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CCFCSteve

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
They have been, but the principle behind them is the same during low or high transmission periods ie if nobody there actually has the virus there is no risk. The LFTs do already have QR codes on them too. My query was also to do with smaller organised gatherings, perhaps up to 100 people for the benefit of sectors that desperately need the income.
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Yeah, the LTFs have QR codes but you input the result manually (so people could lie). There should be a photo option so people prove it’s a negative test, if requested

Agree about pilot tests for various other social settings (bars, restaurants etc operating normally rather than tables), it’s the only way we can find out where transmission is greatest. Submit a request to Hancock for wedding to be one mate😉
 
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SBT

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
They have been, but the principle behind them is the same during low or high transmission periods ie if nobody there actually has the virus there is no risk.
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In principle, sure, the lateral flow tests prevent anyone with COVID from attending. What happens in practice?

Cases have almost trebled since the Liverpool warehouse rave on April 30 - you'd have to put a lot more faith in the lateral flow tests to assume that no-one inside would have COVID now.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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CCFCSteve said:
Yeah, the LTFs have QR codes but you input the result manually (so people could lie). There should be a photo option so people prove it’s a negative test, if requested

Agree about pilot tests for various other social settings (bars, restaurants etc operating normally rather than tables), it’s the only way we can find out where transmission is greatest. Submit a request to Hancock for wedding to be one mate😉
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We were quite luckily able to shift all of it across to the following weekend and in a room that can hold everyone even if Boris delays it again. All our suppliers were still available so we have been very fortunate. That said I know many many more who cancelled or postponed to next year because of the refusal to consider accepting fully vaccinated and negatively tested guests.

The relaxation actually meant we would have been allowed even fewer on our intended date!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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SBT said:
In principle, sure, the lateral flow tests prevent anyone with COVID from attending. What happens in practice?

Cases have almost trebled since the Liverpool warehouse rave on April 30 - you'd have to put a lot more faith in the lateral flow tests to assume that no-one inside would have COVID now.
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The number traced to the rave was very low I thought?
 
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CCFCSteve

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
The number traced to the rave was very low I thought?
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Yeah, it was, think he’s saying similar to me, there were really low rates at the time of the event, add to that the requirement to have a negative test before entering and you’d expect minimal cases attached to event. Would be different if it happened now (I’d like to know by how much though, that’s why we need pilots to continue)
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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CCFCSteve said:
Yeah, it was, think he’s saying similar to me, there were really low rates at the time of the event, add to that the requirement to have a negative test before entering and you’d expect minimal cases attached to event. Would be different if it happened now (I’d like to know by how much though, that’s why we need pilots to continue)
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My argument is really that restaurants and weddings are on nothing like the scale of a rave and it could have been done especially in the latter case. Take a test at the venue or provide evidence of vaccination and job done.

My biggest COVID bugbear is nothing actually to do this but the continuing obsession with sanitising all surfaces and spraying disinfectant everywhere when we know very clearly surface transmission isn’t a thing. More evidence driven precautions please
 
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CCFCSteve

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fernandopartridge said:
Mentioned here previously about Cov being a long way behind vaccine wise due to its relatively youthful population

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Yeah, Birmingham’s well behind also. It’s a combination of age and ethnicity I think. Regions have been able accelerate down the age ranges quicker depending on demographic (mentioned before my ex is only 40 and had second dose two weeks ago, a mate in late 30s had been double jabbed even earlier) , however, I’d imagine even though younger age groups have proved keen to get vaccinated, percentage wise it will still be lower than the oldies

We then have the perfect storm with the Indian variant ie being more prevalent in multi cultural towns and cities (people returning from India in densely populated areas, multi generational houses) and these areas also being where vaccine take up is sometimes/usually lower (due to age/demographic) so spread isn’t slowed.
 
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SBT

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
My argument is really that restaurants and weddings are on nothing like the scale of a rave and it could have been done especially in the latter case. Take a test at the venue or provide evidence of vaccination and job done.

My biggest COVID bugbear is nothing actually to do this but the continuing obsession with sanitising all surfaces and spraying disinfectant everywhere when we know very clearly surface transmission isn’t a thing. More evidence driven precautions please
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Weddings, you say? 🧐

Vaccination-wise, I'm totally with you. If it's been two weeks since your second jab, you should be able to go wild - just a shame we don't have a proper way of certifying that yet, otherwise it becomes a free-for-all.

The testing stuff I'm a little more dubious - whether it's Supreme Court nomination parties at the White House, or Rotherham's training facility, there are plenty of events where testing has been mandatory and they've still turned into super-spreader events. Like I said, if you put too much faith in the tests, you can end up getting burned, and I don't know how much we want to be risking that at this precise moment.

And the sanitising stuff drives me nuts! How are we still doing this one year on?!
 
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wingy

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SBT said:
Weddings, you say? 🧐

Vaccination-wise, I'm totally with you. If it's been two weeks since your second jab, you should be able to go wild - just a shame we don't have a proper way of certifying that yet, otherwise it becomes a free-for-all.

The testing stuff I'm a little more dubious - whether it's Supreme Court nomination parties at the White House, or Rotherham's training facility, there are plenty of events where testing has been mandatory and they've still turned into super-spreader events. Like I said, if you put too much faith in the tests, you can end up getting burned, and I don't know how much we want to be risking that at this precise moment.

And the sanitising stuff drives me nuts! How are we still doing this one year on?!
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Be interesting to know if sanitation has cut other possible infections?
 
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Italy to bring in 5-day quarantine for all UK travellers. That will disrupt fans’ travel for the potential QF in Rome. Don’t think there’s even 5 days between the R16 and the QF.
 
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jordan210

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fernandopartridge said:
EC basically failed in their attempt to try and retrospectively enforce primacy of their contract with Astra Zeneca over any others

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The spin from the EU is crazy. They are trying to make out that they won and will get 10 euros pre dose not delivered.

Without mentioning that the judge said AZ should provide 80m by sep. They have all ready delivered 70,


 
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There is defiantly a push. All my children have booked in and all second jabs are also well within the 12 weeks. All are in their 20’s and one only just 20 whose second booking is only 6 weeks after the first
 
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Grendel said:
There is defiantly a push. All my children have booked in and all second jabs are also well within the 12 weeks. All are in their 20’s and one only just 20 whose second booking is only 6 weeks after the first
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They text me Thursday saying I can book in and I was in at Wheelwright lane at 2 the same day. Arm was killing me yesterday struggled to lift my pint
 
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Sick Boy said:
Most countries are using Pfizer and Moderna now and things are picking up very quickly.
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I know AZ are now a much smaller part of the EUs plan.


I was just adding that to record as the actual judgement was not the victory the AZ statement said it was.
 
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