Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (11 Viewers)

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I think you are right on the timing but you know I just don’t trust the government not to totally drop the bollock on this. Just look at the narrative in the papers and on the TV in the last few days... it’s there for a reason. A plan has to include a vaccination schedule, staggered return and a guarantee that safety will be paramount. Otherwise we’ll be discussing this again in Lockdown 5 at the end of the year, after killing a lot more people because they didn’t get this last bit right.

Said this last month. Decide on a vaccination target (2 jabs given, not 1 offered) combined with an NHS capacity target if needs be that needs to be hit before x level of reopening.

 

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[Philosoraptor]

He didn't really save anything. He stepped down because he was going to lose his seat as well as most other Scottish Labour MPs. The rout up here is total for Labour.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

1631 deaths each one a tragedy

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Only 20000 infections though so numbers coming down rapidly which is good

 

[Philosoraptor]

Always good to show the problem Labour has in Scotland.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Reminded that Chris Whitty said we’d have done well if we reach 20000 deaths so five times as many, is that terrible or criminal or just bad luck?

 

[Philosoraptor]

Only 20000 infections though so numbers coming down rapidly which is good

The question though is how rapidly is that going to shoot up again when restrictions are lifted.

 

[Grendel]

Reminded that Chris Whitty said we’d have done well if we reach 20000 deaths so five times as many, is that terrible or criminal or just bad luck?

neither and I thought it was Ferguson not Whitty

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Condolences from Boris!!!! Compensation is probably what’s required

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

neither and I thought it was Ferguson not Whitty

It was Whitty and why?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

neither and I thought it was Ferguson not Whitty

Deaths caused by criminal negligence

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Deaths caused by criminal negligence

It’s got to be hasn’t it?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Boris talks as if there’s nothing that could have been done about any of it. Crocodile tears mate when you locked down too late again in December. They reckon a week delay led to 20000 more deaths

 

[Philosoraptor]

I will be amazed if Parliament lasts for the full term after this pandemic is over. Tough questions will need to be asked all around.

 

[hill83]

Brown is very popular in Scotland

Lovely

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It’s got to be hasn’t it?

People have gone to prison for much, much less

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

So nothing new then. Brilliant

 

[Kieranp96]

Marketing what? They're going to use it with millions of their own people

So what spread bollocks about it not being effective?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

‘We did everything we could’ says Bullshit Boris

 

[hill83]

I mean, let's be honest, none of it is going to be classed as criminal.

 

[Philosoraptor]

I think it shows how out of touch most people are with politics away from Westminster. When you have a populist left-leaning party in Scotland compared to Westminster then it is going to leave most things screwed for everyone in England.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Question asked now about 20000.
Appallih tragic loss of life - need to work together

no answer or responsibility taken at all

 

[Grendel]

It was Whitty and why?

Well

UK coronavirus deaths could reach 7,000 to 20,000: Ferguson

UK deaths from the coronavirus could rise to between about 7,000 and 20,000 under measures taken to slow the spread of the virus, Neil Ferguson, a professor at Imperial College in London who has helped shape the government's response, said on Sunday.

www.google.co.uk

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I mean, let's be honest, none of it is going to be classed and criminal.

It won’t be Hill, I know that, it doesn’t mean that it isn’t

 

[Grendel]

Question asked now about 20000.
Appallih tragic loss of life - need to work together

no answer or responsibility taken at all

It won’t be Hill, I know that, it doesn’t mean that it isn’t

well it isn’t or every leader in Europe will be in the Hague - it will be a big courtroom

 

[Ian1779]

I will be amazed if Parliament lasts for the full term after this pandemic is over. Tough questions will need to be asked all around.

In a normal country this is totally correct. But here, there is no one to ask the questions. The opposition won’t even do it for fucks sake.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Well

UK coronavirus deaths could reach 7,000 to 20,000: Ferguson

UK deaths from the coronavirus could rise to between about 7,000 and 20,000 under measures taken to slow the spread of the virus, Neil Ferguson, a professor at Imperial College in London who has helped shape the government's response, said on Sunday.

www.google.co.uk

Sorry it was Patrick Vallance

Coronavirus: 20,000 UK deaths would be 'good outcome', Sir Patrick Vallance said in March

The government's chief science adviser, Sir Patrick Vallance, has said the aim is to keep the number of coronavirus deaths below 20,000.

news.sky.com

Before the public accounts committee

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

well it isn’t or every leader in Europe will be in the Hague - it will be a big courtroom

One of the worst set of figures in the world and still refusing to admit he did anything wrong with the chief apologist Whitty trying to deflect for him

 

[hill83]

It won’t be Hill, I know that, it doesn’t mean that it isn’t

Not for me.

 

[Philosoraptor]

In a normal country this is totally correct. But here, there is no one to ask the questions. The opposition won’t even do it for fucks sake.

Now is not the time for a call of no confidence in a petition to Parliament. I can see it happening though when we come out the other side.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Not for me.

Agree to disagree then.

 

[Philosoraptor]

100,000 deaths are up there with WW2 in timeframe.

 

[hill83]

Agree to disagree then.

Surely a forum first.

 

[skybluetony176]

So what spread bollocks about it not being effective?

No one said it wasn’t effective.

 

[hill83]

Boris winding in his "we are doing better than the EU" rhetoric today then. Twitchy?

Edit: Maybe not ha ha