jimmyhillsfanclub
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Well.....they haven't succumbed to the political pressure / collective madness and suspended the AZ vaccine for one.....
Why are Malta doing well then considering they are in the EU?
That sounds like you are saying that even though they are in the EU they can still make their own decisions.Well.....they haven't succumbed to the political pressure / collective madness and suspended the AZ vaccine for one.....
Yay for Covid 19, the saviour of Brexit.They just had a British lady on radio 2 and she lives in a town of 18,000 in France and her local GP gets 6 doses of the vaccine a week to share around,Also only 1.5% of adults in Luxembourg have taken up the vaccine.
How sad,Glad were out of the club!!
To be fair Malta has a population of 500k and have vaccined 17%.... That's 85,000 people... It's hardly groundbreaking is it, the capacity of a big football stadium... Coventry and Warwickshire alone have vaccined much more peopleThat sounds like you are saying that even though they are in the EU they can still make their own decisions.
Yay for Covid 19, the saviour of Brexit.
Except that it was individual countries own sovereign governments that stopped the rollout not the EU, hence less than a third of countries in the EU stopped the roll out. Aside from that though...The vaccine rollout has shown the EU up tbh.. Irrespective of brexit.
Germany, Spain, France and Italy have given less 1st doses than the UK combined and you could add a good few more countries in there and it would still be less
And we are, for better or worse, the live trial on how to give out the vaccines, too...Except that it was individual countries own sovereign governments that stopped the rollout not the EU, hence less than a third of countries in the EU stopped the roll out. Aside from that though...
New Zealand has one of the lowest roll outs in the world yet they’re not in the EU. Brazil, well it’s just an absolute mess their and their not in the EU. Most EU countries if not all are on or around the world average on the roll out just to give it some actual perspective.
edit. Actually just checked. All EU countries are 2-3 times higher than the world average.
Not the point.To be fair Malta has a population of 500k and have vaccined 17%.... That's 85,000 people... It's hardly groundbreaking is it, the capacity of a big football stadium... Coventry and Warwickshire alone have vaccined much more people
Actually.. The EU member states signed a collective agreement to allow Brussels to order the vaccines as a collective rather than individually... And they were slow to do so...Except that it was individual countries own sovereign governments that stopped the rollout not the EU, hence less than a third of countries in the EU stopped the roll out. Aside from that though...
New Zealand has one of the lowest roll outs in the world yet they’re not in the EU. Brazil, well it’s just an absolute mess their and their not in the EU. Most EU countries if not all are on or around the world average on the roll out just to give it some actual perspective.
Well it is really... A high percentage of a small number means very littleNot the point.
48/52 - lets call it off now, the country has decided
It's really picking up this week like has been predicted. I think it's the first time we've done 100k 2nd doses in one day too.We're doing good... Just keep it going I guess
Two different things. You’re confusing the purchasing of vaccines with the rollout of vaccines. Even then all EU countries had the option to go it alone on on purchasing. The fact that they didn’t was a decision made by their own sovereign governments. We opted out while still a de facto member for instance. I think Hungary did too as a full member, others may have too. Hungary has also approved the Russian vaccine as a full EU member. Italy I think I read somewhere is not only about to approve it they’re also going to start producing it under license. We haven’t done that either before or after the transition period after leaving the EU.Actually.. The EU member states signed a collective agreement to allow Brussels to order the vaccines as a collective rather than individually... And they were slow to do so...
A quote from the European commission president Ursula von der Leyen in a BBC article last week
"We were late to authorise. We were too optimistic when it came to massive production and perhaps too confident that what we ordered would actually be delivered on time."
Two different things. You’re confusing the purchasing of vaccines with the rollout of vaccines. Even then all EU countries had the option to go it alone on on purchasing. The fact that they didn’t was a decision made by their own sovereign governments. We opted out while still a de facto member for instance. I think Hungary did too as a full member, others may have too. Hungary has also approved the Russian vaccine as a full EU member. Italy I think I read somewhere is not only about to approve it they’re also going to start producing it under license. We haven’t done that either before or after the transition period after leaving the EU.
Poor compared to us and a handful of other countries. On the world stage they’re still way above average. They’ve definitely made mistakes though. But then who hasn’t during this pandemic.Ok fair enough
They've done poorly though, individually collectively however it is.. Europe have been poor with the vaccine rollout .
And we should correctly praise the way we've managed this rollout
Doesn't have to be a brexit thing
Hopefully that's additional supplies and they've already ringfences the ones to give second doses. Not leaving any leeway and then running out of doses would be a fucking disaster.Word coming out of a ‘major shortage’ of vaccine supplies for a month.
