How many masks did you have?
Agreed, deaths and hospital Covid inpatients is what they’ll be keeping a close eye on in coming weeks.
Go on then, what is this protest about?
Vaccine passports apparently.
Or immunisation records as we’ve called them since the dawn of international travel.
tbf, they'd get a broad coalition of support for the last demand, if for differing reasonsWhy don’t they say that, from what I’ve seen they’re just kicking off with police and demanding that Boris Johnson be incarcerated
Why don’t they say that, from what I’ve seen they’re just kicking off with police and demanding that Boris Johnson be incarcerated
Indeed. Cases alone is not a surprise & not the major issue.
Hospitalisations were looking concerning even before "Freedom Day" though...
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One would have thought that a reasonable way to limit deaths and hospitalisations would be to limit infections?
Or to develop and roll out a vaccine that reduces the likelihood of serious illness…
One would have thought that a reasonable way to limit deaths and hospitalisations would be to limit infections?
But we’re already doing that, we’re told we’re the best in the world, yet hospitalisations keep spiralling?
I think there are two schools of thought on this but I could be wrong.
1.) Get the wave over now in Summer instead of Autumn/Winter.
2.) Herd immunity etc.
Does opening up the country once folks have been vaccinated or about to be lead to enough of a lessening of the link between covid and hospitalisations?
We're definitely going to find out.
I think there are two schools of thought on this but I could be wrong.
1.) Get the wave over now in Summer instead of Autumn/Winter.
2.) Herd immunity etc.
Does opening up the country once folks have been vaccinated or about to be lead to enough of a lessening of the link between covid and hospitalisations?
We're definitely going to find out.
Not amongst the vaccinatedBut we’re already doing that, we’re told we’re the best in the world, yet hospitalisations keep spiralling?
Still don’t get how you get to herd immunity with a virus that you can catch more than once. May be missing something obvious.
I don't know enough which way it works - if easier infection means a virus doubles down on its killer potential, or if it works harder and becomes more deadly if it finds itself constrained (and attendantly the other way too, because the goal is easily transmissable, not much harm - and that *will* happen at some point)And if you are you’d want more mutations not less wouldnt you?
Still don’t get how you get to herd immunity with a virus that you can catch more than once. May be missing something obvious.
Build up a residual protection, so that eventually said virus is less potent?Still don’t get how you get to herd immunity with a virus that you can catch more than once. May be missing something obvious.
That bit has got me too, I thought it was simple but reading about it yesterday- it isn’t. Apparently it’s technically impossible to get full herd immunity with a virus that mutates like this and which you can catch repeatedly. So it’s not ‘herd immunity’, it’s ‘herd tolerance’ as the effects won’t be as bad. But who knows for sure.
I don't know enough which way it works - if easier infection means a virus doubles down on its killer potential, or if it works harder and becomes more deadly if it finds itself constrained (and attendantly the other way too, because the goal is easily transmissable, not much harm - and that *will* happen at some point)
Frankly, it's too hot for me to concentrate enough to read up and find out, as well
Build up a residual protection, so that eventually said virus is less potent?
First principles would suggest a virus needs to keep its hosts alive longer to spread more. But this one is already pretty contagious before it kills people so who knows.
So basically a similar situation to flu .. we know it's going to kill people and you can catch it more than once , but we vaccine the vulnerable and hope for the best , it still takes the lives of 10s of thousands every year ..with a vaccine
The thing I read said it’s not like flu, but it never explained why, or I didn’t understand it- it’s all a bit much when the experts get talking. But I agree with you I think
Pedant alertMy other half’s dad is now allowed to walk her down the aisle without a mask and even to have a dance indoors too. I count that as a win
Pedant alert
The father of the bride walks her up the aisle. It's your job to walk her down the aisle!!
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Just ordered a bev at the bar in the city arms. No masks. Sick of it already. Waited 5 minutes.
I had absolutely no idea at all that your freedom day story would involve alcohol .
Totally shocked
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