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shmmeee

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Coventry South isn't going Tory in the next GE - From speaking to the locals we are getting support back from 2019 and Sultana despite what the press may say about her is actually quite popular.

I hope so. The demographic of the area is increasingly Tory friendly. You’d hope 2019 was our low point though.

Sultana has improved a lot TBF.
 

wingy

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March 18, 2021 9:59 am by Sarah Neville and Jasmine Cameron-Chileshe in London and Stephanie Findlay in New Delhi
Rising demand for supplies from a key Indian manufacturer of the Oxford/AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine is hampering its ability to send doses to the UK, people familiar with the situation have told the Financial Times.
The latest development emerged as the UK government comes under growing pressure to explain a “significant” reduction in vaccine supplies which has delayed the rollout to people aged under 50 with no underlying health conditions.
People briefed on the situation suggested a key pinch point was supply that had been expected to arrive from the Serum Institute in India to boost the volumes already available. A total of 10m doses had been expected to enter the UK although there had been no timeframe specified for the shipments, they said. Of that, 5m doses were sent several weeks ago.
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Robert Jenrick, UK housing secretary, refused on Thursday to give details about the delay other than to say the government only learnt there were going to be supply issues with the vaccine “in the last few days”.
“I don’t think it is right for me to say exactly what the issue is or with which manufacturer or in which factory — a number of global manufacturers are experiencing issues and we source vaccines from a number of manufacturers from all over the world,” he told the BBC’s Today programme.
Discussing vaccine exports in the Indian parliament on Wednesday, foreign minister Subrahmanyam Jaishankar did not say they had been banned but said supply was “based on assessment of adequate availability at home”.
“This is continuously monitored and takes into account the requirements of our domestic vaccination programme as it unfolds in different phases,” he said.
Staff involved in the UK vaccination programme were told on Wednesday the fall in supply available from the week beginning March 29 meant the amount available for first doses would be “significantly constrained”. They were instructed by NHS leaders to freeze all further bookings for April, including for all under-50s — the next cohort due to be inoculated.
AstraZeneca issued a statement on Wednesday evening insisting its “domestic supply chain is not experiencing any disruption and there is no impact on our delivery schedule”. UK manufacturers are capable of supplying the entire 100m doses that AstraZeneca is contracted to provide to Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s government.
One person familiar with the situation rejected the suggestion that there had been a delay, saying the UK had not been given a precise timetable for delivery of the doses. The rising demand from the Indian government was affecting availability for exports, they said. The Serum Institute declined to comment.

The number of infections, and the rate of vaccinations, in the south Asian country has been picking up in recent weeks, prompting pressure from the government to to assess domestic demand and make shipments accordingly, the insiders said.

The rest of the doses would arrive in the UK very soon, they said, but noted the timing would depend on domestic requirements. Issues with supply from Serum were first reported by the Telegraph.
Jenrick said that any new manufacturing process would have “its ups and downs”, but argued the government was confident it would be able to meet its target of offering the vaccine to all those in its top nine priority groups by mid-April and all adults by the end of July
 
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Coventry South isn't going Tory in the next GE - From speaking to the locals we are getting support back from 2019 and Sultana despite what the press may say about her is actually quite popular.
2019 was a weak spot - desperately unpopular leader, two established MPs going and non-locals being parachuted in. Fletcher held onto her seat comfortably so, with the new MPs having had time to show what they can do (and they both seem to work quite hard) you'd think they'll establish themselves more.
 

David O'Day

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I hope so. The demographic of the area is increasingly Tory friendly. You’d hope 2019 was our low point though.

Sultana has improved a lot TBF.

While it NW isn't going to go tory either I'd be more worried about there.

The richer people are still far less than the "locals" and are not as right wing as you'd think.


Sultana is doing a good job of being seen to be fighting for Cov south interests which is more than some people thought.
 

shmmeee

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While it NW isn't going to go tory either I'd be more worried about there.

The richer people are still far less than the "locals" and are not as right wing as you'd think.


Sultana is doing a good job of being seen to be fighting for Cov south interests which is more than some people thought.

Funny you say that, just saw a model on Twitter that predicts how strong each seat is and NW was indeed the weakest Labour seat in Cov.
 