Agreed! It does say nobody who's already booked an appointment should have it cancelled, so (hopefully!) all is OK.Hopefully that's additional supplies and they've already ringfences the ones to give second doses. Not leaving any leeway and then running out of doses would be a fucking disaster.
Hopefully that's additional supplies and they've already ringfences the ones to give second doses. Not leaving any leeway and then running out of doses would be a fucking disaster.
Another remoaner can’t you just admit that this country have got it right regarding the vaccine roll out and the beloved EU have failed miserably and those countries suspending it will have blood on their hands with the extra deaths?Yay for Covid 19, the saviour of Brexit.
Another remoaner can’t you just admit that this country have got it right regarding the vaccine roll out and the beloved EU have failed miserably and those countries suspending it will have blood on their hands with the extra deaths?
Macron and Merkel should hold their heads in shame also Van Der Leyen now saying she’ll block the vaccine being delivered to the uk and you all still want to be in the EU club?
Have a word with yourselves!!!
Whatever you do don’t let facts cloud your judgment.Another remoaner can’t you just admit that this country have got it right regarding the vaccine roll out and the beloved EU have failed miserably and those countries suspending it will have blood on their hands with the extra deaths?
Macron and Merkel should hold their heads in shame also Van Der Leyen now saying she’ll block the vaccine being delivered to the uk and you all still want to be in the EU club?
Have a word with yourselves!!!
Btw had my first jab today and what a lovely feeling from the woman directing me in the car park to the two ladies in the room one on the pc and the nurse giving me the jab.
Everyone so positive and happy getting things done!!
Word coming out of a ‘major shortage’ of vaccine supplies for a month.
If me and others having to wait guarantees people get their second dose of Pfizer, that's worth doing!Yeah, looks that way. Strange. By all accounts the plan was to ramp things up from this/next week. Hopefully the NHS letter being referred to is overly cautious (rightly so they’ve got to retain sufficient for second doses). Wonder if this is anything to do with EU threat today
Glad we could have a fair debate just seems the EU need to realise what their doing by halting the vaccine atm hope they come to their senses nothing against Europe tbh hope we all get vaccinated.Whatever you do don’t let facts cloud your judgment.
Fact 1. I’ve never said anything other than we’ve got it right.
Fact 2. I’ve never said that the EU got it right.
F me. No one has more blood on their hands than Boris. Highest death toll in Europe, one of the highest death rates in the world. That really is a hole no brexiteer should go down.
Macron has been a dick, full stop. Merkel if you want to look at the facts has actually upheld Germany’s sovereign law, nothing more nothing less.
Van Der Leyen hasn’t got the power to do what she’s “threatening”. There’s also the small matter that EU manufactured vaccines need ingredients from the U.K. so she can’t afford to block vaccines for fear of retaliatory measures such as blocking export of active ingredients.
Yes I still want to be in the EU club, I want my rights back as a British citizens. No one voted leave on the basis of a pandemic response, we’ve not done anything we couldn’t have done had we still been members and if Brexit was so great you’d be all over the Brexit thread gloating not clutching to a straw man argument on a pandemic thread.
Glad you’ve had your vaccine, had mine too and agree it was a very positive experience and all the staff were excellent. Must be the best job in the world at the moment.
And yet, somewhat predictable.Hopefully that's additional supplies and they've already ringfences the ones to give second doses. Not leaving any leeway and then running out of doses would be a fucking disaster.
Another remoaner can’t you just admit that this country have got it right regarding the vaccine roll out and the beloved EU have failed miserably and those countries suspending it will have blood on their hands with the extra deaths?
Macron and Merkel should hold their heads in shame also Van Der Leyen now saying she’ll block the vaccine being delivered to the uk and you all still want to be in the EU club?
Have a word with yourselves!!!
Btw had my first jab today and what a lovely feeling from the woman directing me in the car park to the two ladies in the room one on the pc and the nurse giving me the jab.
Everyone so positive and happy getting things done!!
I've turned off all news alerts on my phone, was sending my anxiety through the roof. Don't watch the news either but obviously still see what is being said on here and social media, although I try to stick to my own social media feed and not get lost in trending topics.On a general point, I wish I could switch the news off. I've tried avoiding this thread, avoiding news on TV/ radio, but it still creeps through somehow! We certainly get too much information nowadays, and there's always a worry in it. We can't control whatever happens here and, I'd like to know of course if we've cocked up, but until that point it just adds extra worry onto things.
There's something to be said for walking around oblivious until you fall down dead!
Yes we made mistakes I agree but who knew how do things with the global pandemic it was listen to the scientists week by weekeverybody's admitted the country has got it right regarding the vaccine.
When are you going to admit the government so many things wrong it has given us one of the worlds highest per capita deaths and a 37 billion track and trace system not fit for purpose?
Over 120k dead, aren't you bothered?
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