Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (240 Viewers)

shmmeee · Dec 24, 2020

Brighton Sky Blue said:
No asymptomatic patients in that study?

Ah sorry of course. Though how can you have ongoing symptoms and be asymptomatic?

But yeah, that’s moderate to severe COVID not mild COVID. My mistake.

Found this for asymptomatic people, suggests similar numbers though obviously not as severe consequences. Lung damage is never good but I imagine there’s had a fag once and forty a day for decades levels.

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Overview

COVID-19 is a new type of coronavirus that causes mild to severe cases. Here’s a quick guide on how to spot symptoms, risk factors, prevent spread of the disease, and find out what to do if you think you have it.

www.webmd.com

Brighton Sky Blue · Dec 24, 2020

shmmeee said:
Ah sorry of course. Though how can you have ongoing symptoms and be asymptomatic?

If you have studies there on asymptomatic patients I’ll have a look.

shmmeee · Dec 24, 2020

Brighton Sky Blue said:
If you have studies there on asymptomatic patients I’ll have a look.

See edit. Seems inconclusive TBH. There’s definitely lung damage, though it’s less than symptomatic patients. What the impact of that damage might be is an open question.

Brighton Sky Blue · Dec 24, 2020

Less to do with health effects and more transmission, this came out a few days ago

Asymptomatic transmission of covid-19

What we know, and what we don’t The UK’s £100bn “Operation Moonshot” to roll out mass testing for covid-19 to cities and universities around the country raises two key questions. How infectious are people who test positive but have no symptoms? And, what is their contribution to transmission of...

www.bmj.com

Written by someone who was in independent SAGE, it argues why mass testing of everyone in a case area is a waste of testing resources and time in the absence of hard evidence over asymptomatic transmission. It also explains quite clearly the limitations of the PCR test versus a viral culture test (no TikTok videos by the way).

Deleted member 5849 · Dec 24, 2020

fernandopartridge said:
High blood pressure, obesity to name but two very common conditions

Indeed. And asthma - turns out autism is in the list too...

It's a bit 52-48

LastGarrison · Dec 24, 2020

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Organise my stag if you like, Dom’s gone off the radar

I’ll whore myself out to any Stag Do going so you’re on!!

{Quickly Google’s whether a visa is needed for the ‘Dorm}

Nick · Dec 24, 2020

LastGarrison said:
I’ll whore myself out to any Stag Do going so you’re on!!

{Quickly Google’s whether a visa is needed for the ‘Dorm}

There's always the random that nobody knows who they are, the brides cousins ex boyfriend baby daddy.

To be fair they are usually the ones who are still up at 5am chatting shit with a kebab with you when everybody else has gone.

Like Alan from the Hangover.

Brighton Sky Blue · Dec 24, 2020

Nick said:
There's always the random that nobody knows who they are, the brides cousins ex boyfriend baby daddy.

To be fair they are usually the ones who are still up at 5am chatting shit with a kebab with you when everybody else has gone.

Like Alan from the Hangover.

I envisage someone more like Gareth Keenan, dark horse

LastGarrison · Dec 25, 2020

Brighton Sky Blue said:
I envisage someone more like Gareth Keenan, dark horse

Do you know who’s a dark horse?

Black Beauty.

Nick · Dec 25, 2020

LastGarrison said:
Do you know who’s a dark horse?

Black Beauty.

He's a hard faced bastard

The man in the iron mask

Brighton Sky Blue · Dec 25, 2020

Nick said:
He's a hard faced bastard

The man in the iron mask

LastGarrison · Dec 25, 2020

Nick said:
He's a hard faced bastard

The man in the iron mask

I can’t get over it.

12ft wall.

Bugsy · Dec 26, 2020

LastGarrison said:
I can’t get over it.

12ft wall.

One thing I can't get my head around.

A lampost.

Brighton Sky Blue · Dec 26, 2020

A slightly oddly written story but cutting through the guff, some quite promising news with the imminent approval of the Oxford vaccine

Britain could be free of lockdowns by February with Oxford's Covid vaccine | Daily Mail Online

We'll_live_and_die · Dec 27, 2020

I’ve come down with a right stinking cold. I know that blocked nose and sinuses aren’t symptoms but you can’t help but worry eh.

ajsccfc · Dec 27, 2020

Sick Boy · Dec 27, 2020

ajsccfc said:

Fantastic news!

Sky Blue Pete · Dec 27, 2020

Sick Boy said:
Fantastic news!