David O'Day

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2019 was a weak spot - desperately unpopular leader, two established MPs going and non-locals being parachuted in. Fletcher held onto her seat comfortably so, with the new MPs having had time to show what they can do (and they both seem to work quite hard) you'd think they'll establish themselves more.

2019 was a case of as you say a deeply unpopular leader, brexit (remember cov voted solidly leave, while the party had an awful remain position) and a badly fought ground game.


We will see Starmer be a lot more popular when we can doorstep again, sultana admits she wasn't great on the campaign (Cunningham used to seemingly knock on most doors himself) and a load of other things like being seen to actually like the country you want to lead.



Hartlepool will be interesting, if Tice doesn't run in some form (Brexit/reform/whatever party) be interesting to see if the medias weird idea that all BP votes will vote tory if the BP aren't running idea is correct.
 

David O'Day

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Also at the GE it's likely at the moment the Johnson is not the candidate. Sunak is the only other popular at the moment tory and they are briefing against him as well.
 

Ian1779

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From who? Richard Burgon? 🤣

We get measures of Labour’s popularity every week or so from the polls. Currently it’s enough to deny a majority in a GE but not get one. Which is about the best you can expect after 2019.
I don’t think there should be a challenge, but if there was one, I don’t think it would come from the left of the party.
 

chiefdave

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Coventry South isn't going Tory in the next GE - From speaking to the locals we are getting support back from 2019 and Sultana despite what the press may say about her is actually quite popular.
I've been pleasantly surprised by Sultana, seems to work hard and actually get involved in the local area. Think the Conservatives are going to need someone much better than Mattie Haven at the next election if they want to take the seat. She appeared at my door during the campaign and was absolutely clueless. Think she's found her ideal role as a local councillor who blames everything on the Labour council.

Oddly my Mum, lifelong Tory voter, think Sultana is the best MP she'e ever had!
 

Nick

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I've been pleasantly surprised by Sultana, seems to work hard and actually get involved in the local area. Think the Conservatives are going to need someone much better than Mattie Haven at the next election if they want to take the seat. She appeared at my door during the campaign and was absolutely clueless. Think she's found her ideal role as a local councillor who blames everything on the Labour council.

Oddly my Mum, lifelong Tory voter, think Sultana is the best MP she'e ever had!

Hopefully there will be no sour grapes.
 

Ian1779

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Hartlepool will be interesting, if Tice doesn't run in some form (Brexit/reform/whatever party) be interesting to see if the medias weird idea that all BP votes will vote tory if the BP aren't running idea is correct.
I wonder how much of the BP vote will ‘return’ to Labour now it’s done with?
 

David O'Day

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I wonder how much of the BP vote will ‘return’ to Labour now it’s done with?

Could be more than the commentators think. Hartlepool could be down to ground game and gotv on the day. Labour still has a far better ground game than the tories.

Be interesting.
 

shmmeee

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I don’t think there should be a challenge, but if there was one, I don’t think it would come from the left of the party.

Literally no one else is threatening a challenge. A challenge won’t happen. The soft left are too soft, the right realise they’ve got nothing, and the left need more than the SCG stanning Burgon.

Labour as a rule dont sack shit leaders, that’s how Corbyn got 5 years despite his record. They definitely don’t sack leaders doing what was expected of them. The only people even talking about it are online left wing groups who think “Keith” is the height of wit. It’s not happening.
 

Skybluefaz

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Could be more than the commentators think. Hartlepool could be down to ground game and gotv on the day. Labour still has a far better ground game than the tories.

Be interesting.
Is this why the express and mail are cranking up the anti immigrant rhetoric? (again). With these elections on the horizon it will give the Tories a boost for some reason.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Could be more than the commentators think. Hartlepool could be down to ground game and gotv on the day. Labour still has a far better ground game than the tories.

Be interesting.

Shouldn’t even be a contest but the clown will probably tell a few jokes and it’ll go Tory by 5000+
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Both my kids are home now and at the rates their school is currently sending kids home it will be closed by the end week.

The last bit is anecdotal not factual but I really wouldn’t be surprised.

I am now having to teach classes that are half in the room and half at home. It’s almost like I foresaw this exact scenario
 

skybluetony176

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He's standing in an election that could see Khan win in the first round of a system that is designed to stop people winning in the first round.
On his Twitter feed where he announced he’s running someone replied something along the lines of you’ll split the Tory vote and hand Khan victory. I’m assuming that it was tongue in cheek.
 

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