No future with SISU
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Your prediction on the court case was wrong ( like a lot you post on here) and while SISU are around the return to the RICOH can happen, but the majority of FANS want them gone.ACL are not the problem it is Joy.
Exactly. While they are still around the club will never return.
Right. I hope we've got the JR circus out of the way for a bit now, and that SISU aren't granted leave to appeal to keep it running a bit longer.
What needs to happen now is an unambiguous offer from ACL for a low-rent short-term deal, accompanied with proper discussions on what can be offered to the club in terms of income streams (nothing should be out of bounds in those talks, but negotiation has to be done in good faith from all sides). SISU need to accept that deal, and start bringing more money into the club straight away. I'd hope for no crowing from one side, and no whining from the other. Everyone has to move on.
In football terms, this is the equivalent of kicking each other up and down the park for ninety minutes and then shaking hands and having a pint together afterwards. I hope all sides can be grown up enough to do this.
Would that involve the charity losing all the money it invested to save us?ACL need to be wound up. The cub could then be handed a long term lease with all revenues. Its the only way.
The key word.
No wriggle room please.
"No one else will love you you know. You're damaged goods"
tbf, if I said 'as little wriggle room as possible, whislt acknowledging there is never an absolute absolute' it isn;t quite as catchy...Bluntly, there will always be wriggle room - because "the devil is in the detail".
However as Duffer says, negotiation has to be done in good faith from both sides.
Let's hope that can happen.
ACL need to be wound up. The cub could then be handed a long term lease with all revenues. Its the only way.
tbf, if I said 'as little wriggle room as possible, whislt acknowledging there is never an absolute absolute' it isn;t quite as catchy...
Perhaps 'no media driven headline offers' would have been the better statement
Sounds very catchy to me.
Perhaps that's why I was advised never to go into marketing :thinking about:
tbf, if I said 'as little wriggle room as possible, whislt acknowledging there is never an absolute absolute' it isn;t quite as catchy...
Perhaps 'no media driven headline offers' would have been the better statement
There's real merit in that. A media ceasefire would be a really good idea, where all sides just agree to sit down together and discuss stuff peacefully (non-disclosure agreements all round), and everyone promises not to say anything nasty about anyone else in public regardless of how right or wronged they feel.
I don't know about Labovitch, but Fisher isn't an unintelligent bloke, and Lucas seems to be making the right noises. Can they not just sit together for a while without having to feedback to the media and score points off one another...
Tsk. You and your "battered wife" analogies.
No. Sensible negotiation is now what's needed. SISU are losing money hand-over fist at Sixfields. They claim they are to build anew stadium. At what cost? Why not use some of the money budgeted for this, and use this as an offer to buy ACL? Not distress it, or break it, or destroy it, or 'batter it in court'. Buy it.
There's public opinion behind this being bought to an end. This should be used to mobilise political will go get CCC and Higgs to sell at the 'right price'; and SISU should offer something near that
Meh, I can switch to Stockholm Syndrome if it's too offensive?
But the analogy is apt. "No one else will want us" "Anyone else would be the same" "They've got our best interests at heart really".
Kick the fuckers to the curb.
To my mind though, whether driven by ACL themselves, or media requirements, one of the more destructive elements have been the offers made where the headline isn't really related to the detail, as it builds hope that can be easily dashed.
Now admittedly I'm not entirely sure how you get past that, given you want people to know you've made an offer(!) but any offer needs to stop playing to the gallery quite so much.
And if it does that, it has more chance of progress anyway (he said, borrowing one of your straws for a moment!)
I must say I do find your 'battered wives' analogies condescending to any female (or male for that matter) who has experienced domestic abuse.
If you haven't already seen it, I would recommend that you watch Murdered By My Boyfriend on iplayer (BBC3).
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And buy the £14m mortgage along with it? Very appealing.
Oh dear....a closed exhibition arena - lol.
How appealing is 40 million debt added onto 43-50 million debt.
Then try to sell the lot for a profit?
Makes 14 million kitten feed I would working in the buy ACL outright deal if I was SISU and forget the lets starve ACL out and cripple them with legal action plan
Havent SISU made an even poorer investment "it happens " ,why not the reverse of what you say and they give CCFC to ACL or someone who is willing to work with them ,and walk awayThey made a poor investment, it happens. And its not to save us, its because its not viable.
Its a more attractive proposition than buying a 3rd Division club that owns a ground but is £100m in debt.
''Now, more than ever, the new stadium is the only viable commercial option.''
I thought that the JR was just for the good of the citizens of Coventry and nothing to do with the build of a new stadium? Maybe my opinion that this has all been a way of getting the Ricoh on the cheap was somewhere nearer the truth than othrs want me to beleive?
but didn't RFC tell us that SISU would win the JR
''Now, more than ever, the new stadium is the only viable commercial option.''
I thought that the JR was just for the good of the citizens of Coventry and nothing to do with the build of a new stadium? Maybe my opinion that this has all been a way of getting the Ricoh on the cheap was somewhere nearer the truth than othrs want me to beleive?
And buy the £14m mortgage along with it? IVery appealing.
Was the ACL lease extended?Why not? There is a value to the asset. With the club paying reasonable rent, it had a value in line with the mortgage. So what's the stumbling block?
I cant see that being the case. I guess next years accounts will tell us, with no football and no major concerts etc...we shall see.
Who will go first Acl or the Club?
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