I presume Trump will get the credit he and brexit deserve for this

chiefdave · Dec 28, 2020

Being reported that Sage have advised secondary schools stay closed but Gove has been doing the media rounds today saying they will open.
Michael Gove Says Schools Will Reopen Next Month But Scientists Are Reportedly Advising Against It

fernandopartridge · Dec 28, 2020

One of the SAGE members has done a thread on what a crisis situation we're in.

David O'Day · Dec 28, 2020

fernandopartridge said:
One of the SAGE members has done a thread on what a crisis situation we're in.

i'd argue it's bet to have a more contagious than deadly virus as it is easier to combat transmittability than deadly

Brighton Sky Blue · Dec 28, 2020

fernandopartridge said:
One of the SAGE members has done a thread on what a crisis situation we're in.

Keep calm and roll out the vaccines.

Saddlebrains · Dec 28, 2020

Just read an article from a doctor stating that we won't have normality for another year. Her reasoning being it will take 50 weeks to vaccinate 50 million people.

However, correct me if im talking shit, but surely we dont need to vaccinate anywhere near the whole population before we can attempt normality? You would have thought that as long as the elderly, vulnerable, asthmatics etc have been immunised, that will stop the deaths and hospitalisations?

And thats the whole point isnt it? We're stuck with the virus its now endemic. We just need to make sure the vulnerable are vaccinated while the rest of us either do or dont have it?

hill83 · Dec 28, 2020

Vaccinate the vulnerable. Protect the NHS. Open the pubs. Just in time for the playoff push.

Deleted member 5849 · Dec 28, 2020

Saddlebrains said:
Just read an article from a doctor stating that we won't have normality for another year. Her reasoning being it will take 50 weeks to vaccinate 50 million people.

However, correct me if im talking shit, but surely we dont need to vaccinate anywhere near the whole population before we can attempt normality? You would have thought that as long as the elderly, vulnerable, asthmatics etc have been immunised, that will stop the deaths and hospitalisations?

And thats the whole point isnt it? We're stuck with the virus its now endemic. We just need to make sure the vulnerable are vaccinated while the rest of us either do or dont have it?

The vaccine isn't 100%, and it's not clear if it stops you contracting it, or just makes you asymptomatic.

So, you need enough to reach that heard immunity, which means people beyond those groups too.

Plus, there's growing evidence of long term damage in people regardless, so you want to stop that, to keep a healthy workforce, for maximum economic benefit in years to come, and less needing costly treatment / aid.

Liquid Gold · Dec 28, 2020

Proper lockdown in Jan, including schools and universities, and continue vaccinating as many as possible.

hill83 · Dec 28, 2020

I’m sure I read about something being trialled that was for people who haven’t been vaccinated but have caught Covid that essentially stops all symptoms.

Edit: This. Bit different to what I’ve said above.

UK scientists trial drug to prevent infection that leads to Covid

Exclusive: Antibody therapy could confer instant immunity to Covid-19 on at-risk groups

www.google.co.uk

Massive unless I’m misinterpreting what they are saying. But it’s not being talked about anywhere.

Deleted member 5849 · Dec 28, 2020

hill83 said:
I’m sure I read about something being trialled that was for people who haven’t been vaccinated but have caught Covid that essentially stops all symptoms.

That would be lovely!

Sick Boy · Dec 28, 2020

Another year of this would be beyond shite

hill83 · Dec 28, 2020

My test came back negative if anyone cares by the way.

Feel free to do the “still got aids though” joke that everyone I’ve told has done.

fernandopartridge · Dec 28, 2020

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Keep calm and roll out the vaccines.

It isn't going to happen anywhere near quickly enough, let's be realistic.

clint van damme · Dec 28, 2020

liste

hill83 said:
My test came back negative if anyone cares by the way.

Feel free to do the “still got aids though” joke that everyone I’ve told has done.

the plague has eaten the aids mate, it's no laughing matter.

clint van damme · Dec 28, 2020

Sick Boy said:
Another year of this would be beyond shite

I think the next 2 to 3 months will be the toughest of all, I think things will start to improve after that though things won't be back to 'normal' for a long time.

Sky Blue Pete · Dec 28, 2020

Only 42000 positives in the last 24 hours should be fine

Darth Robins · Dec 28, 2020

hill83 said:
My test came back negative if anyone cares by the way.

Feel free to do the “still got aids though” joke that everyone I’ve told has done.

Is it the good aids or bad aids?

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