if the law deems him a member of the public again. I'd rather it's anywhere else though, no matter how good a player.

Rusty Trombone · Oct 13, 2014

The other player who was there, and acted in the same way that Evans did, was acquitted. You would think they were either both guilty or both innocent.

It's a difficult one to answer, but on balance I wouldn't be outraged (todays SBT phrase) if he played for us.

http://www.chedevans.com/

hill83 · Oct 13, 2014

Otis said:
Already a thread on it.

I know, cos I started it.

http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/49914-Ched-Evans?highlight=ched+evans

Your thread is too wordy. This is a football forum not an amateur writers club.

Otis · Oct 13, 2014

hill83 said:
Your thread is too wordy. This is a football forum not an amateur writers club.

Ooh, get you, you critic of a poor lonely wordsmith's musings.

rupert_bear · Oct 13, 2014

Christ I remember when we were signing Marlon King and the uproar re. that so no thank you not again. But I do believe once you have paid your debt to society you should be able to continue your employment, unfortunately football is so much in the public eye a conviction such as rape is a difficult one

Otis · Oct 13, 2014

rupert_bear said:
Christ I remember when we were signing Marlon King and the uproar re. that so no thank you not again. But I do believe once you have paid your debt to society you should be able to continue your employment, unfortunately football is so much in the public eye a conviction such as rape is a difficult one

Yep. Could you imagine your 10 or 13 year old daughter with his name emblazoned on the backs of their shirts? Therein lies the problem. One of celebrity and hero worship.

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Oct 13, 2014

We've already got 5 strikers

Evo1883 · Oct 13, 2014

Morally no .
footballing reasons yes

Astute · Oct 13, 2014

CCFC said:
We've already got 5 strikers

Aledgedly

Skyblueweeman · Oct 13, 2014

CCFC said:
We've already got 5 strikers

To be fair, 4 of them are just 'men' masquerading as Strikers...

ccfc_Tom · Oct 13, 2014

Rather we got ebanks blake better scoring record, also free and hasn't raped anyone

ollyservetta · Oct 13, 2014

talking to utd fans last season and they were amazed he was even charged ,let alone found guilty ,seems it was more about him going back for another go and not getting written permission .from whats been said ,the so called victim had tried the same with some rugby players but it all got thrown out .

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Oct 13, 2014

ollyservetta said:
talking to utd fans last season and they were amazed he was even charged ,let alone found guilty ,seems it was more about him going back for another go and not getting written permission .from whats been said ,the so called victim had tried the same with some rugby players but it all got thrown out .

Ok judge

ollyservetta · Oct 13, 2014

the same lads told me that they were pissed with their chairman because city did not just say no to selling them Clarke and Wilson, but went back with a not so unrealistic fee .so all the,< they are not for sale >bull from sp and sisu last summer was actually ,they are for a certain price .the reason they were pissed was the price they came back with was not much more than the offer .the chairman is as they said a true blade ,loves the club ,but they couldn't believe he never stumped up the cash ..soory bit of thread ,but yes id give ched evans a go ,he has served his time

Nick · Oct 13, 2014

ollyservetta said:
the same lads told me that they were pissed with their chairman because city did not just say no to selling them Clarke and Wilson, but went back with a not so unrealistic fee .so all the,< they are not for sale >bull from sp and sisu last summer was actually ,they are for a certain price .the reason they were pissed was the price they came back with was not much more than the offer .the chairman is as they said a true blade ,loves the club ,but they couldn't believe he never stumped up the cash ..soory bit of thread ,but yes id give ched evans a go ,he has served his time

Everybody is for sale for a price

fernandopartridge · Oct 13, 2014

ollyservetta said:
the same lads told me that they were pissed with their chairman because city did not just say no to selling them Clarke and Wilson, but went back with a not so unrealistic fee .so all the,< they are not for sale >bull from sp and sisu last summer was actually ,they are for a certain price .the reason they were pissed was the price they came back with was not much more than the offer .the chairman is as they said a true blade ,loves the club ,but they couldn't believe he never stumped up the cash ..soory bit of thread ,but yes id give ched evans a go ,he has served his time

The extraordinary moral compass of the Coventry City fan

ollyservetta · Oct 13, 2014

Nick said:
Everybody is for sale for a price

I know that ,it was more of the fact at the time we were being told they wernt for sale and they had turned down the interest ,if true tho and utd had gone for the fee ,imagine where we would be at present without any Clarke and Wilson goals last season

Otis · Oct 13, 2014

fernandopartridge said:
The extraordinary moral compass of the Coventry City fan

I've got a moral compass. It always points me in the right direction.

shmmeee · Oct 13, 2014

fernandopartridge said:
The extraordinary moral compass of the Coventry City fan

So what should we do, if not follow the law?

Vigilante justice?

Why not force all sex offenders (because sex offence is sooo much worse than other offences) to be branded so you can throw rotten fruit at them? That'd show 'em!

What exactly is "moral" about your position? It's unadulterated vengeance on your behalf and nothing more. Don't dress it up as moral superiority.

Grendel · Oct 13, 2014

shmmeee said:
So what should we do, if not follow the law?

Vigilante justice?

Why not force all sex offenders (because sex offence is sooo much worse than other offences) to be branded so you can throw rotten fruit at them? That'd show 'em!

What exactly is "moral" about your position? It's unadulterated vengeance on your behalf and nothing more. Don't dress it up as moral superiority.

Where do you rate it then -- alongside shoplifting?

Otis · Oct 13, 2014

Grendel said:
Where do you rate it then -- alongside shoplifting?

I guessing somewhere between panty sniffing and cannibalism.

Sky Blue Harry H · Oct 13, 2014

Otis said:
I guessing somewhere between panty sniffing and cannibalism.

Would that be eating a pair of someone's dirty pants . If so, count me in

Otis · Oct 13, 2014

Sky Blue Harry H said:
Would that be eating a pair of someone's dirty pants . If so, count me in

I've been through the laundry bin and parcelled up 4 pairs for you.

Or would you have preferred women's panties?

Deleted member 5849 · Oct 13, 2014

Otis said:
I've been through the laundry bin and parcelled up 4 pairs for you.

Or would you have preferred women's panties?

Where's the vomit smiley!

Otis · Oct 13, 2014

Deleted member 5849 said:
Where's the vomit smiley!

Northampton?

Sick Boy · Oct 13, 2014

shmmeee said:
So what should we do, if not follow the law?

Vigilante justice?

Why not force all sex offenders (because sex offence is sooo much worse than other offences) to be branded so you can throw rotten fruit at them? That'd show 'em!

What exactly is "moral" about your position? It's unadulterated vengeance on your behalf and nothing more. Don't dress it up as moral superiority.

For me it's as bad as murder. No way would I ever want a convicted rapist playing for ccfc.

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