Saddlebrains
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Apparently so. But you want to add exciting signings to the already solid ones you have, not lose them no?
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Apparently so. But you want to add exciting signings to the already solid ones you have, not lose them no?
shmmeee
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What if you can only get three exciting signings if you trade in one solid one?
If your boss told you you're getting 20% less from now on would you just brush that off as fine because it 'isn't considerably less'? I doubt it.
I don't know what he signed for. That's the point. Grendel is speaking with absolute authority on something we know nothing about. The only thing we know for certain is his wage at Chelsea - the rest is conjecture.
Mucca Mad Boys
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Yes but you can’t stand in a player’s way really, if you cash in between £15-25m you’ve got enough cash to fund quality players. Add some kickbacks from Hamer and Gyokeres and you’ve got a good war chest.
Try being more optimistic, we’ve got a better squad overall than last year.
JSL
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Yes I was referring to Kitching. I was unaware that we had tracked him all summer and I was under the illusion that we went for him when McNally was priced out of our range with not a lot of time left in the transfer window. As said, when people know you have money to spend, they will ask silly money. Binks was a last minute dot com loan and he's hardly played but arguably he should have done.
JSL
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I stand corrected. It still remains that we only had 2 centre banks and a loan by the last week of August. What was the contingency if Kitching didnt sign?
While I appreciate you actually providing the receipts, if he went from making £110k a month with Chelsea, to £1 million a year with us, then that’s considerably less, yes. (It’s also less than £20k a week)
Great_Expectations
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Sheaf will be a massive loss. Building a team around him, Simms, Wright, EMC, Sakamoto, MVE, with a full pre season in Torp and an ever improving Eccles is exciting.
I put on the other Sheaf thread, it isn’t just his footballing ability. He’s been here a few years, knows what MR/AV expect, is respected by others and is a calming influence.
However, as genuinely gutting as it’ll be if he goes, he is replaceable (and I say that as a Sheaf fan from day one). The key is someone as near to ready made as we can find. We need to hit the ground running next season.
Still a strong squad and importantly we’re starting from a better position than last year. Get our business done early and it’s still exciting times ahead.
I put on the other Sheaf thread, it isn’t just his footballing ability. He’s been here a few years, knows what MR/AV expect, is respected by others and is a calming influence.
However, as genuinely gutting as it’ll be if he goes, he is replaceable (and I say that as a Sheaf fan from day one). The key is someone as near to ready made as we can find. We need to hit the ground running next season.
Still a strong squad and importantly we’re starting from a better position than last year. Get our business done early and it’s still exciting times ahead.
Unfortunately that only turns up info about his salary at Chelsea. Is there another court case that uncovered his Bristol City salary that you were referring to?
long way home
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Time to bring in a ready made Captain someone that will drive the team on. We need some smarts in team, someone that will demand high standard and at least 100% effort from all around him. A Doyle type i know it goes against the model but to get the good young players over the line they need help.
I have watched too many games this season where we are way to passive and look flimsy without the ball. Too quiet and too many times show no bite with out the ball.
I have watched too many games this season where we are way to passive and look flimsy without the ball. Too quiet and too many times show no bite with out the ball.
Come on Boosh, help me out! Just one link to the court case that uncovered his Bristol City salary!
Grendel
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He was given the same wage at Bristol - hardly taking less and Pearson when interviewed said it. Which is why they wanted him gone.
He had a year to run on that wage and turned Cardiff down as they would not match that salary in his contract
When he signed the wage bill was well over £30 million and he was the highest paid player - at £1.2 million a year and was going to stick it out unless a club matched the wages for the remainder of the contract
David O'Day
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David O'Day
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This, basically instead of paying something around a million for him we just took over his remaining year and yep he is now on less money.
mmttww
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Exactly. People acting like they've been jilted because two freebies aren't tearing it up. Doing my head in!
Grendel
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Yes. People seem oblivious to the fact our operational losses are at least £7 million a year. If Gyokeres does not move and we cannot sell Sheaf we have no capacity to operate in the transfer market.
Money has been squandered on Kitching and wages and long contracts to the likes of Dasilva.
Who can we buy when we are losing that much money?
Gynnsthetonic
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Sheaf, OHare, Gykores, Callum Doyle, Simms came from the Premier league, Your Kitchins, Da Silva, Collins Latibeaudiere etc were not, that premier quality does count for something
Boicey
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You seem to have quite a strange definition of ‘freebie’. I’m not sure Doug would agree.
shmmeee
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Leeds, Luton (then Chelsea), Chelsea, Man City.
mmttww
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Here's why I'm not concerned...
Simms, Wright, MVE
Good enough to play in a side that goes up automatically. Might be PL standard eventually.
Thomas, Kitching, Sakamoto, Torp
Look good enough to play in a top-six side and three of them have age on their side to develop.
Latibeaudiere, Collins, JDS
Shown in spells that they're as good as the second group, all have question marks against them.
That's last summer's recruitment from my POV. I'll back the same team to deliver in the summer.
Simms, Wright, MVE
Good enough to play in a side that goes up automatically. Might be PL standard eventually.
Thomas, Kitching, Sakamoto, Torp
Look good enough to play in a top-six side and three of them have age on their side to develop.
Latibeaudiere, Collins, JDS
Shown in spells that they're as good as the second group, all have question marks against them.
That's last summer's recruitment from my POV. I'll back the same team to deliver in the summer.
Do you have a link for that?
mmttww
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SkyblueTexan
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Agree that I am concerned. Usually we start poorly and finish the season strong. That usually sets up nicely for the next season. This season we started like shit and are finishing it even shittier (if that’s a word). Sandwiched in between was a run that coincided with Bidwell and Sakamoto getting extended minutes and playing in a formation that suits us. Conveniently we had the “gelling” excuse in the start and the “fatigue” excuse for the last month or so. We need to get some non-nonsense leaders in, build out a much bigger and better squad with permanent signings and loans (yes DK loans), retain the talent we have, get rid of the deadwood (some of which are in long contracts) . Only then can we get promoted. The long cup run has done more damage than good and we lost the plot on what was more important (league vs cup) along the way.
The watchmaker
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Ha, the transfer window hasn't even opened yet and... Let the bed wetting commence!!!
Sheaf is a good player but we are looking at losing 1/2 first team players this season (Sheaf/O'Hare) on our terms. That will be less players than the vast majority of the teams in our division.
Sheaf is a good player but we are looking at losing 1/2 first team players this season (Sheaf/O'Hare) on our terms. That will be less players than the vast majority of the teams in our division.
Tapped up at Wembley I think remarked about the fantastic support the club has!
Saddlebrains
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Our first choice target at the back last year was Andersen that went to Luton
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