Sick Boy
Super Moderator
Great post.
Great post.That's not even remotely true. He remains a dangerous man who, as he admits himself, should have been nowhere near power. He is the architect of Brexit so if you trash him you are admitting Brexit was built by a maverick.
It all demonstrates what we've known all along that we are led by donkeys.
Nobody who knew he was in the wrong last year has changed their minds about him. What he says is only to be believed if
1) the evidence we know about (or emerges in time) supports his account.
2) the counter points made by Boris fans falls apart.
What is obvious to me is that some people are so tied to being right about Brexit and Johnson that they will ignore the truth that we have a shambolic government.
Incidentally he made two points that, to me, were beyond dispute
- he called it crackers that people like him and Johnson were anywhere near power
- he said the system that gave us a choice between two disastrous leaders, Johnson and Corbyn, was catastrophic.
That's not even remotely true. He remains a dangerous man who, as he admits himself, should have been nowhere near power. He is the architect of Brexit so if you trash him you are admitting Brexit was built by a maverick.
It all demonstrates what we've known all along that we are led by donkeys.
Nobody who knew he was in the wrong last year has changed their minds about him. What he says is only to be believed if
1) the evidence we know about (or emerges in time) supports his account.
2) the counter points made by Boris fans fall apart.
What is obvious to me is that some people are so tied to being right about Brexit and Johnson that they will ignore the truth that we have a shambolic government.
Incidentally he made two points that, to me, were beyond dispute
- he called it crackers that people like him and Johnson were anywhere near power
- he said the system that gave us a choice between two disastrous leaders, Johnson and Corbyn, was catastrophic.
It's still the care homes stuff that gets to me the most. Someone should face criminal charges for the way they let some of the countries most vulnerable people die by not testing before they sent residents back.
And there it is.
CON + 12
Autumn winter too delaying the lockdown againYes if there is 1 thing nobody on this island should be protecting johnson over ... it's his initial handling of the pandemic .
It was catastrophic
Alot of decisions didn't make sense , and let's be honest ...he didn't take it seriously enough .
Course he’s said so tooCummings comes over very Steve bannon like though doesn't he .
Bit of an oddball , dead inside , scarily careless .
On a side note , doesn't Cummings have any part to play in this as his advisor ?
Autumn winter too delaying the lockdown again
On a side note , doesn't Cummings have any part to play in this as his advisor ?
Yes definitely. He has admitted he got plenty wrong.
But seems to be claiming that it was mostly Hancock and Johnson that continually fucked up.
Not sure he takes a lot seriously.Yes if there is 1 thing nobody on this island should be protecting johnson over ... it's his initial handling of the pandemic .
It was catastrophic
Alot of decisions didn't make sense , and let's be honest ...he didn't take it seriously enough .
Autumn winter too delaying the lockdown again
Even then it’s the experts (and the NHS) who’ve been responsible.The only thing they've got right is the vaccine rollout, which to be fair has been exceptional
Problem is , there are genuinely millions of people that believe he's done well with this whole pandemic .
Even if the Conservatives are your party of choice , atleast call a spade a spade .
The only thing they've got right is the vaccine rollout, which to be fair has been exceptional
Even if the Conservatives are your party of choice , atleast call a spade a spade .
Even then it’s the experts (and the NHS) who’ve been responsible.
Hancock is weasel, especially pretending to cry on live TV.
Hancock is toast at some stage in all this.
Definitely. My only worry is that he’s just used as the fall guy and everyone else gets away with it. ‘Hancock was the issue and we’ve removed him, so that’s the end of it’
Ultimately Johnson is the PM and the buck stops with him. But we know he’s Teflon.
Definitely. My only worry is that he’s just used as the fall guy and everyone else gets away with it. ‘Hancock was the issue and we’ve removed him, so that’s the end of it’
Ultimately Johnson is the PM and the buck stops with him. But we know he’s Teflon.
He’s 100% throwing Hancock under the bus.
Heneghan and Gupta getting some of the blame as well
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