Sick Boy
Super Moderator
Erm...He is guilty? Why is it so hard to understand? It isn't like he has had a retrial, he is still guilty and a scumbag to boot.
#prayforched
But you've said he is guilty? So why wait until they decide?
What happens if he gets found not guilty in the retrial?
Surely he will try and take action for damages? Is that then down to the courts to pay?
If he is found not guilty there will be a few people who should be made to say sorry people like that Jessica Ennis, whatever happens he comes out of this badly as he did have a partner at home when he was off out miss-behaving.
Oh yeah of course if it was just sex it was wrong anyway but not illegal.
IF he is totally cleared, what then happens to the victim?
If the judges have seen this evidence as enough to clear his conviction for a retrial, surely it is strong evidence? I guess it is just down to the jury then.
Yeah, I read they can't disclose the evidence as it could effect his retrial.
I wonder if clubs will then sign him up.
Yeah, I read they can't disclose the evidence as it could effect his retrial.
I wonder if clubs will then sign him up.
After the retrial if the result goes his way I would think so, as he is then not guilty of rape but guilty of being a bit naughty and silly. His problem is he has been away from the game for a long time it took Marlon a good time to get back up to speed
He is effectively currently at the stage of having been charged and awaiting trial. As in the case of Adam Johnson, any club that didn't at least suspend him would be pilloried if he is later convicted.
Difference being, of course, that Marlon King WAS convicted. It may turn out that Evans is not. But players who have supposedly been training all the while can find it tough to get up to speed (e.g. Joe Cole, Peter Ramage, Darius Henderson, etc etc)
Just because he may be proved not guilty - for anybody who has read even his confession - he is certainly not innocent
Not innocent of what? Having sex with a floozy? If that's the case it must make most men guilty of rape and reflecting on my youth, I myself must be a serial rapist. Unless of course you've led an extremely sad and sheltered life.
Neanderthal ill informed tripe like this and the lynch mob mentality persued by Evans and his thuggish cohorts is why women raped are too intimidated to give evidence.
Exactly what I kept saying all along. The review board must have seen new evidence of such a degree that it warranted an appeal and then obviously it must be strong enough to have caused the conviction to be quashed.But if it wasn't rape, you can understand why he would be a bit annoyed? I have no idea what evidence has been found, but it must be strong surely?
People have gone on about him refusing to apologise, showing no remorse about it even after serving his time.
He may well be found to be guilty again, but what happens if innocent?
What it does say is that the original trial did not reach an unsound verdict based on the evidence with which they were presented, but that there is now something more. That will doubtless come out in the wash, but no matter what the outcome, the identity of the "victim" (sic) will never be revealed by the courts. Which is wrong if it is a false accusation. The alternative to revealing the name of the victim at any point (which will probably inhibit women from coming forward and reporting rape and similar offences, including domestic abuse) is to keep the identity of the accused secret until he has been convicted. Equality works both ways.
What ever the reason there is clearly some damming new evidence. We all surmised on the story but the truth was we were not there we only went on reports and we couldn't possibly know the truth. A jury of his peers convicted him originally. How much of that was due to so much castigation of a 'footballer' and perhaps less attention to facts? Or maybe it was the correct decision based on the evidence in the trial? The issue now is 'new evidence' and it's strong enough to overturn the original conviction which is very rare indeed.
Personal thoughts are not what you convict people on. Evidence and ultimate proof is what matters. As Otis says there are a lot on here who had him hung drawn and quartered. He might yet be found guilty but if it were you and you consistently said you were innocent and now you had the chance to prove all over again how would you feel? If ultimately after a new trial he is innocent then many people owe him an apology and I would admire him for standing up consistently for himself. If however he is again proven guilty then I guess most people will feel justified. The 'victim' is still protected. I can't help feeling that if he is ultimately innocent she may face charges.
On the legal front it's very complicated. New evidence could mean many things but looking at the precedents for retrial: it may be based on numerous things such as interference and intimidation of witnesses and jurors, perverting the course of justice, aiding, abetting, counselling,procuring, suborning or inciting another person to commit an offence under the perjury act.
So unlikely a new video or tape recording is the new evidence but what the prosecution and the witness evidence given at the original trial. In other words someone has been found out to have lied.
Maybe. Guess it will all come out soon enough won't it.I wonder if any of this evidence is stuff from Twitter she was meant to have posted.
Keeping it out of the press and social media might be more of a challenge, mind you!That would be best wouldn't it? To save ruining people's lives with false claims.
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