Such an own goal for me. It’s 4 weeks. Chill out and have patienceChurch leaders launch legal challenge over lockdown closure
Pastors claim human right to express religious faith infringed by second lockdownwww.independent.co.uk
How about FO and get in line like the rest of us.
Yep. R of 1 still means 25000 or so infections doesn’t itCases in the Coventry area are going in the wrong direction again after seeming to level of and start to drop.
How the hell has ids more influence in this world than meCummings leaving mean we'll listen more, or less, to the scientists?
Cummings seemed to argue with them and get his own way sometimes, but more influence for the likes of Duncan Smith would suggest scientists would have less of a role in policy going forward.
Come off it, Cummings was not in charge.Cummings leaving mean we'll listen more, or less, to the scientists?
Cummings seemed to argue with them and get his own way sometimes, but more influence for the likes of Duncan Smith would suggest scientists would have less of a role in policy going forward.
He has, perversely, been a filter from the likes of IDS though - a man whose utter and total failure as a leader doesn't, for some reason, stop him from getting a seat at the top table.Come off it, Cummings was not in charge.
He has, perversely, been a filter from the likes of IDS though - a man whose utter and total failure as a leader doesn't, for some reason, stop him from getting a seat at the top table.
Depending on the path Boris takes (liberal)he knows he'll get the backing of Starmer , unless he swing's to the more hawkish zealots like IDS etc.He has, perversely, been a filter from the likes of IDS though - a man whose utter and total failure as a leader doesn't, for some reason, stop him from getting a seat at the top table.
Was Ed extreme?Won’t stop Ed Milliband either of labour were in power
As ever, Grendel's missing what failure is, too, in his attempts to divert from what a horrendous shitshow IDS was and is. William Hague had terrible election results, but wasn't an abject failure as leader - it was entirely sensible he'd end up in cabinet later, if he wanted it.Was Ed extreme?
Genuine question?
I do find it strange, does he know where the skelingtons areAs ever, Grendel's missing what failure is, too, in his attempts to divert from what a horrendous shitshow IDS was and is. William Hague had terrible election results, but wasn't an abject failure as leader - it was entirely sensible he'd end up in cabinet later, if he wanted it.
IDS however, hounded out by his own MPs for sub-Corbyn levels of feebleness. Yet now, apparently, has the ear of the great and the good?!?
Very true. We've got a prime opportunity here to change things for the better yet there seems to be a strong desire to go back to how things were to keep property developers and huge international companies happy.But then isn't private enterprise supposed to be about adapting to change better and those that do thrive and take the place of those that don't?
For example, if you're not supporting smaller city centre businesses (even though many offices etc are now out-of-town business parks and city centres are largely full of chain outlets) you could instead be supporting businesses on your local high st by getting lunch etc from shops near your house. Unneeded commercial property etc could be replaced with housing/apartments which we know are undersupplied. This allows city centre to reimagine themelves as areas people live in again with greater access to things like entertainment on the doorstep. It could rejuvenate them massively and make them quite desirable.
There's huge potential and opportunities in making the change.
Was Ed extreme?
Genuine question?
I was referencing him as an utter failure as a leader
As ever, Grendel's missing what failure is, too, in his attempts to divert from what a horrendous shitshow IDS was and is.
Nearly at 2k hospital admissions a day, the deaths without the arbitrary 28 day cut off are 60k+ already, it'll get pretty close to 100k by Christmas at this rate
Yes, new Labour is back most definitelyNow I think anti vaxxers are absolute roasters.
But scanning today's news I've seen articles about Labour wanting social media platforms to censor anti Vax content and in Denmark they want to introduce enforced vaccination for certain groups.
A bit draconian surely?
The focus groups don’t want their Twitter feeds full of this nonsense as it makes it more difficult to show off their Algarve photos and look for their next ski trip location.Now I think anti vaxxers are absolute roasters.
But scanning today's news I've seen articles about Labour wanting social media platforms to censor anti Vax content and in Denmark they want to introduce enforced vaccination for certain groups.
A bit draconian surely?
Depends what. An I don't want the vaccine because it's unproven yet - fine. A Bill Gates eats your babies, less fineNow I think anti vaxxers are absolute roasters.
But scanning today's news I've seen articles about Labour wanting social media platforms to censor anti Vax content and in Denmark they want to introduce enforced vaccination for certain groups.
A bit draconian surely?
If instant bans for sharing unlicensed football highlights is fine, but censoring people trying to undermine public health is draconian, then sign me up as draconian.
You think it will end there?
It's a slippery slope if you ask me, and If people don't want to get the vaccine fuck 'em, the more for the rest of us.
Depends what. An I don't want the vaccine because it's unproven yet - fine. A Bill Gates eats your babies, less fine
I'm basically on Facebook for groups to share my hobbies. Turns out the people who like my posts are reactionary swivel eyed loons. Some of the posts on their profile pages are all about how government want to control, and track (if they thought rationally, they'd realise that even if they wanted to, our government would be unable to track our movements, even if they implanted all of us) and how the flu vaccine is really Mercury and kills everyone who takes it.You think it will end there?
It's a slippery slope if you ask me, and If people don't want to get the vaccine fuck 'em, the more for the rest of us.
As said below, if a vaccine is only 90% effective, to damp rates it needs more to have it.I think we’d all have it if that was the only we’d get herd immunity/protect others but otherwise I’d be in no rush to take for myself - that might well change when we know more about Covid and/or vaccines though
A quick google suggests exactly that. In the UK the aim for existing vaccines is 95% uptake. At that point the infamous herd immunity kicks in as circulation drops, below that you have things like the measles outbreak in Wales a few years back.As said below, if a vaccine is only 90% effective, to damp rates it needs more to have it.
Cases in the Coventry area are going in the wrong direction again after seeming to level of and start to drop.
Now I think anti vaxxers are absolute roasters.
But scanning today's news I've seen articles about Labour wanting social media platforms to censor anti Vax content and in Denmark they want to introduce enforced vaccination for certain groups.
A bit draconian surely?
A quick google suggests exactly that. In the UK the aim for existing vaccines is 95% uptake. At that point the infamous herd immunity kicks in as circulation drops, below that you have things like the measles outbreak in Wales a few years back.
If the vaccine is 90% effective think what happens if only half the country agrees to have it, still huge potential for outbreaks and the NHS being overrun. Hopefully the anti-vexers are a loud but very small group and most people will have it so we can get back to something approaching normal by next summer.
Surprised Brazil is so high, given their leader.One of the many things I’m proud of the U.K. for is that we have among the lowest levels of anti vaccine sentiment in the world:
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And the few who say they wouldn’t take it are young and not at risk so aren’t 100% definite nuts.
Haven’t seen the data, but does it correlate with half term at all?
For background, I left Labour in the early 2000s because of their authoritarian tendencies. However in this case I think it’s spot on. Anti vaccine bollocks has the potential to kill considerably more than terrorism and do significantly more economic damage. A lot of it is pushed by hostile state actors.
It’s a criminal, health and security issue and we’ve set precedent with anti terror laws that we should crack down on it. Even then telling SM sites they have a broadcasting responsibility isn’t new here and no one AFAIK is taking about prosecuting individual nutters.
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